Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:13:06 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Cryptic Message at Boot - W2K
Matt Hanson wrote: > > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:38:05 -0800 (PST) > From: Matt Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Cryptic Message at Boot - W2K > > --- Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes. I had SP4 applied to an already existing (Dutch) W2K-SP3, but due > > to problems with its NT-VDM I had to reinstall W2K; so I reinstalled it > > with SP4 slipstreamed into it. > > So back to the question of W2K shut down time with SP4 loaded. I'm > guessing that your slipstreamed copy still takes that 60-70 seconds to shut > down... yes? That, unlike my copy of W2K w/SP3 that shut down for me "out > of the box" for me in about 15 seconds. Correct, the slipstreamed full W2K one takes about 1 - 1.5 minutes. A slipstreamed but then IE-stripped W2K takes a mere 15-20 seconds, although that time has increased a bit with a new virus scanner version (AVG Free). > > I think the main problem is that Win2K (& NT, XP, ...) upon shutdown > > checks and/or rewrites large parts of the registry to disk. So the > > challenge is to keep the registry small (saves boot-up time too). > > Initially the registry is some 10 MB or so, but soon it'll grow and > > grow. I got a message once that the (still default) maximum registry > > size (18 MB IIRC) was too small and I had to increase it. I suspect over > > time a lot of junk is collected inside, so a reg clean-up program may > > help out a lot. Never tried it though. > > I just had to restore a "pre-Windows Update" image of my W2K installation > last week. The 1st thing I noticed was that it shut down in a flash. > Without adding any further software, I went online and ran Windows Update. > As soon as the system rebooted, I shut the system down to check to see if > it was the updates that were slowing the process down. And indeed, it took > that 60-70 seconds again. So if it's a registry problem, it's one that the > WUs are causing, not software. Tho' I wonder if it's something more to do > with what Windows is >doing< at shut down more than it has to do with > processing the registry. Though maybe an update caused W2K to do more > in-depth registry analysis... but I'm just guessing. Apart from the registry, Win2K has to wait for HW and might also check all kinds of network settings etc, whether existant or not. After all, it has been designed as a client OS (in a network) rather than for stand-alone home use (hence "Professional"). W/o NIC inserted it shuts down a lot faster than when attached to the network (same goes for booting). > But I >did< stumble upon what would seem to be a useful piece of software > while troubleshooting a firewall problem the other day. Here's a slick > looking utility called "Error Nuker" that clears registry of orphaned > entries, potentially speeding up your system: > > http://www.error-nuker.com > > http://www.download.com/Error-Nuker/3000-2094_4-10348363.html Yes there are many many many more. Registry Cleaner, etc come to mind. It might also help to fix the size of the page file and defragment that using pagedefrag, a free tool from www.sysinternals.com. Making it fixed size will help keeping it defragged. If you dare, you can defrag Win2000 system files while being booted into W98 - that's the way I did it (temporarily changing system attributes of these files etc) > Re: SP4: > > > Well it may not speed up but it will fix a lot of security leaks and > > holes. And as I said a couple of postings ago, it does increase > > stability, especially with legacy (16 bit) programs. > > I'd think running Windows Update would address all of those security > issues. Tho' I aven't run any legacy programs to my knowledge. But I'm > still not clear (bad memory?) what SP4 may install that Windows Update > doesn't... if anything. No info on Microsoft's site? (technet, etc?) P. > Matt > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
