My situation is I need to transcribe a crescendo starting without a dynamic
marking. If I put in a \mf then I don't get warning. If I can hide the
dynamic mark, all will be fine. Is there a \hide syntax that will work?
Knute Snortum
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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Conor Cook <conor.p.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is my impression that a decrescendo starts where you are and gets
> quieter. Does Lilypond not have a default (e.g. mf) MIDI dynamic like
> Sibelius?
>
> Best,
> Conor Cook
>
> On May 16, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Simon Albrecht <simon.albre...@mail.de>
> wrote:
>
> I recently encountered this problem in a composition of my own and just
> ignored the warning, because the MIDI dynamics rendition did not have any
> importance for me.
> As a matter of fact, this notation may seem illogical, but there are many
> occurences of it, and many have asked what it means. I find it pretty
> straightforward, once you have an idea of its use: With a decrescendo, its
> meaning is similar to an accent, only perhaps more gentle and espressivo;
> that is to say, start a little above the dynamic you previously had and
> return to it by means of a diminuendo. With a crescendo, there is some
> ambiguity: either you return to the dynamic value from before the
> crescendo, or you stay where you arrived through the crescendo. Other
> interpretations may be possible, but I don’t think unambiguity needs to be
> avoided, since it’s a question of style also: in the 18th century and
> beginning 19th, dynamics are specified with increasing exactness, but for a
> long time remain incomprehensive and from later perspective leave gaps,
> which the performer is required to fill himself. And it would be inadequate
> to eliminate these seeming inconsequencies, which are typical. As I said, I
> was very happy to have this in a composition of my own (which was actually
> kept in some early 19th century style) and it expressed exactly what I
> meant. So don’t be over-correct :-)
>
> Simon Albrecht
>
> Am 16.05.2014 18:15, schrieb Phil Holmes:
>
> Well, LilyPond has the same problem as a performer would. If you're
> crescendoing, at what dynamic are you starting from?
>
> --
> Phil Holmes
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Knute Snortum <ksnor...@gmail.com>
> *To:* lilypond-user@gnu.org
> *Sent:* Friday, May 16, 2014 3:21 PM
> *Subject:* MIDI dynamics parsing error
>
> Short Description: I get an error from LilyPond that it can't figure out
> the MIDI volume to start a crescendo with in some situations.
>
> Details: The error message is...
>
> (De)crescendo with unspecified starting volume in MIDI.
> { bf4 %{ \mf %}
> \< a16 ( \sf gf' f ef ) bf4 %{ \mf %} \< a16 ( \sf
> gf' f ef ) }
>
> programming error: Impossible or ambiguous (de)crescendo in MIDI.
> continuing, cross fingers
>
>
> The source code is...
>
> \version "2.18.2"
> \language "english"
>
> upper = \relative c'''' {
> | gf16-. \f ef-. df-. cf-. bf ( \sf df cf af )
> gf-. \sf ef-. df-. cf-. bf ( \sf df cf af )
> |
> <<
> { bf4 %{ \mf %} \< a16 ( \sf gf' f ef ) bf4 %{ \mf %} \< a16 ( \sf gf'
> f ef ) }
> \\
> { <af, f>16 q q q a4 <af f>16 q q q a4 }
> >>
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff = "up" {
> \clef treble
> \upper
> }
> \layout {
> }
> \midi {
> \tempo 4 = 120
> }
> }
>
> If you uncomment the \mf in line nine, the problem goes away. At first
> I thought this was because of the two voices, but when I compile the
> \relative part by itself, that is, no \score section, there is no warning.
>
> I'm assuming this is a bug in LilyPond and adding the \mf dynamic mark
> is a workaround. If not, please show me the correct way to do this.
>
> Since Mussorgsky didn't write the \mf, I want to hide it, but \hide
> Dynamics doesn't seem to work. How would I do this, or is there a better
> way around this problem?
>
> Knute Snortum
> (via Gmail)
>
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