Some baby steps we've taken to cut down on plastic are to buy only organic
milk ā€” not the health reasons but because it seems to be the only kind they
sell in carto rather than plastic bottles ā€” and buying laundry soap and
dishwasher soap that doesn't come in plastic bottles. We use the ones
below, but there are lots of other non-plastic products on the market:

Ecover Automatic Dishwasher Soap Tablets
<https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MFPZJZ4/>
Earth Breeze Laundry Detergent Sheets
<https://smile.amazon.com/Earth-Breeze-Fresh-Laundry-Sheets/dp/B08GF7YGCD/>

Alice

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 2:05 PM Daniela Caride <danielacar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> We avoid packaging (plastic and anything) as much as possible, by buying
> bulk (we get a lot of stuff from local farms and Azure), by making foods at
> home, and by looking for products with less packaging when we can't avoid
> them altogether (milk, as we don't want to have cows). It's not perfect,
> but we were able to stop generating quite a lot of trash and recycles in
> the last couple of years.
>
> Here is what we have made so far: bread, cream cheese, tortillas, mayo,
> tomato sauce, peanut butter, almond butter, pizza crusts, crackers,
> candied nuts, sparkling water. We also mill our grains at home (wheat,
> spelt, corn).
>
> We keep chickens for eggs and bees for honey (which we use instead of
> sugar), and we grow an insane amount of veggies to feed ourselves and the
> chickens, and avoid chicken feed as much as we can.
>
> We recycle almost anything by feeding it to the chickens or the dogs.
> Nowadays, none of our food goes into the trash, especially because we
> compost whatever is left form the chicken and dog system.
>
> Oh, and we use our own bags at the market and we seldom get takeout.
>
> Now, I have to say we are into eating very simple, and I'm not sure many
> people would enjoy what we eat (too bland?). Our lifestyle is probably too
> boring.
>
> Also, this is all very time consuming compared to picking up stuff from a
> shelf at the market, but we find it quite easy and fun, and we get to know
> exactly what we ingest (or close to it).
>
> What we do also requires space (for storing grain, sheltering chickens,
> composting) and time (to clean, prepare, cook, wash, troubleshoot and
> research).
>
> I'm not sure if our lifestyle makes any difference in the grand scheme of
> things. Probably none. But if anyone feels like trying any of those things,
> shoot me an email. :) Also, if you have any tips on any activities of the
> sort, let's talk!
>
> Don't know where all the trash goes nowadays (I did a masters in
> environmental sciences a lifetime ago and I'm sure the techniques have
> improved) but I remember reading about the possibility of shipping trash to
> outer space.
>
> Maybe one day we'll have enough tech to clean up the mess we are making
> here, and even up there.
>
> šŸ¤ž
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:26 PM wayne vetrone <wvetr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A large part of our household buying decisions is based upon packaging.
>> Costco is one of the worst.  Large plastic containers for 6 apples.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Adirah Adanech King <abelan...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Debra's in Concord allows you to bring in your own containers now to buy
>>> from their bulk section.
>>>
>>> Victoria
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 1:13 PM Debra Daugherty <dadaughe...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for telling me about that--I order from Virsa De Punjab too,
>>>> but limit it as much as possible because of the waste. Awesome to know they
>>>> will reuse containers!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 12:50 PM Belinda Gingrich <
>>>> belinda.gingr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I tried bringing my own containers for the first time. I
>>>>> visited Versa de Punjab in Bedford. I called in the order, dropped off the
>>>>> dishes 15 min later. Next time Iā€™l drop off the containers with the order
>>>>> and go shopping at whole foods or stop and shop, we were heading that way
>>>>> anyhow. It worked out well and I even remembered to ask for no little
>>>>> sauces for the first time.
>>>>> A new tradition!
>>>>> Belinda
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 11:59 AM, Alice Waugh <awaugh...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > These are very valid points, but I think there's a much bigger
>>>>> plastics problem with takeout containers. The translucent cylindrical soup
>>>>> containers and the black trays with clear lids are piling up in everyone's
>>>>> kitchen. I understand that black plastic can't be recycled at all, but I'm
>>>>> unclear (no pun intended) about the soup containers. We save all of them
>>>>> for leftovers but we have only so much space in the cabinet. Does anyone
>>>>> know of any place that will take these containers for some other use?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Also, is there any sentiment among environmentalists for pressuring
>>>>> restaurants to go back to the aluminum trays with cardboard lids? I don't
>>>>> think there's a viable non-plastic alternative for liquids but it would be
>>>>> great if we could revert to the old-fashioned containers for the solids.
>>>>> And yes, I know, the real answer is that we should just not do
>>>>> pickup/takeout at all, but especially in the Covid era, I don't think
>>>>> that's realistic for most people.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Alice Waugh
>>>>>
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