That is interesting.  I will make a note, although what is likely to happen is that we 
will be surprised when a vendor ups its maintenance, then the vendor will be surprised 
when we switch to another product.

-----Original Message-----
From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ifl


Just one word of warning.  A pretty small number of software suppliers
didn't go along with this pricing strategy, and will still charge you for
the additional capacity an IFL provides.  Make sure you talk to _all_ your
suppliers before you actually get one installed, just so there are no
surprises.


Mark Post

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Fargusson.Alan
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ifl


Note that z/OS not only will not boot on an IFL, but it does not see IFL
processors when counting the number of CPs in a system.  This means that
they don't count for software support cost.  This is very important to us
(rather, it will be if we ever get an IFL to run Linux).

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ifl


> I believe that the only difference between an Integrated Facility for
> Linux (IFL) processor and a standard processor is that the IFL has a
> microcode fix to ensure that MVS systems can't use it.

To be more specific, the IFL has a hardware/microcode difference which
prevents operating systems other than z/VM V4/V5 or Linux from booting on
it. This means, z/OS, VSE/ESA, TPF, z/VM V3 and their predecessors (not just
MVS). This also applies to these operating systems as guests of z/VM V4/V5.

Jim

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