Seems more and more that people are exclusively "expenses" rather than
"investments" nowadays.  When was the last time your employer "invested"
in training (of any kind) for you?

    -jc-


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> I agree, it's all about money. It seems to me that an educational
> license would be a *good* long term investment, even if a few are
> abused. Or maybe IBM's commitment to the "NextGen" is not as strong as
> we are led to believe.
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> > Alan Altmark wrote:
> > >
> > > Bottom line, zPDT is available only to software vendors (ISVs).
> >
> > So, end result, there's no inexpensive desktop viable evaluation,
> > training or hobbiest option available for non ISVs, period.
> >
> > - From the amount of traffic in this this thread, it sounds like I'm
> > not the only person who'd appreciate having such a thing available.
> > How can we customers request such a thing from IBM?  If enough
> > customers ask, I'd hope IBM management would at least consider
making
> > such available.
> >
> > - -- Pat
> 
> As in all things in a capitalist country: Money talks. Speech doesn't.
> Or, as is sometimes said by IBMers on the IBM-MAIN list: "Show us a
> business case which will make us money and we'll pay attention."
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> is: "Otherwise you're <elided> in the wind."
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