Is anyone using IBM TSM with 3490 or 3590 tape drives?
Betsie

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Post, Mark K
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:43 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Backing up zLinux

I think you just got yourself into trouble here.  I would hardly characterize 
z/OS as having a "primitive" I/O stack or architecture.  Lots of buffering and 
caching go on there, both in hardware and software.  The _real_ difference is 
that z/OS, just like Linux or z/VM, _always_ has a consistent view of its own 
data.  In a shared DASD environment, this is enforced via serialization 
techniques, either hardware reserve/release, or software such as GRS, MIM, etc. 
 Without those, backing up one z/OS system from another one would run into 
similar (but perhaps not as severe) problems with inconsistent data winding up 
on tape.


Mark Post 

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carsten Otte
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:16 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Backing up zLinux

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I know this is díferent with operating systems that have a more 
primitive IO stack like z/OS, which don't do caching and write behind. 
For Linux, do always use dm-snapshot or a backup client _inside_ the 
machine or mount read-only.

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