On 28 September 2012 15:12, Phil Holmes <em...@philholmes.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janek Warchoł"
> <janek.lilyp...@gmail.com>
> To: "Phil Holmes" <m...@philholmes.net>
> Cc: <philehol...@googlemail.com>; <lemzw...@googlemail.com>;
> <gra...@percival-music.ca>; <d...@gnu.org>; <lilypond-devel@gnu.org>;
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> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Adds tick mark to scripts (issue 6568055)
>
>
>
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is clear, but I've had a think about this and I don't agree. The
>>> natural reference point of the tick is its bottom, not the middle of the
>>> tick, which is a somewhat arbitrary point based on the aesthetics of the
>>> line widths chosen - if you're going to place the glyph, you'd always do
>>> it
>>> with reference to its lowest extent. So I'm happy to change the
>>> horizontal,
>>> but don't propose to change the vertical spacing, except to get rid of
>>> the
>>> blank space.
>>
>>
>> Ah, but if you do what i propose, you enable the user to choose easily
>> how he wants to align the mark. He can either align it to the bottom
>> edge, or to the "optical center". If you keep the "vertical
>> situation" as is, the user will be able to easily align to the bottom
>> only.
>>
>> What i suggest is similar to what we have in breve notehead case, only
>> in different axis: we have the ability to align breve note both to its
>> very left edge, and its reference point (which is on the left edge of
>> the oval, i.e. without the lines):
>>
>> { c''_\markup { \musicglyph #"noteheads.sM1double" } }
>>
>> { \override TextScript #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
>> c''_\markup { \musicglyph #"noteheads.sM1double" } }
>>
>> Does this convince you?
>>
>> cheers,
>> Janek
>
>
> No - sorry. I can't envisage any situation where anyone would want to align
> to the inside bend of a tick mark.
But that's beside the point though right? :)
I mean I couldn't ever envisage half the stuff that others seem to
require before I joined the LilyPond dev lists.
I guess the point here is if you have 2 points of reference it makes
it more flexible to align than just 1 and then you have manually tweak
it.
for example if you had a square box and you wanted the tick inside it
in 'naturally; (I'm using a silly example here) that you'd not want to
align the bottom of the tick but the place where Werner was talking
(i.e. the pit of the tick).
james
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