Hi Bill,Just keep in mind that there hasn't been a single citation of any reliable research or human rights reports about deniability in this thread. So if you are looking for advice specifically on whether the system should even include deniability, you're basically working off an opinion of a researcher based on accounts she heard but cannot repeat to you. Best,Jonathan
On Monday, October 6, 2014 12:56 PM, Eleanor Saitta <e...@dymaxion.org> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2014.10.06 01.56, Bill Cox wrote: > I will have an impact on the code going forward. Also, I am > entirely a pragmatist. I am an engineer, not a cryptographer, and > I build stuff that works in the real world. Can you explain a > deniable crypto-system that fits the real world? It's unclear that there is one. I'd feel far happier recommending a (new, continued development, audited, etc.) version of Truecrypt with no deniability features at all. Using the features in such a way that you don't leave traces of the container has always been really, really difficult -- if you read the docs page on what's required to evade forensic detection, it should be pretty clear how unsuitable this feature is for regular users. Yes, some of those might be removable with significant developer effort, but I'm not sure why that's worth it, given the larger issues. > I think we who are trying to keep TrueCrypt alive could use your > advice. Happy to chat more. E. - -- Ideas are my favorite toys. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF4EAREIAAYFAlQyydsACgkQQwkE2RkM0wpV/QD/R+Iu4JCX/sp9/gOA+XF7oyts p29Jw9tl3mT7Jbq2VvEBAJjUR+HB0Qmgfs/gFuHdhx1sJWdHa/qGpAg6xIU2Ouvl =jcFs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
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