If you want to play remember xCAT is a freebie. If you are z/VM 6.3 you have xCAT and can jump right in.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Barton Robinson < bar...@velocitysoftware.com> wrote: > zPRO has been out for about 4 years and was a project started almost 10 > years ago. We had many customers create their own self service > applications using our web technology, it seemed reasonable to take > their ideas and make a common product. > > ZPRO V2 is built on ALL native z/VM functionality, meaning, we don't > have any requirement for Linux servers, agents, SMAPI, JAVA and a lot of > other things I find frustrating. KEEP IT VERY SIMPLE (AND VERY > INEXPENSIVE) > > With our webserver (ZVWS, formerly ESAWEB) being a native z/VM > webserver, eliminating SMAPI (and anybody who has tried to use SMAPI > knows that is a VERY GOOD thing) was easy. No java agents mean any > browser works. Since ZVWS is already installed in a few hundred > installations, most of those already have the full infrastructure > installed - zPRO installation takes about 10 minutes by a junior systems > programmer. It is NON-INTRUSIVE, meaning that if it is there it works, > if not there, everything functions. I don't like system hooks or asking > customers to "rebuild lpars" because of some software product. > > Next week, our demo system will be back online again with Version 2. > We've been giving preliminary demonstrations of V2. Most installations > are asking for "self service" so you will be able to clone a Linux > server, a CMS guest, a 2nd level z/VM server AND logon to it. > Can't provide an external IP address so no SSH in, i can't afford > someone from say Ukraine or North Korea creating a server on my system > and hacking the world. > > Watch this space, there is a lot of back ground activity now that will > soon be very visible. > > And to answer your final question: ZPRO can be configured to clone a > server using disk pool A on LPAR1. Installing WAS is not a mainframe > thing - but having golden images of your target server means you have > consistency and a lot less time diagnosing problems. > > Can wave/zPro/xcat be configured and automated to a level where user may > just say "give me redhat 7 created on disk pool A and on LPAR 1 and > install WAS". > > > If you would like a demonstration, please do contact me. > > > > > On 1/20/2015 11:04 AM, Grzegorz Powiedziuk wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am trying to do some sort of a comparison between these products and >> more >> digging I do then more I am lost. >> There are many presentations out there with "big" words like "cloud, >> orchestrate, cut costs.... bla bla bla" but it is hard get to the bottom >> of it. >> >> Correct me if I am wrong but so far it seams that >> >> 1. SCO is rather developed for project managers who can just click and >> deploy without understanding the platform at all. They can just chose >> images, create patterns, add scripts to be executed on top of an image. >> Patterns - who provide these? IBM provides these or user have to create >> their own (for example installation of WebSphere or Apache server after >> deployment). >> It does not support SSI and zFCP (only edevices) >> >> 2. IBM Wave seems to be more for system admins who are just tired of 3270 >> and constant punching virtual kernels. User can do most of z/VM's tasks >> from a GUI and it looks awesome. Admin of IBM Wave have to understand Z >> and >> z/VM very well. But on the other hand, I see that IBM Wave supports users >> and groups. You can create a non privileged user and give him access to >> only to specific "projects". For example web server. So it kind of looks >> like SCO. If that is the case - why bother with SCO, isn't IBM Wave >> better? >> Am I wrong? >> >> 3. zPRO. I wish I could find some demo videos about this one. From my >> understanding it is more like an IBM Wave. Designed for system admins not >> project managers. Not meant to be IaaS product right? >> >> 4. xCAT. Also rather for system admins only right? >> >> When I try to sum it up in my head, it comes out that only SCO is an IaaS >> solution (a very limited but still) because only SCO allows someone who >> knows nothing about Z to deploy a virtual machine and add some software on >> top of it. >> And SCO seems to be using xcat for doing actual system work. >> >> Can Wave/zPro/xCat be used as an IaaS ? OR those are completely not meant >> to be an IaaS solution. >> I guess I should ask: >> Can wave/zPro/xcat be configured and automated to a level where user may >> just say "give me redhat 7 created on disk pool A and on LPAR 1 and >> install WAS". >> >> Thank you >> Gregory >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
