Griffin, The more this gets fleshed out on list - the more it departs from any vestige of email and then you're basically talking about shoe-horning a different architectural beast into a transport protocol we happen to know. (I'm not saying ~you~ are planning that - just making an observation of nuanced list evolution.)
You're going to end up in a place that it might be more tenable to pursue building out better transport options for a RetroShare or Kolab environment. Usability for new users is going to take a massive hit with any proposal that seems to catch interest above. I therefore I think it may be prudent to consider an encapsulated secure environment (using RetroShare as an example) with a bridge ingress/egress to the outside world services that gets handled like a PGP Universal setup. Using x509 or PGP, not sure we'd care as long as the CA model of today had nothing to do with it - or minimally involved in the external bridging. In a sense what I'm saying is stop even considering "secure email" an option - we need to start having people think about their communications and security models entirely different. And I'm afraid that even attempting to maintain vestiges of the old environment and ~terminology~ actually does more harm than good. This isn't to say abandon security of email - but lets tackle the new-fangled solutions on one leg (leaving behind as much legacy as possible) - and use political means to continue to attack the "Internet of old" problems (e.g. email) on the other leg. That made total sense in my head. *grimace* Cheers, -Ali -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Persistent violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
