By the way. If I go the route of the network FTP server. Is there any
setting in the hmc that needs to be addressed to allow access to a network
FTP server?

Thanks

On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Steve P <steve.lin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Alan Altmark <alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','alan_altm...@us.ibm.com');>> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 02/03/2015 at 01:56 EST, Steve P <steve.lin...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > But no DVD drive and no USB drives.  They are accessed differently.
>> > > Without the additional support that Mark referred to in one of his
>> first
>> > > responses, the installer cannot access the removable media on the HMC.
>> >
>> > So setup a remote network bases FTP server that can communicate with the
>> > hmc IP ports and load that remote server with the files in those 2
>> > install DVDs.  Or enable  FTP access to mass storage media by giving it
>> the
>> > IP address of the Lpar?
>>
>> Not quite, no.   Having been loaded by the firmware from the DVD, the
>> installer wants to reach out and get the files.  It can't get them from
>> the DVD directly because it doesn't know how (no driver).  So it has no
>> choice but to use an IP network connection to a file server (ftp).
>
>
> So for the FTP  file server I can use the hmc enable FTP access to mass
> storage media giving the installer the IP address of the hmc. And giving
> the lpar IP address to the hmc FTP facility (for lack of a
> better name/word).  I just want to know for sure If this is valid option
> for me.   If not then I will abandon it and move to other options.
>
>
>> To use an IP network, the installer needs two different IP addresses; one
>> for the itself and one for the FTP server.  Those IP addresses must be
>> able to communicate, either directly or over a router.  The network config
>> data you supply to the installer must reflect the proper subnet masks,
>> router IPs, etc. etc.
>
>
> Understood
>
>
>
>>
>> > > When you the "Load from removable media or FTP server" recovery task,
>> that
>> > > media is automatically authorized to be accessed by the LPAR, and it
>> > > remains so until the LPAR is deactivated, you load another LPAR from
>> that
>> > > same media, or you manually release the media.  (I don't remember if
>> > > placing the back-up media into the drive causes it to be disconnected
>> from
>> > > the LPAR or not.)
>> >
>> > So after the LOAD from removable media DVD and the the Installer  starts
>> > the installation prompting for network configuration.  And then asks for
>> > the FTP server IP address, Does the Lpar or Linux installer is
>> > still authorized to access the DVD or not?  I would think yes since it
>> > hasnt been use again since the Load.
>>
>> If it helps, know that there are special instructions that must be used to
>> read the data from the DVD from inside the LPAR.  The LPAR is still
>> authorized to use those instructions (like VM TCP/IP does), but without
>> that removable media device driver, the authorization does it no good.
>>
>>
> The special instructions you're talking about is the proverbial device
> driver that IBM is yet to develop/allow. Correct?  So for now an IP network
> is best?
>
>
>
>> > > But if Linux gets a driver for the HMC removable media, it will be
>> able to
>> > > access the removable media or the remote FTP server to complete the
>> > > installation without having to have a network connection to the LPAR
>> > > itself.
>> >
>> > So there is not a driver for in Linux  for the hmc removable media. Not
>> yet
>> > from IBM.
>>
>> Correct, though an earlier comment from Mark made it sound like someone is
>> looking at it.
>>
>> Alan Altmark
>>
>> Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
>> Lab Services System z Delivery Practice
>> IBM Systems & Technology Group
>> ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
>> office: 607.429.3323
>> mobile; 607.321.7556
>> alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
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