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(Discussion about z/VM and z/OS licensing snipped) I note that IBM makes some amount of money from reselling and providing service for nominally freely available linux distributions. I can only hope that, at some point, many or all of the OS's IBM wholly owns will be treated by IBM in a similar manner. I know for myself and my company, we happily pay IBM much cash for entitlements to enterprise linux to run on our mainframes and on other non-mainframe data center kit, even though I also happily run non-enterprise, freely available linux on my desktop. I'd dearly love to have the legal option to run an inexpensive z/VM at my desk as well, even though we'd continue to pay lots of $$ for z/VM maintenance and support. To run an inexpensive, private z/VM with half decent performance and no chance of effecting our production systems would be invaluable for any number of reasons, training, kicking the tires on a new beta product eval, etc. However, there's no way my organization would pay for extra ram to cut an LPAR for that. Much less two LPARs to test out anything like CSE. Anyway, apologies for the rant. I only hope that IBM considers doing this before linux as a zSeries hypervisor starts being considered a more serious option precisely because people can play with it more readily ... - -- Pat -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkr4q/gACgkQNObCqA8uBsxdMgCffYBg2Mewd8EykidpjUHk25J6 SLEAnRLXstwHLMiDOrilgjo3jEoRhnuE =yj+c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390