Dear Lincoln-

I would love to extend an invitation to anybody who would like to come
visit LEAP during the peak hours of operation.  We run during the hours of
2pm-6pm m, t, th, and f, 12pm-6pm on Wednesdays.  On an average day we have
over 100 children and 20 staff in constant motion.  We are over seen by the
Department of Early Education and Care, our program is not only child care
for the 100 families we serve… but we offer enrichment, education, and a
safe and caring space for children to feel “at home” while their families
are at work.
We are a non-profit and we rent yearly from the town .  When you walk into
our building it is covered in beautiful, creative art work, science
projects, games, and laughter that the LEAP children are so proud of and
that our amazing staff spend hours preparing to offer each day.  We house
an abundance of wonderful supplies, games, sporting goods, couches, air
hockey tables, a kitchen that we bake in, etc..throughout the building and
in our supply sheds.
We have been lucky to occupy Pod C since 1985, and have made it the “home
away from home” for so many children.
We utilize the amazing green space that we are able to open our doors and
pour out into, for a great game of soccer, capture the flag, kickball,
imaginative play..and so on.  LEAP is important to this community, we are
not disposable and to think that we could just move into the school is an
absurd idea.
Remember “it takes a village to raise a child” and we are very much a part
of this village!

Please come visit, we would love to show you what LEAP is all about.

Kathryn Hawkins
Director of LEAP
781-259-0615


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On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 10:58 AM Bob Kupperstein <bobk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe that a major issue for LEAP using space within the schools is
> that they have a variety of activities with furniture/supplies/equipment,
> etc. in place for the kids when they arrive.  Sharing space with the
> schools would most likely require extensive setup/tear-down on a daily
> basis (along with storage space), as they wouldn't have their own dedicated
> space.
>
> Based on our kid's experience at LEAP through their school years, it would
> seem like that would be a pretty major limitation on their activities and
> the operations of the program (especially considering that the
> starting/ending times are likely already the most hectic times for the
> staff).
>
> The existing set-up space is *one* of the things that makes LEAP such a
> great program for our kids.
>
> LEAP staff may have other reasons why sharing school space might not be so
> seamless - this is just one that occurred to me as a former LEAP-parent.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 8:17 AM Magruder Donaldson <
> mcdonaldso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There must be a way to accommodate LEAP in the new, spacious school…
>> Craig Donaldson
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 7:03 PM Peter Buchthal <pbucht...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The school is too big by any standard.  We have 550 students with a
>>> declining school population.  The architect and school administration at
>>> the time told us the building was designed for 650 students.  More
>>> recently, the school architects publicly told fellow architects that the
>>> school was designed for 700 students.  9 grades (k-8) each have 4 separate
>>> classrooms.   Only 2 of the 7 grades have enough students for 4
>>> simultaneous classrooms.  Applying the state education sizing guidelines
>>> for a new school, our 165,000 square feet should support over 1000
>>> students.
>>>
>>> It would be helpful to our discussion if people can agree on certain
>>> facts.
>>>
>>> What exactly do people like about Plans A, B or C?   I like none of them
>>> as I believe the premise of intergenerational mingling  as a goal  won't be
>>> accomplished with the limited available hours for senior programming  at
>>> Hartwell because of the parking, traffic and safety concerns.  The new
>>> community center will have senior programming by design only from 9 to 2:30
>>> on M, Tu, Th, Fr and 9 to 12 on Wed.
>>>
>>> The CCBC presents parking as ample with 50 spots nearby without telling
>>> the community that the current users of Hartwell may already be using many
>>> if not most of the 50 nearby spots.  So, we may only have 5 to 10 open
>>> spots at any given time or maybe even fewer if there are events/meetings
>>> going on at the main Hartwell building's multi purpose room, training room
>>> or School business office.
>>>
>>> I am afraid that the CCBC is sticking with a Community Center based in
>>> Hartwell for the wrong reasons.  The town has an obligation to its seniors.
>>> I  just don't want to build a core town building in a location that comes
>>> with so many restrictions/limitations.
>>>
>>> Peter Buchthal
>>> 71 Weston Rd
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:58 AM John Mendelson <
>>> johntmendel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You write as if everyone agrees the school has too much space.  I, for
>>>> one, don't.
>>>>
>>>> In my view, if there are lessons to be learned from the school building
>>>> project, it is wise to examine the reasons why the town voted down the
>>>> project in 2012, thereby rejecting $20.9 million in state funding.  Hubris,
>>>> perhaps well-intentioned but overly wrought disagreements about site and
>>>> design, concerns about cost?  Likely, all of the above.
>>>>
>>>> To my ear, this dialogue sounds very similar, and I cannot help but
>>>> believe that if we kick this down the road, costs are only going to
>>>> increase and the impact of the project diminished.
>>>>
>>>> I trust the work the CCBC has done and will very likely support their
>>>> recommendation.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 7:22 AM Peter Buchthal <pbucht...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> People of course are allowed to have their own opinions, but I don't
>>>>> believe this building project is about accepting our responsibility for
>>>>> taking care of our elders.  As I have mentioned before, my father lived to
>>>>> 97 and was a big user of his local Council on Aging.  You apparently
>>>>> believe that if one does not support the CCBC's decisions, you don't
>>>>> support our Council on Aging and its mission.  This is far from the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many on Lincoln Talk  and others in town simply question the Council
>>>>> on Aging Hartwell generous building space requirements.   Residents simply
>>>>> do not want to build a building that is bigger than our needs like we did
>>>>> with the school. There is also a healthy debate on whether it makes sense
>>>>> to build a COA/Community Center on the Hartwell Campus without sufficient
>>>>> parking and limited hours to protect the pre-school Magic Gardens and
>>>>> school age (5+)  dropoff/Pickup from automobile running child parking lot
>>>>> mishaps.  I am also not aware of any community center anywhere that
>>>>> intentionally colocates a senior center and  daycare using a small shared
>>>>> parking lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many on Lincoln Talk and the town would hate to see the town build a
>>>>> huge building that is underutilized and repeats the lack of parking at
>>>>> Bemis Hall.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a small community with limited resources and the highest per capita
>>>>> debt in the commonwealth, we need to look at large projects with many eyes
>>>>> and many voices.  It is a shame that up to now, the CCBC really hasn't
>>>>> listened to the public's concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> In an effort to lower the cost and save between 3 and 4 million, I
>>>>> have previously asked why Leap can't be relocated into the school where it
>>>>> belongs.  Almost all other school districts have extended day offerings
>>>>> within the school as the hours of a school and after school program
>>>>> dovetail perfectly.  Maybe we should ask our new Superintendent if he 
>>>>> could
>>>>> house Leap within the school?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know where Leap is going to run while the Hartwell Project
>>>>> is under construction?
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Buchthal
>>>>> 71 Weston Rd
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 6:03 PM john gregg via Lincoln <
>>>>> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am so surprised that a community that encourages acceptance and
>>>>>> tolerance would further not doing the right thing like providing a place
>>>>>> for kids, adults and elders should be able to congregate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is about space, about money, about having to be held accountable
>>>>>> for past neglect like providing a school for children. A place where the
>>>>>> kids would be provided safe care at LEAP for parents who work. A place
>>>>>> where adults could allow care for the ones who actually took care of them
>>>>>> if they move back home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the same discussion when deciding about a new school, a bunch
>>>>>> of intellectuals debating why things should not be provided to others 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> was provided to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> John Gregg
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