Well spoken On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 11:03 AM cmontie montie.net <cmon...@montie.net> wrote:
> > > I’ve held back on commenting, but the bus stop at Hanscom has definitely > been on my mind since the HCAWG meeting where there was agreement to expand > options beyond the “C” versions. > > As discussed in this thread, North Lincoln has access on Hanscom Drive to > MBTA Bus #76 that goes to Alewife Station. The commute to Alewife is about > 30 minutes and the cost is $1.70 each way—less than 1/4 the cost of the > Commuter Rail from Lincoln Station to North Station ($8.75 each way!). In > the 25 years I’ve lived in Lincoln, I’ve used the commuter rail less than a > handful of times—but I can’t count the times that we’ve parked at Alewife > to hop on the Red Line to get into Cambridge and Boston. While this is > beyond the scope of the HCAWG, I’d welcome more bus options from Lincoln > to Alewife via the Rt. 2 corridor—and even a commuter lot for it. > > Also, for car-access from North Lincoln to major transportation-arteries > such as 2A, 2 and 95/128, there would be no need to drive through the > center of town. > > The prospect of increased traffic congestion on Lincoln Road is a real > concern if the bulk of the 635 units are concentrated only in the Lincoln > Station area, as Option C rezoning could result in. > > Anyone spending the market rate of $4000/month for a two-bedroom apartment > in Lincoln will have two cars. How else would they get to the doctor, the > dentist, the soccer games, the pharmacy… and all the other places that we > all go? Will people really take the commuter rail to go to the hardware > store in Concord Ctr. (at $2.75 each way)—or will they drive their cars? > And what about going to Verrill Farm or Costco or any number of other > places not close to public transportation? These new Lincoln residents > will drive. > > The “hub and spoke” configuration of our main roads doesn’t give anyone > needing to get to the schools or the Mall/Station along Lincoln Road an > alternative route. Likewise accessing major-arteries like Rt 2 can involve > a trip down Lincoln Rd. for many residents. Combine the added cars with > the need to stop for train crossings (on one end at the station) and a > five-way stop (at the other end in the Old Town Center), and it seems > reasonable to predict that you will have some regular major bottlenecks on > your hands that will also impact residents on Upland Field, Beaver Pond, > Pierce Hill, Macintosh Lane, Todd Pond, Wells Rd, Meadowdam, etc… and > further along “downstream” along Bedford Rd., Trapelo Rd., Sandy Pond Rd., > Weston Rd. Etc. due to line ups at the flowerpot/five corners… It also > seems reasonable to suspect that there also would be more cut-through > traffic on Tower Rd. to avoid backups. > > I realize the variables are complicated, and I thank everyone who is > puzzling over this act and its requirements. Dispersing additional housing > beyond the 20% at Lincoln station seems prudent. > > > > > > Message: 51 > > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 19:12:21 -0400 > > From: Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> > > To: David Cuetos <davidcue...@gmail.com> > > Cc: Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] [HCALinc] Re: 15 units per Acre: Part 4 - > > Alternatives > > Message-ID: > > <ca+zammf8m6-jxkokynoublrdjwteg_x9_a8se1y9ekcfevu...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Definitely needs to be looked into further with the state. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Scott Clary > > 617-968-5769 > > > > Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors > > > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 6:20 PM David Cuetos <davidcue...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> There are strong reasons why the Hanscom bus station should be > considered > >> a valid transit station: > >> > >> 1) The EOHLC cannot go too far astray from the letter of the Act. As it > >> has been shown in previous emails, the Act just states ?Bus station? as > a > >> valid transit station. The EOHLC must know that trying to exclude > certain > >> bus stations could lead to successful challenges from towns affected, > and > >> should therefore act with restraint. > >> > >> 2) Even if we assume that the ?high capacity? qualifier is valid, we can > >> argue the Hanscom bus stop fits the bill as a bimodal line (connected to > >> the T red line), with service every ~40 minutes during morning and > >> afternoon peak times, in-line or more than our commuter rail during > those > >> critical periods. > >> > >> 3) The guidelines do not state that only Silver Line stations will be > >> considered as valid transit stations. We should request the State to > >> consider the Hanscom station as a valid transit station as it meets the > >> criteria for sheltering and high-capacity. > >> > >>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:15?PM Robert Ahlert <robahl...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> Bus stations are defined in the guidelines but I think you are right, > it > >>> doesn?t apply to us. Our bus stop meets some of the criteria, but not > all > >>> of them to be considered. It could still be checked with the state > just to > >>> get a final ruling. > >>> So I?ll have to revise these options again, but still, we have many > more > >>> alternatives than folks are thinking of which don?t place everything in > >>> South Lincoln. > >>> Keep the debate going! > >>> Rob > >>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:08?PM Don Seltzer <timon...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> Commuter Rail Station is the only one that applies to Lincoln. > >>>> Bus Station is very narrowly defined as certain high volume Silverline > >>>> stations. > >>>> Bus stops are mentioned nowhere in the law or guidelines. > >>>> Don Seltzer > >>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:35 PM Robert Ahlert <robahl...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> These are just ideas, any permutation and combination could be > >>>>> considered. Personally, I think the Village center should be > redeveloped, > >>>>> but not everyone agrees. > >>>>> The regulation does not require the 20% to be near the commuter rail, > >>>>> it can be any mass transit. At least that is my understanding, > correct me > >>>>> if I?m wrong? > >>>>> Rob > >>>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:30?PM John Mendelson < > >>>>> johntmendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> Am I reading this correctly in that only one of the new proposals > >>>>>> (E11) includes the "Village Center" land owned by the RLF? > >>>>>> Also, can you clarify how E1, E2, E7, E8, E9, and E10 meet the "20% > >>>>>> within .5 mile of transit station" criteria? > >>>>>> Finally, how do you arrive at the total Option C max units number of > >>>>>> 1,347. > >>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>> John > >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:04?PM Robert Ahlert <robahl...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi all - > >>>>>>> We put together a list of alternatives that comply with the HCA but > >>>>>>> just do so in a way to attempt address the concerns I raised in my > previous > >>>>>>> email. There are many combinations and permutations of parcels > around > >>>>>>> town that would allow us to fully comply with the requirements, > each with > >>>>>>> their own pros and cons which should be debated. > >>>>>>> This is a very difficult regulation to try to respond to so I > >>>>>>> sympathize with the Working Group, they are trying to hit a moving > target. > >>>>>>> But let's slow down and not get to March town vote and then have > an up/down > >>>>>>> vote on a bad solution (e.g. Option C). Hopefully D1 and D2 are > good > >>>>>>> solutions however we have created E1 to E11 just in case. Please > attend > >>>>>>> Tuesday Planning board meeting to see what Options D1 and D2 look > like. > >>>>>>> Here is our list, happy to send as Excel if folks are interested. > >>>>>>> [image: image.png] > >>>>>>> I have sent this list to the HCA Working Group and hopefully at > some > >>>>>>> time in the near future we'll get the chance to review these ideas > with > >>>>>>> them. > >>>>>>> If you have similar concerns, please voice them in whatever way you > >>>>>>> are comfortable. If you would like more info on the HCA or > Alternative > >>>>>>> solutions, please let us know by emailing > >>>>>>> i...@lincolnresidentsforhousingalternatives.org > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Rob Ahlert > >>>>>>> 185 Lincoln Rd > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> *Robert Ahlert* | *781.738.1069* | robahl...@gmail.com > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. > >>>>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > >>>>>>> Browse the archives at > >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > >>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at > >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. > >>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > >>>>> Browse the archives at > >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > >>>>> Change your subscription settings at > >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >>>>> -- > >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. > >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > >>> Browse the archives at > >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > >>> Change your subscription settings at > >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >>> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "HCALincoln" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to hcalincoln+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hcalincoln/CAEpGxk_XLrCTrUcNS8JqdOkXFGaueUJcdmAyUwkoJL8jFEy_5A%40mail.gmail.com > >> < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hcalincoln/CAEpGxk_XLrCTrUcNS8JqdOkXFGaueUJcdmAyUwkoJL8jFEy_5A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > > > >> . > > > Best > > Carolyn > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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