I've been having a think about this, and are we overlooking something stupid
here?.... Perhaps OSGi could yield a good solution?

Thoughts?

Cheers, Tim

On 28/07/2009 20:04, "glenn" <gl...@exmbly.com> wrote:

> 
> Tim,
> 
> My last post may be dismissed as adding more complication than simply
> editing Boot.scala. But keep in mind that a consistent, uniform and
> robust
> procedure for modularization across the Lift universe is to be favored
> over the
> ad-hoc approach, as exists now. In my view, opening a project and
> editing
> source files should always be a last-resort option.
> 
> Glenn...
> 
> On Jul 28, 9:36 am, Timothy Perrett <timo...@getintheloop.eu> wrote:
>> Glenn,
>> 
>> You have my full attention - this is something I've been sitting on for
>> quite some time but just not quite sure what the best route forward is.
>> 
>> When im creating these modules, I essentially just build a normal jar
>> project with maven, and as you say, if I have JS or whatever that I need to
>> use I just specify that with ResourceServer (in the module JAR init).
>> 
>> To date I've not actually needed to pull a template from another JAR, but
>> looking at ResourceServer.findResourceInClasspath I think it could do it...
>> If memory serves DPP checked in a change to make this work about 2 weeks
>> ago...
>> 
>> In terms of having a defined loading pattern, its possible, but would need
>> outlining with some very specific details... IMO, adding one line of code to
>> Boot.scala is not a big deal so we would really need a good reason to add a
>> bunch of reflection which can sometime feel like voodoo because its not
>> clear what its loading and why (one of the reasons I went off ruby).
>> 
>> Cheers, tim
>> 
>> On 28/07/2009 17:00, "glenn" <gl...@exmbly.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi, Tim,
>> 
>>> So, what you do is put all new LiftRules, Schemifier and
>>> ResourceServer stuff
>>> in an init function and run it after the Boot.scala defaults. Sounds
>>> simple enough.
>> 
>>> When creating your modules, do you just strip out all the stock webapp
>>> files (those
>>> that come with the maven lift archetypes), and put all your new
>>> resources in a
>>> "toserve" directory, then just jar it up?
>> 
>>> And what about any new template files? Where do those go in you module
>>> jars?
>>> You can't put them in the "toserver" directory. My understanding is
>>> that that would
>>> install them in the WEB-INF/classes directory of your final war file,
>>> when they
>>> need to go into the root webapp.
>> 
>>> I still see loose ends here.
>> 
>>> Also, what if you didn't have to modify Bool.scala for every
>>> module you add. Some hook function in an object that Boot.scala runs
>>> each time that
>>> would iterate through all your init functions that followed a pre-
>>> defined
>>> signature, would be a nice feature to add to Lift.
>> 
>>> Glenn...
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 4:01 pm, Timothy Perrett <timo...@getintheloop.eu> wrote:
>>>> Hi Glen...
>> 
>>>> I actually do a lot of this - we have a product at work and i've just
>>>> written a bunch of abstractions for work which just require me to do:
>> 
>>>> MyLib.init
>> 
>>>> In the boot file of a new application and then everything wires up - I
>>>> couldn't think of anything more straightforward?
>> 
>>>> The vast majority of stuff in lift is done with PF's, so you can
>>>> pretty much just write them in external jars, and import them - my 3rd
>>>> part stuff usually has a lift-webkit dependency so that I can just do
>>>> the LiftRules.disptach.append stuff directly in the init method, but
>>>> its really no biggy and saves boilerplate.
>> 
>>>> So given your example, this scheme should work right?
>> 
>>>> Cheers, Tim
>> 
>>>> On Jul 27, 11:52 pm, glenn <gl...@exmbly.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> I'm interested in abstracting out useful features from my Lift
>>>>> applications for ease of reuse, but I haven't found an easy way to do
>>>>> it. I find myself creating a new Lift aplication for each feature,
>>>>> with all the baggage (bootstrapping, etc.), and I then have to do a
>>>>> lot of code modification to the application I'm adding the feature to
>>>>> in order to get it to work.
>> 
>>>>> For example, suppose I want to add role-based user login to an
>>>>> application that already has a User model just by dropping in a jar
>>>>> file with the new feature. I don't see how to do it without some
>>>>> boostrapping modifications.
>> 
>>>>> Has anyone really tried to modularize their Lift development. I'd be
>>>>> very interested in some suggestions.
> > 
> 



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