Urs, The link provided is nothing like the Chopin Etude #23, Op. 25 No 11 in my Paderewski edition. Hofstadter in his book "Goedel, Escher, Bach: The Golden Braid" offers a mathematical/contrapuntal analysis.
Mark -----Original Message----- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr....@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Urs Liska Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 12:13 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org; foxfanfare <foxfanf...@gmx.com> Subject: Re: First steps in Lilypond Am 9. April 2018 20:24:30 MESZ schrieb foxfanfare <foxfanf...@gmx.com>: >Hi everybody, and thank you for your several replies. > >I'll try to answer to all and maybe explain a bit better what I think >is an issue and the code to demonstrate it: > >\version "2.19.80" > >\relative c, { > > \voiceOne > \clef bass > \time 3/8 > \key c\minor > %THIS IS THE PROBLEM > \scaleDurations 2/3 { c16( f' aes \clef treble f'[ d f~] } <f d'>8) > %ANOTHER EXEMPLE c'8( d' e,\noBeam) %NORMAL c8( d e\noBeam) \bar > "||" > > %%%% > > %THE END OF THE SLUR SHOULD BE ALIGNED WITH THE STEM > > \shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (-0.5 . 0)) Slur \clef bass >\scaleDurations 2/3 { c,,,16( f' aes \clef treble f'[ d f~] } <f d'>8) > \shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (-0.5 . 0)) Slur > c8( d' e,\noBeam) > c8( d e\noBeam) >} > >I used the \scaleDurations command instead which was a good idea! > >Well, as you see, by default, in the first 2 measures of my exemple, >lilypond place the end of the slurs very strangely : after the last >note! >And I don't understand why it doesn't align itself with the top of the >last stem! > >Sure I could use the \shape control, as shown in the measures 4 & 5 >\shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (-0.5 . 0)) Slur > >...and this solve my issue > >BUT in my initial question, I was wondering if I missed something, like >a basic option that would need to be set first and won't need me to >adjust every slurs which could encounter this issue! > >I tried Urs solution, to play with the default shape. So I added to the >code: > > \override Score.Slur.details = #'( > (region-size . 4) > (head-encompass-penalty . 1000.0) > (stem-encompass-penalty . 30.0) > (edge-attraction-factor . 4) > (same-slope-penalty . 20) > (steeper-slope-factor . 50) > (non-horizontal-penalty . 15) > (max-slope . 1.1) > (max-slope-factor . 10) > (free-head-distance . 0.3) > (free-slur-distance . 0.8) > (gap-to-staffline-inside . 0.2) > (gap-to-staffline-outside . 0.1) > (extra-object-collision-penalty . 50) > (accidental-collision . 3) > (extra-encompass-free-distance . 0.3) > (extra-encompass-collision-distance . 0.8) > (head-slur-distance-max-ratio . 3) > (head-slur-distance-factor . 10) > (absolute-closeness-measure . 0.3) > (edge-slope-exponent . 1.7) > (close-to-edge-length . 2.5) > (encompass-object-range-overshoot . 0.5) > (slur-tie-extrema-min-distance . 0.2) > (slur-tie-extrema-min-distance-penalty . 2)) > >... and I tried to play with all the values (without understand every >variables) but without succes. >So, is it normal Lilypond is drawing slurs beyond the last note and we >cannot change this default behavior?! > >But after reading this post ><http://lilypondblog.org/2014/01/engraving-statistics-slurs-and-ties/> > >wrote by Janek WarchoĊ, I start to think maybe it is usual to adjust >them manually! :-) > > >Mark wrote >> FoxFanFare, >> >> I set Chopin's Nocturne No. 12. >> Lilypond allowed me to arrange beams, fingerings, and dynamics to >suit my >> reading. > >Would it be possible to see the results and maybe the code? I would >also be very interesting if someone wrote a complex piano music, with >multiple voices like Godowsky... https://github.com/engraving-challenges/winterwind/blob/master/LilyPond-devel/nathan-ho/first-draft.pdf This is essentially untweaked, and the source is in the same directory. > >I know the site Mutopia and I read some exemples (like the Rachmaninoff >preludes). But I have to confess that I was not impressed by the output >of most of the scores... In comparison to a professional publisher I >mean... >Hope I'm not insulting anyone here who sent scores to this website... > > > > >-- >Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html > >_______________________________________________ >lilypond-user mailing list >lilypond-user@gnu.org >https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user