I could be wrong about this, but doesn't Fresh Pond have a fence that prevents dogs from actually getting down into the pond or close to the edge? That might be why they can permit dogs off leash at Fresh Pond. Flints Pond has no such fence, nor would we want one.
Leslie Turek On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 11:07 PM Linda McMillan <mcmillanlin...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's good to know that the staff from LLCT and the Conservation Commission > see these discussions. > > I just learned a very important piece of information I would like to pass > along. In talking with a Water Commissioner in Cambridge, I was told that > Cambridge went through a very similar process of determining the best use > of trails. In particular, they wanted to determine if dogs should continue > to be allowed off leash around Fresh Pond. After an exhaustive search of > the published literature on the issue of dog waste and its impact on water > quality, they found no evidence that dog waste had a negative impact on > water quality. Instead, they found it was geese poop that was creating a > problem with water quality. > > In fact, now Fresh Pond is the only place in Cambridge where dogs are > allowed off leash! > > I found this information astounding and respectively recommend that the > Con Com, LLCT and the Water Department look into this more thoroughly as it > relates to the proposed rule that dogs must be leashed at all times on all > trails around Flints Pond. > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 7:38 PM Sara Lupkas <lup...@lincolnconservation.org> > wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> Staff from both LLCT and the Conservation Department see these emails. >> >> Sara Lupkas >> Stewardship Director >> Lincoln Land Conservation Trust >> >> e. lup...@lincolnconservation.org >> p. 781-259-9251 >> c. 610-620-3626 >> >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> They should all go to Con Comm staff for public record >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 5:56 PM, Linda McMillan <mcmillanlin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> I am wondering if the Conservation Commission Director or staff even see >> any of these comments unless you send them directly to them via the email >> on the town's website. Not sure. >> >> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 8:09 AM Colleen Katsuki <coll...@shadowtracks.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Good points Christopher. >>> >>> One thing I think is that we actually need more data.How many bikes are >>> on which trails ? I remember the dogs off leash controversy some years ago >>> and on Mt Misery. Dogs were allowed off leash only on certain trails .But >>> what happens is people say or think:" My dog is well behaved" and they >>> leave the animal off leash, The rules are not well posted nor are they well >>> observed. I think this could be another issue here. >>> >>> Colleen Katsuki >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ubject: >>> Re: [LincolnTalk] Bikes on bike paths where they belong? >>> >>> From: >>> Christopher Eliot <c...@chriseliot.com> <c...@chriseliot.com> >>> >>> Date: >>> 7/7/22, 8:56 AM >>> >>> To: >>> Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >>> I have read many articles about Lincoln trail usage and I am not >>> strongly in favor or against usage by bikes. >>> >>> However, given the controversy, a “go slow” approach to changing >>> regulations seems prudent. Some of the issues are just preferences and will >>> not change over time, but some are fact based and can be researched in time. >>> >>> Overall, it seems like the decision should be made on a case by case >>> basis taking into account the unique characteristics of each trail, >>> including importance for each possible user group and local environmental >>> conditions. >>> I think there are some overall principles that apply to each trail use >>> decision: >>> >>> * Safety of all trail users is a priority. This can mean providing a >>> safe path for bikers to cross busy roads and it can mean doing something so >>> that elderly walkers are not in fear of bikers. >>> >>> * Some trails are probably inherently better for some uses than for >>> other uses. I think there are some terrain features that don’t make good >>> bike trails; these trails should be kept bike free. Paved rail trails seem >>> to work well for mixed uses. >>> >>> * Along some routes bikes can be a practical form of transportation, >>> especially to schools. Replacing automobile traffic with bicycle usage has >>> multiple benefits and should be facilitated where possible. Circular trails >>> are not transportation routes. >>> >>> * Preservation of nature is a priority. Wild places are easily over-used >>> and the total amount of usage matters. Choosing one single use is a >>> possible way to limit total usage of a trail. To be fair, this might mean >>> designating some trails for exclusive use of each type of user. >>> >>> There have been published stories illustrating poor behavior among >>> various types of trail users. The enjoyment of our wonderful shared >>> resources really depends on common courtesy and mutual respect from all. >>> Hopefully there are people who can learn from these stories about little >>> things that make the world better for other people. 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