Cool - I'll have to get my hands on a copy and see what it does.  :)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:52 AM
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Michael - SAF is the new (with z/VM 4.2) System Administration Facility
that is intended to simplify the installation and management of Linux
guests for those who are not VM sysprogs.

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Hi Lional,

Not sure what "SAF" is, but to become the secondary user of another user
execute CP SET SECUSER targetvm yourvm.  Then "yourvm" can execute CP SEND
targetvm commands that will execute on it's console and the results
returned
to "yourvm"'s console.  There's nothing to setup, except for any code you
may want to write to send commands to a farm of Linux machines (simple to
write in REXX).

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:09 AM
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This sounds very nice but:

1. will this work when using SAF (I don't think so)?
2. how do I set this up?

thx (I'm a vm newbie)

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As a follow up to that, if you haven't already done so, look into setting
up
a secondary user for your Linux virtual machines.  This user can then
"take
control" of the Linux virtual machine console by using the CP SEND
command.
You can also dynamically become a virtual machine's secuser using the SET
SECUSER command.

You can use the PIPE STARMSG stage to trap the IUCV responses from Linux
guests and respond accordingly.

Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Webb, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:23 AM
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Subject: Re: Managing Linux guests under z/VM


Under VM, the standard way to start guests is to add XAUTOLOG commands to
AUTOLOG1's PROFILE EXEC.

For shutdown, you have to roll your own. We have a SHUTDOWN EXEC on
OPERATOR
that starts an orderly shutdown of assorted service machines and Linux
guests, in combination with a special userid called AUTOSHUT.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lionel Dyck [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:11 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Managing Linux guests under z/VM
>
> When running a penguin farm under z/VM what tools can one use to:
>
> 1. schedule the startup of the guests after a z/VM IPL?
>
> 2. schedule an orderly, clean, shutdown of all guests for a planned z/VM
> IPL?
>
> thx
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> Kaiser Permanente Information Technology
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