Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:38:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cryptic Message at Boot - W2K


--- Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes. I had SP4 applied to an already existing (Dutch) W2K-SP3, but due
> to problems with its NT-VDM I had to reinstall W2K; so I reinstalled it
> with SP4 slipstreamed into it.

So back to the question of W2K shut down time with SP4 loaded.  I'm
guessing that your slipstreamed copy still takes that 60-70 seconds to shut
down... yes?  That, unlike my copy of W2K w/SP3 that shut down for me "out
of the box" for me in about 15 seconds.

> I think the main problem is that Win2K (& NT, XP, ...) upon shutdown
> checks and/or rewrites large parts of the registry to disk. So the
> challenge is to keep the registry small (saves boot-up time too).
> Initially the registry is some 10 MB or so, but soon it'll grow and
> grow. I got a message once that the (still default) maximum registry
> size (18 MB IIRC) was too small and I had to increase it. I suspect over
> time a lot of junk is collected inside, so a reg clean-up program may
> help out a lot. Never tried it though.

I just had to restore a "pre-Windows Update" image of my W2K installation
last week.  The 1st thing I noticed was that it shut down in a flash. 
Without adding any further software, I went online and ran Windows Update. 
As soon as the system rebooted, I shut the system down to check to see if
it was the updates that were slowing the process down.  And indeed, it took
that 60-70 seconds again.  So if it's a registry problem, it's one that the
WUs are causing, not software.  Tho' I wonder if it's something more to do
with what Windows is >doing< at shut down more than it has to do with
processing the registry.  Though maybe an update caused W2K to do more
in-depth registry analysis... but I'm just guessing.

But I >did< stumble upon what would seem to be a useful piece of software
while troubleshooting a firewall problem the other day.  Here's a slick
looking utility called "Error Nuker" that clears registry of orphaned
entries, potentially speeding up your system:

http://www.error-nuker.com

http://www.download.com/Error-Nuker/3000-2094_4-10348363.html

Re: SP4:

> Well it may not speed up but it will fix a lot of security leaks and
> holes. And as I said a couple of postings ago, it does increase
> stability, especially with legacy (16 bit) programs.

I'd think running Windows Update would address all of those security
issues.  Tho' I aven't run any legacy programs to my knowledge.  But I'm
still not clear (bad memory?) what SP4 may install that Windows Update
doesn't... if anything.

Matt



                
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