Good morning, I found this helpful link on the community center's website, https://lincolncommunitycenter.com/2022/11/11/why-would-the-community-center-be-on-the-hartwell-campus/ .
Thanks, Kim ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Kim bodnar <kimberlybod...@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 9:53 AM Subject: Fwd: [LincolnTalk] Community Center To: Kim Bodnar <kimbodnar1...@gmail.com> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: *From:* sally kindleberger <skindleber...@gmail.com> *Date:* November 26, 2022 at 9:42:34 AM EST *To:* kathryn Corbin <corbindes...@brown-corbin.com> *Cc:* LincolnTalk <Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>, Margaret P Flint < margaretpfl...@gmail.com> *Subject:* *Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center* Why was that location turned down originally? On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 9:40 AM kathryn Corbin < corbindes...@brown-corbin.com> wrote: > Ken, et al., > Could not agree more, and said as much the last time the project was > taking on steam. It’s precisely what the town needs as an > inter-generational hub, gathering spot, place for special events be they > exhibits, lectures, films, etc. It’s the only place anyone in town of any > age currently and consistently goes, whether it’s kids after school for a > snack, or to meet a friend for coffee, grab groceries, your dry cleaning or > mail a package. Outdoor gathering space and parking already exist, so for > my money, which like yours, if approved, will be spent, Lincoln Station > makes perfect sense. > Kathryn Corbin > > Sent from my iPhone > Please excuse any typos, > (which I declare are the exclusive fault of auto spell-check!) > > On Nov 26, 2022, at 8:38 AM, Andy Wang <andyrw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > In the discussion above, I'm unclear if folks are advocating for a > community center (both COA and Parks & Rec) or a senior center (and keep > Parks & Rec in the pods) in the spaces around Lincoln Station. But just > some additional food for thought, on the Parks and Rec side, I believe that > it was viewed as important to keep spaces accessible to the school campus. > With the programs for kids, it is convenient for kids to be able to get to > those programs easily. Not all kids are old enough to walk over by > themselves. LEAP also takes several of its kids over to the programs that > parents sign up for and pick them up that may not be right after school. > > - Andy > > > > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 8:15 AM June L Matthews <matth...@mit.edu> wrote: > >> Excellent statement, Ken! I hope that the proposal to change gears and >> consider a community center at Lincoln Station gains some traction. I would >> vote in favor of allocating funds to study this option. After reading the >> many comments and thinking carefully about the issues, I would not vote in >> favor of allocating funds directed only toward the Hartwell proposals. I >> can’t remember, ten years ago, what led to the choice of this location. >> For all the reasons expressed by you and a few others, I believe that this >> choice, although well-intentioned, was misguided. Let’s put the community >> center in the center of our community – accessible by foot or bike by many, >> and for those using their cars, adjacent to other essential services >> (groceries, post office, etc.) >> >> >> >> June Matthews >> >> Greenridge Lane >> >> >> >> *From:* Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hurd >> *Sent:* Friday, November 25, 2022 9:55 PM >> *To:* LincolnTalk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> *Cc:* Margaret P Flint <margaretpfl...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Community Center >> >> >> >> Hello LincolnTalkers, >> >> I wish to applaud all those who have taken the time to revisit and >> question the financial pros and cons of building a community center at this >> time, and thanks particularly to those who have recently commented on the >> advisability of building it at the Hartwell site. >> >> >> >> I fully support building a new facility, but it has long been my opinion >> that such a major investment by the town should be deployed where it is >> most needed - namely in the Lincoln Station area. For more than ten years >> since Town Meeting approved the Comprehensive Long Range Plan, in which the >> revitalization of Lincoln Station was overwhelmingly one of the highest >> priorities, the area has lain dormant and in serious need of a catalyst to >> jumpstart its transformation into the compact, vital, walkable village >> center that was a stated goal at the time. A community center in such a >> location would be the equivalent of an anchor store in a retail setting, >> and by virtue of attracting more people on a regular basis, it would create >> more opportunities for a clustered cross-current of activities spawning >> greater social interaction. >> >> >> >> In my opinion, it would constitute the classic suburban planning error to >> create a new center that stands alone like the suburban mall accessible >> only by car. In addition, because of school protocols, there would be very >> limited inter-generational co-mingling until after school hours, if at >> all. And, even if there weren’t a greater awareness about the effects of >> climate change, wouldn’t it make far more sense to locate a community >> center where there are already other crucial services such as the post >> office, grocery store, cleaners, a cafe and restaurant, etc.? >> >> >> >> If the vote for more funding fails at the Special Town Meeting next >> Wednesday evening, November 30th, I urge residents, the Selects and the >> Planning Board to seriously reconsider Lincoln Station as the location that >> would best serve the interests and greater good of the town going forward. >> >> >> >> Thank you for all those who have weighed in on this discussion. >> >> >> >> Respectfully, >> >> Ken Hurd >> >> >> Lifting the Human Spirit by Design >> 781-259-3300 >> 781-259-8900 cell >> www.keha.com >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.keha.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf45f135f2ce34759ccd408dacfbc7290%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638050705541165016%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=iEDKccEu5RnzS%2BEEPmxrTL3qjmPqcs1K8aGOP%2Fgb%2BnA%3D&reserved=0> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 25, 2022, at 1:02 PM, John F. Carr <voxsciuro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I just skimmed over the 2015 report which is the foundation for what >> we are discussing. >> >> That report tried to steer people away from the Lincoln Station area. >> One of the six options was to build on the commuter rail parking lot >> and include an underground parking garage (the most expensive kind of >> parking) to make up for lost parking. Since then COVID killed >> commuter rail. The parking lot is just another town-owned vacant lot. >> >> When you take the cost of an underground garage out of the picture, >> the commuter rail parking lot becomes the cheapest building site (in >> 2015 dollars, and including the cost of renovating Hartwell facilities >> that don't move). It has the advantage of being near shops, Codman, >> and Lincoln Woods. We might end up with a community center rather >> than a place one drives to and drives home from. >> >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:16 AM Margaret P Flint >> <margaretpfl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> How about this idea for the Community Center: the building at the Mall at >> Lincoln Station now occupied by Something Special and Lincoln Dog Training. >> >> Several things in its favor: >> >> -It is across the street from Ryan Estates Greenridge, and >> adjacent to Lincoln Woods. >> >> -There are two restaurants adjacent which would eliminate the need >> for a food preparation area, a significant cost. >> >> -Also, there is a grocery store right there, which would allow >> users to double up on car trips. >> >> -There is ample parking. >> >> There are two downsides that I can think of. I’m sure there are more. >> >> - Something Special would need to move. But I see a for rent sign >> across the street. Perhaps the cost of moving Something Special could be >> built into the cost of renovating for a Community Center. 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