Not for long.  With every option C vote, Civico inches closer to owning  the 
mall property. Then we can say... I told you so.  

Terri K

    On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 12:39:11 PM EST, Margaret Olson 
<s...@margaretolson.com> wrote:  
 
 The owner of the mall property is the RLF, not Civico.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:36 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait <sa...@bayhas.com> wrote:

There are already 4 story buildings being proposed at the mall to be able to 
fit the 100 units Civico is insisting on… the only way the mall could add a 
community center is if another floor was added, making it 5 stories. 

At what point do we say that’s enough? 
Sarah PostlethwaitLewis Street
On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 11:53 AM Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> wrote:

There is nothing that would prevent the RLF from providing or preserving the 
option of community center space.  And, since it would likely be a long-term 
lease arrangement, it would spread the cost over the life of the lease with the 
upfront construction costs borne by the developer.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 10:44 AM Lynne Smith <ly...@smith.net> wrote:

Option E is the only HCA option that would allow us to think about including 
the Community Center at the Mall.
Lynne Smith5 Tabor Hill RoadLincoln, MA 01773cell:  781-258-1175ly...@smith.net



On Dec 1, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Jane Appell <jappell...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ken, 
You make a great point. The community center and housing zoning came up at 
different times as separate issues. But,  For good planning and to provide the 
most benefit to the town as we would like to see it, it makes sense to look at 
them both together while we have the chance. 
Jane

Jane Appell, Ph.D.Sent from my iPad

On Dec 1, 2023, at 7:54 AM, Ken Hurd <kenh...@keha.com> wrote:



Hello LincolnTalkers,With apologies for expressing yet again my strongly held 
opinion as an architect concerned with what we build in Lincoln, I want to 
remind everyone why I and many others believe we should not build a community 
center on the school campus.  I still believe it should be located in Lincoln 
Station, particularly now that our small commercial area is in play because of 
the Housing Choice Act.
As I wrote last year, "I fully support building a new facility, but it has long 
been my opinion that such a major investment by the town should be deployed 
where it is most needed - namely in the Lincoln Station area.  For more than 
ten years since Town Meeting approved the Comprehensive Long Range Plan, in 
which the revitalization of Lincoln Station was overwhelmingly one of the 
highest priorities, the area has lain dormant and in serious need of a catalyst 
to jumpstart its transformation into the compact, vital, walkable village 
center that was a stated goal at the time.  A community center in such a 
location would be the equivalent of an anchor store in a retail setting, and by 
virtue of attracting more people on a regular basis, it would create more 
opportunities for a clustered cross-current of activities spawning greater 
social interaction."  
As many will recall at last year’s Town Meeting, there was serious concern 
about the cost to build it, and I am of the opinion that there are better ways 
to accomplish this than spending anywhere from $18 to $24 million of taxpayer 
money to do so.  As was recently suggested to me by an experienced urban 
planner, why not include the Community Center as a required accessory use in 
the development of a future residential project at Lincoln Station?   
As he said, “With clear program requirements and project parameters to guide 
the design of a new project, developers can be very efficient in realizing a 
good project on time and within budget.” Moreover, “It would be a plus to any 
potential developer's proforma to have a confirmed tenant (assuming COA 
long-term lease) for … an active community use in purposely designed ground 
level space. This strategy would minimize the cost to Lincoln upfront financing 
for design and construction, replace public project inefficiencies with 
professional development expertise, and as such the new Community Center 
facility may be more affordable to the town's stressed taxpayers."
As I also wrote last year, I believe  it would constitute the classic suburban 
planning error to create a new facility that stands alone at the school and, 
like the suburban mall, accessible only by car.  In addition, because of school 
protocols, there would be very limited inter-generational co-mingling until 
after school hours, if at all.  And, even if there weren’t a greater  awareness 
about the effects of climate change, wouldn’t it make far more sense to locate 
a community center where there are already other crucial services such as the 
post office, grocery store, cleaners, a cafe and restaurant, not to mention the 
potential for more housing?  
Earlier this week I wrote the Selects about including an option to vote for 
“None of the Above” at tomorrow’s Town Meeting.  Absent any response, I plan to 
vote for Option 3 ($12.5 million project cost) that has already been 
characterized as not sufficient to provide services comparable to what we 
already have at Bemis.
Please join me in rejecting the more expensive options 1 and 2 in order to 
redirect our efforts to take advantage of this moment in time to be far more 
creative, innovative and holistic in how we design and fund a Community Center 
that can also help transform Lincoln Station to its full potential as a truly 
vital, walkable village center.  Remember,
      we humans shape our environments at a moment in time, and then they shape 
us for decades to come.
Respectfully,Ken Hurd











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