Linux-Advocacy Digest #141, Volume #26           Sat, 15 Apr 00 15:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!! ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!! ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (George Graves)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Marty)
  Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000 (Bart Oldeman)
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (John Hasler)
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (John Hasler)
  Re: dvwssr.dll ("Francis Van Aeken")
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (John Hasler)
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (John Hasler)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (C Lund)
  Re: uptime -> /dev/null (Trevor Curtis)
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (Christopher Browne)
  Re: The truth is often painful... (Bart Oldeman)
  Re: dvwssr.dll (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Backdoors in Windows 2000 or server software? (Rob S. Wolfram)
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary ("red-5")
  Re: LNUX below 30 ("Francis Van Aeken")

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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:53:09 -0400

Whatthe hell drugs are you on?

I've NEVER said that I will never touch or are completely opposed to any
such things.
I am not a nVidia developer so do not have access to that site but if you
had half a brain and kept up on these things you'd know that in the case of
these drivers "leaked" is what nVidia calls them so they don't have to
warranty them against frying your system. these are "leaked" regularly and
the newsgroups and fan sites monitored for feedback. nvidia is fully aware
of this and is not at all interested in stoping or slowing it - in fact,
they NEED the feedback. if nVidia didn't like it, you'd think they'd have
done anything against the 100s of sites that carry this material nice and on
their front pages.

This has nothing to do with DeCSS which is just plain stupid as are the
idiots who blindly try to defend what they barely understand.

get a life...

"Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Well, drestin, you should be able to access that on NVIDIA's site. Since
> you've made several statements that you would never use anything pirated
> or in any other way violating a copyright, and since these are obviously
> leaked drivers, then unless you have signed an NDA you would be
> violating an NVIDIA copyright. So, you'll just go to NVIDIA's site as a
> registered developer with a signed NDA and a username/password, now,
> right? I mean, this isn't much different from the whole DeCSS copyright
> issue, pirated software, etc. All things you've proclaimed loud and long
> that you will never touch, are completely opposed to, and further stated
> that anyone stooping to such a level is lower than the lowest scum on
> earth.
>
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:47:30 -0400, "Drestin Black"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :can anyone get the PDF file? Mine has a broken link.
> :
> :if so, can you post the proper link
> :
> :"Suzook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :news:otMJ4.4523$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> Here they are
> :>
> :> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bmsmit/
> :>
> :>
> :
>
>
>
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:54:57 -0400

p.s., unless you can provide some documentation to:
"All things you've proclaimed loud and long
> that you will never touch, are completely opposed to, and further stated
> that anyone stooping to such a level is lower than the lowest scum on
> earth."

I will continue to have to consider you a liar and lying outloud in these
groups.
I never said such things and you are lying.

"Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Well, drestin, you should be able to access that on NVIDIA's site. Since
> you've made several statements that you would never use anything pirated
> or in any other way violating a copyright, and since these are obviously
> leaked drivers, then unless you have signed an NDA you would be
> violating an NVIDIA copyright. So, you'll just go to NVIDIA's site as a
> registered developer with a signed NDA and a username/password, now,
> right? I mean, this isn't much different from the whole DeCSS copyright
> issue, pirated software, etc. All things you've proclaimed loud and long
> that you will never touch, are completely opposed to, and further stated
> that anyone stooping to such a level is lower than the lowest scum on
> earth.
>
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:47:30 -0400, "Drestin Black"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :can anyone get the PDF file? Mine has a broken link.
> :
> :if so, can you post the proper link
> :
> :"Suzook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :news:otMJ4.4523$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> Here they are
> :>
> :> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bmsmit/
> :>
> :>
> :
>
>
>
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From: George Graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:15:39 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Steve) wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:06:20 GMT, George Graves
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mayor 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>This is diferent from the flyers Macromedia sends me promising
>>>to teach me the ins and outs of Freehand, Dreamweaver, Flash and
>>>Fireworks in a weekend how?
>>>Is Macromedia pathetic, Eric?
>>
>>You miss the point. The seminar isn't what's pathetic, it's Windows 
>>that's pathetic for requiring people to know this much crap just to keep 
>>a bunch of these clunkers running!
>
>I've been _heavily_ using Win95/98 since the day Win95 was released
>and have _yet_ to have to play with the registry. I'll tell you what's
>_pathetic_ and that's the back-water Mac only being able to run one
>instance of a program at a time. (This is year 2000 ??? )

1) That's not true. Mac users can run as many instances of a program as
they want (I just can't imagine why they would want to.

2) If you are talking about multitasking. Crow now, because when OSX 
ships (This fall, possibly) you will never be able to voice that 
complaint again. 

>I tap the
>spacebar twice and my  PC turns on, boots & connects to the net with
>_3_ instances of IE running , one goes to my news site, one to web
>mail,  and one to my online broker. With as much web intensive work as
>I do the Mac would be a REAL mill stone around my neck,

Actually, It wouldn't. You can do the same thing on a Mac. I wrote a 
QuicKey shortcut to do something very similar. I hit the boot key on the 
keyboard to start my Mac up (nothing new or unusual there). Then when I 
get to desktop, I hit F4. My machine logs onto my ISP, launches Internet 
Explorer, goes to MOSR, and HolyMac (in two separate windows), launches 
O.E., gets my E-mail, and launches MT-Newswatcher and retreives the news 
headers from 5 newsgroups, all at the same time. Don't knock the 
capabilities of MacOS until you KNOW for sure what it can and cannot do. 
In this case you've sadly underestimated the current MacOS ---- Like 
most Wintrolls.

>But all is
>not lost , I  think with OS X the Mac will finally crawl out from
>under the rock a bit. 

A BIT! It should leave that Windows crap so far back in the dust, that 
M$ will be struggling for years playing catch-up and copying OSX 
features and look-and-feel.
-- 
George Graves


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From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:18:21 GMT

Gerben Bergman corrupted his registry with the following:
> 
> On 15 Apr 2000 15:49:10 GMT, jansens_at_ibm_dot_net, the rebel without a
> clue, said:
>
> I've had one .INI-file corruption so serious that I was forced to do a total
> reinstall -- OS/2 would hang while loading the Workplace Shell, giving me an
> error dialog without any text on it. Also, a friend of mine found that he
> had to run UniMaint weekly to keep his system from getting unstable. As for
> registry problems on NT: I've had it blow up on me once, comparable to OS/2,
> while my friend is still to have his first problem.
> 
> In short: my experience doesn't support your claim that "the OS/2 *.INI
> files can withstand a lot more punches than their Windows equivalents".
> Anecdotal evidence? Sure, but no more than yours.

I've only had one OS/2 INI file problem.  Ironically, it was caused by running
one of the INI file maintenance tools (must have been an early version).  I
haven't used those tools since and I haven't had INI corruption since.  I
pound the rest of my system into the ground regularly, but my HPFS filesystems
and INI files have never skipped a beat (with that one exception noted).

In fairness, I've never had the registry corrupted on my Win95 partition.  By
the same token, I use Win95 once a week, if that, whereas I'm in OS/2 for the
remainder of the time.

> | And even if I were to corrupt the *.INI files, OS/2 can repair them without
> | my help.
> 
> Not in my case; OS/2 wouldn't boot, I had no recent backup, I was SOL.

If you can get to a command prompt (which I'm certain you could if the INI
files were *all* that was corrupted), you could have run MAKEINI (which is
included in Warp 3 and 4).

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Crossposted-To: alt.lang.basic,alt.destroy.microsoft
From: Bart Oldeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:16:15 GMT

On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Bloody Viking wrote:
> Michael W. Cocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I heard the same set of rumors.  After a bit of checking, I can say that
> : Win2K will run DOS programs about as well as NT4 does. (with the usual 
> : problems, in other words).
> 
> This shit with Microsoft sucks. Now they want to force programming
> hobbyists to pay hundreds of bucks for yet another version of BASIC. No
> wonder I like Linux. I guess I'll have to make a Loadlin disk with
> QBASIC.EXE so I can code, route into a QB >> C converter and compile on
> Linux. Fuck Megalosloth(tm). 

I don't see your point. Why would you need a bootdisk if you're in Linux
if you can run qbasic in dosemu? Runs fine, both X and console.

And if you are an MS hater you should delete QBASIC.EXE immediately
anyway.

Bart


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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:48:32 GMT

red-5 writes:
> Why do they "choose" to give away their intellectual property?  I'd say
> because they view the products of their labour to be the "property" of
> the community-

No.  I do it because my software isn't property at all: it's information,
and I do not deprive myself of anything by giving it away.  This is not
true of the crops I grow on my farm, and so I sell those.

> OpenSource=sharing to work towards common good
> capitalist companies=make proprietary to maximise profits

Humpty-Dumpty definitions.

> What restraints are there on the illegal trade in drugs...

The cartels will kill you if you compete with them.

> In order for the system to work, you need constant, increasing,
> consumption.

Horseshit.

> We make equipment that breaks, so that you have to buy more.

Horseshit.

> They're even trying to do that with crops cf: suicide gene.

Horseshit.  One of the most troublesome weeds in rotated crops is
volunteers from the previous crop.  In any case, most farmers buy
commercial hybrid seed corn every year despite the ready availability of
open pollinating varieties that they could replant.  Why?  Because the
increased yield is worth the extra cost.

Around here most of us plant bin-run oats because the primary purpose of
the oats is to suppress weeds in the alfalfa they are planted with and to
provide straw.  If we were planting them as a primary crop we would use
certified seed.

> I am still confused- what is the incentive to make good OpenSource
> software (trying desperately to keep OT;) if there is no financial
> reward?

I netted $25,000 earlier this year as a direct result of my free software
efforts.  If I had tried to sell that software I would not have made a
penny.

> I am still confused- what is the incentive to make good OpenSource
> software (trying desperately to keep OT;) if there is no financial
> reward?

Personal satisfaction, the admiration of one's peers, fame, indirect
financial reward,...

> People can work and be productive with better motivation than greed.
> That's not my motivation, is it yours?

One man's greed is another man's altruism.  I see nothing wrong at all with
offering to exchange some of my goods for some of yours in the expectation
that we will both be better off.

> And by that I mean our rights and freedoms, not our wealth.

A man without property is soon dead.  You die without food.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:11:05 GMT

Donovan Rebbechi writes:
> Sure you could [have a capitalist autocracy]. ( for example, Hitler's
> Germany )

Nazi == National _Socialist_ Party.

> Of course, if you want to give to those who are unproductive, you must
> take from those who are productive.

And that is the problem with all these schemes: who is to do this taking?
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin


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From: "Francis Van Aeken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dvwssr.dll
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:35:11 -0300

mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> I used to be a real NT zealot, kernel developer, beta tester, the whole
> deal. The more I work with Linux and FreeBSD, the more I hope I never
> have to work on god-damned windows ever again.

Why would you? You are a free man, aren't you? Why not throw the
"Windows 9x, Windows NT" out of your signature and out of your
business? Why do you keep on sucking Microsoft's dick if you hate
them so much? Because it pays?

Francis.




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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:05:04 GMT

Vladimir writes:
> By destroying 70% of their harvest they can drive the prices high enough
> to sell the remaining 30% for more profits then they would have made if
> they had sold their entire crop for lower prices.

If farmers actually did that they would see the guy down the road sell 100%
of his crop into the same market and earn three times as much money.  What
really happens is that the government buys that 70% with tax money and
destroys it.  Not a free market.

> Same thing with oil, by underusing their facilities oil companies can
> create artificial shortages of oil driving the prices through the roof.

By that theory all prices should be infinite.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin


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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:46:00 GMT

red-5 writes:
> No- you can see the "free market" in its purest form, the one least
> affected by governments, by looking at the third biggest trade in the
> world economy- illegal drugs.  There is no competition, to speak of, as
> it is all run by 2/3 cartels, that actually have meetings, such as the
> famous one in France a few years ago, to divide up the market.

And then they use violence to prevent competition, just as governments do.
The goal of these cartels is to destroy the free market.  They are
governments of a sort.

> You could have an autocracy, and a capitalist economic system.

No.  The autocrat would intervene to distort the market in favor of herself
and her friends.

> A friend of mine has just returned from working in St Petersburg, and
> from what i've been told the Russian mafia is pretty much as bad as the
> KGB ever was.

I get the impression that the "Russian mafia" pretty much is the old KGB.

> I mean the gap between rich and poor.

Most people would rather their neighbor have two pigs for their one than
that neither have any.

> We have a finite amount of resources, and if you distribute more to one
> place, you have to take it away from another.

Classic socialist zero sum economics.

> Yes it [homelessness] is caused by capitalism.

No.  It is caused by government.

> There is no reason people should be living on the streets.

I agree.

> If we lived by "from each according to their ability, to each according
> to their need"...

We would not be human.

> ...instead of "take what you can and guard it with your life"...

We don't.

> Tragically, it's all too easy to see what's wrong with the world,...

No.  Its all to easy to *imagine* that you see what's wrong with the world.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lund)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:37:34 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
George Graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >But all is
> >not lost , I  think with OS X the Mac will finally crawl out from
> >under the rock a bit. 
> A BIT! It should leave that Windows crap so far back in the dust, that 
> M$ will be struggling for years playing catch-up and copying OSX 
> features and look-and-feel.

Hrmff..

"Windows2002" will sport a new and "innovative" GUI that coincidentially
resembles the Aqua interface. Underneath this "groundbreaking" new
interface, the same old WindowsX will be lurking. The result will be yet
another kludgy, ugly OS from Microsoft, and the Wintrolls will be all over
CSMA telling us how much better it is than the lousy ol' Mac because it
supports the floppy drive or some such thing.

OS X will probably leave Microsoft in the dust, but don't think for a
second the WIntrolls will admit it.

> George Graves

-- 

C Lund
http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/

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From: Trevor Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uptime -> /dev/null
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:42:26 GMT

Mike Marion wrote:

> Pedro Ballester wrote:
>
> >    What are you saying ? Don't you know that every hard piece have
> > a usability-time; switching on and off 1000 times a day I admit is a
> > little stressing, but being switched on forever is equally, have you
> > ever read hard disk specs ? Something like "1000 hours use" (the number
> > is invented).
>
> No.  All electronic devices (and even things like car engines) will
> (theorectially) last much longer if they are left on continuously (and properly
> cooled/maintained of course, which in the case of an engine means you have to
> turn it off to change the oil, filters, etc).
>
> The act of turning devices on causes stress on an order of magnitude higher then
> the stress it gets simply running. Why do you think flipping the power on and
> off rapidly is bad for a machine?  Because you're giving it the surge of power
> when it's turned on.  The act of turning your machine off each night just
> spreads it out over time, but it still does the damage in smaller increments.
>
> Someone else mentioned light bulbs.  How often have you seen a light just
> suddenly go out?  How many times does the light go right when you flip it on?  I
> know for me (and everyone I know) lights always (or almost always) die right
> when you flip it on, due to the surge of electricity that is forced through it.
>
> --
> Mike Marion -  Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.
> In the back of the room are four Apple ][e computers. Apple ][e ... my God. How
> can our educational system be this neglected? What a geek I am to be fretting
> over the lack of computing power available to the students. Kids smoking crack?
> It's only drugs. Teenage pregnancy? The responsibility of a newborn will add
> character. 6502 CPUs with 64K of RAM, daisychained to a single low-density 5
> 1/4" floppy drive? Great Scott! Are we not barbarians for stranding our future
> generations on a precarious foundation strung together with 8-bit processors
> and low-resolution graphics? -> Ad Nauseam - "Speed geek"

That car engine analogy seems quite sound.  If you have the choice of a second-hand
car that is always driven around town (to work, do shopping, etc) or a car that
does mostly long highway travel, one would opt for the latter.  Easier on the car.
Also,  in the dead of winter you are  required to let the car heat up before you
putz around in it (this proves the component/heat point).

Also, lets use the 1000hrs spec.  Would straining your computer with power ups and
downs detract from this number?  ie. 1000hrs with minimal reboots == 900 hrs with
reboots.  (the numbers themselves aren't important here just the main idea).

my Canadian 0.02 cents (= 0.000001 cents American ;-)
Trev.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:51:19 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when John Hasler would say:
>Donovan Rebbechi writes:
>> Sure you could [have a capitalist autocracy]. ( for example, Hitler's
>> Germany )
>
>Nazi == National _Socialist_ Party.

It is _so_ unfortunate that this ends the discussion due to the corollaries
of Godwin's Law.

I'm not sure that anyone would recognize the Nazis as having been
particularly "socialist" in _nature,_ despite having the name.  There
is certainly some ambiguity.

>> Of course, if you want to give to those who are unproductive, you must
>> take from those who are productive.
>
>And that is the problem with all these schemes: who is to do this taking?

Indeed.  
- Who does the taking?
- On what _moral_ basis do they take it?
  Which is _not_ as simple as saying "because some else needs it."
- On what _legal_ basis do they take it?
  Once the "theft" gets morally justified, it needs to be "legislatively
  justified," otherwise it implies that anyone can "thieve" whenever they
  feel as if they are morally justified, and people are demonstrably good
  at feeling what they _want_ to feel...
-- 
Bad command. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaay... 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: Bart Oldeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The truth is often painful...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:42:33 GMT

On 14 Apr 2000, Bastian wrote:

> As long as you use word as a better text editor it's certainly true. But
> it gets dangerous if you inted to use such word-processor features as
> including a picture or even a chart into your document. And it certainly
> crashes if you have written more than 20 pages...

Interesting thing is this. I basically used WP5.1/6.0 up to 1995 and
because its equation editor was so limited I switched to LaTeX and haven't
looked back. So I ask others why (because it's "standard") and how they
use Word, and show them a printed LaTeX document with lots of mathematics
and references to compare.

Many different reactions, for instance:

"Word is fine for doing short stuff like letters. But it's crap for
anything more than 10 pages. I had suddenly lost figures at one time and
to get numbered equations you have to define a pathetic table."

"I can make my Word document (including formulas) as good looking as your
LaTeX document". On which I commented: "But most mathematical Word
documents I've seen looked plain ugly." "Oh, but then they don't know how
to properly use Word."

"Do you _type_ \omega instead of clicking it from a symbol table. How
slow is that." Of course that's only true if you're a hunt and peck style
typist.

LaTeX has a steep learning curve. That's true, but then there's LyX
as well now. But the accumulated knowledge to do the same thing in Word
according to their explanation seems to be greater than what I do in
LaTeX.

Bart


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: dvwssr.dll
Date: 15 Apr 2000 14:54:13 -0400

On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:35:11 -0300, Francis Van Aeken wrote:

>Why would you? You are a free man, aren't you? Why not throw the
>"Windows 9x, Windows NT" out of your signature and out of your
>business? Why do you keep on sucking Microsoft's dick if you hate
>them so much? Because it pays?

Speak for yourself. He doesn't "suck Microsoft's dick".

-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob S. Wolfram)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Backdoors in Windows 2000 or server software?
Date: 15 Apr 2000 18:06:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is entirely untrue - There IS NO BACKDOOR IN FRONTPAGE

Oh? I take it you have a source license for Frontpage which enables you
to verify that?

>http://www.ntbugtraq.com/default.asp?pid=36&sid=1&A2=ind0004&L=ntbugtraq&F=&;
>S=&P=3354

This does not implicate your statement above. Can you proof the absence
of a backdoor in any way? I'd say the probability that there's a
backdoor in Frontpage is about equal to the probability that there's a
flight simulator in a spreadsheet ((c) Phil Hunt).

Cheers,
Rob
-- 
Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  PGP 0x07606049  GPG 0xD61A655D
   "The POP3 server service depends on the SMTP server service, which
   failed to start because of the following error:
   The operation completed successfully." -- Windows NT Server v3.51


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From: "red-5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: 15 Apr 2000 19:01:38 GMT



John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
> > Sure you could [have a capitalist autocracy]. ( for example, Hitler's
> > Germany )
> 
> Nazi == National _Socialist_ Party.

Don't be ridiculous.  If i call pig dung "chocolate", does that mean the
dung IS chocolate?  Do we really need a discussion of how socialist the
Nazis weren't, or shall we just ignore that comment?
Although... this is the problem with using words like "communist" or
"socialist" when arguing with Americans.  You all grew up with the words
having such bad connotations.  They are the enemy, the evil empire.  I'm
trying to empathise here, maybe it is like using the word Nazi... the
difference being that the ideas of communism are actually fairly nice,
impractical though most of them may be... but you can't see past the big
ugly word that 40 years of hatred and witch-hunts drilled into you.

> > Of course, if you want to give to those who are unproductive, you must
> > take from those who are productive.
> 
> And that is the problem with all these schemes: who is to do this taking?

withering_away_of_the_state. communism doesn't mean centralisation and
intrusive government.  It is the antithesis of that.  Which is why if
you've looked at the subject in any great depth, the idea that Russia was
communist any time since 1921 is absolutely preposterous.  Incidentally-
communism was killed by the White army- and Stalinism is the direct
responsibility of the democratic west.  Ironic, huh?


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From: "Francis Van Aeken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LNUX below 30
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:07:28 -0300

Niall Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8d9pih$km8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> For years Goodyear were the only team making tyres for F1 racing, then
> suddenly Bridgestone decided to join in (Parent of Firestone), and the tyres
> got better and better very suddenly why because Goodyear needed to keep
> providing tyres to keep up their profile, then suddenly they quit leaving
> Bridgestone on their own, and the tyre development stopped.

Did Bridgestone need government control? No, they had a superior product.

If you want to compete with MS is the short run, make an OS that is 100%
compatible with Windows applications, 100% bugfree and a lot cheaper
than Windows (and faster too, yes, that'd be nice).

If you want to compete with MS is the long run, do the same thing (but
you can lower the percentages a bit).

Of course, you can go to court too. Now that programmers no longer have
to be payed, we can give our money to lawers! Wow, what a brave new
world it will be!

Francis.




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