Linux-Advocacy Digest #141, Volume #30 Thu, 9 Nov 00 15:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Konqueror a great web browser ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: OS stability ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: OS stability ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: All hail the Konqueror development team ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: This whole Indrema business... (Jake Taense)
Re: We will never know what the MS intruder did ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux vs Microsoft Misconceptions: ("Javaduke")
Re: The Sixth Sense (Keith T. Williams)
Re: Into the abyss of the WinTroll mind (Mike Raeder)
Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The Sixth Sense (Keith T. Williams)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Konqueror a great web browser
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:04:07 -0500
Clamchu wrote:
>
> Konqueror is the best web browser I have seen. Basically, I am
> disappointed in the direction Mozilla has taken. It seems to be aimed
> toward running on every single platform in existence. Then, Konqueror
Yes, that was one of the original goals...
to have a cross-platform app.
And your point is?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS stability
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:06:50 -0600
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8uepuj$s3r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8ud4os$s0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> The longest uptime on the list comes from Universitaetsklinikum Rudolf
> >> Virchow with 825 days, OVER 2 years! Number 50 came was Octel
> >> Communications Corporation at just under a year, arespectable 347 days!
> >> Linux's best reported uptime? Over a year 406 days.
>
> > Hmm... Sounds like a bunch of servers with security holes. Since
they're on
> > the internet, they can be easily identified and targeted by their
uptimes.
>
> Ummm...
>
> You do realize that you only very rarely have to reboot a UNIX machine
when
> a security patch is applied, no?
>
> And theres nearly always a way around it.
>
> We dont all run windows, erik.
Rarely is not never. You have to reboot to apply a kernel patch. Period.
Machines with several year uptimes simply have not had those patches
applied.
> >> But what about MS? None in the top 50? Well to be fair W2000 has only
> >> been out for what 9 months and the best uptime I found came from Dell
> >> with a W2K server up for 81 days less than 1/3 of the total time w2k
has
> >> been out. The best w2k uptime reported by MS? 75 long days! Not even 3
> >> months. Then there is NT the OS that so many WinSuporters said was so
> >> stable, MS reports about 28 days! Not even a month! The poor MS admins
> >> if that is the BEST NT can do!
>
> > That would be about the time that SP1 came out. SP1 includes kernel
> > updates. No way to apply them without rebooting, in any OS.
>
> Some OSen update the kernel via module revisions (see QNX, Be, AIX) and
> do not need to be rebooted.
Yes, you can upgrade the modules, but the core kernel itself cannot be
upgraded without a reboot.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS stability
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:07:27 -0600
"Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 03:37:09 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >"sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:8ud4os$s0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> The longest uptime on the list comes from Universitaetsklinikum Rudolf
> >> Virchow with 825 days, OVER 2 years! Number 50 came was Octel
> >> Communications Corporation at just under a year, arespectable 347 days!
> >> Linux's best reported uptime? Over a year 406 days.
> >
> >Hmm... Sounds like a bunch of servers with security holes. Since they're
on
> >the internet, they can be easily identified and targeted by their
uptimes.
>
> Most of the security upgrades don't require a reboot.
Most is not all.
If even one known security hole remains, then that site is vulnerable.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: All hail the Konqueror development team
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:06:50 -0500
Clamchu wrote:
>
> All together now:
>
> WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!
> WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!
> WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!
> WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!
> WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe you, but not me.
All who are "not worthy" can run LoseDOWS....
All who are worthy...run Linux.
>
> Good work, guys! You guys absolutely, positively, kick SERIOUS INTERNET
> EXPLORER ASSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
>
> Buy KDE products and services.
>
> Clamchu
>
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:09:00 -0500
Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8ubc1p$2al$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > >
> > > No, you have a yes or no choice with no hint
> > > of the correct answer. If you choose 'open'
> > > it is up to the sender what will happen next.
> >
> > Then don't *choose* open.
> > Simple, isn't it?
>
> That makes email wonderfully useful, now
> doesn't it... A new timesaver from Microsoft.
> Just discard all your email since you can't
> safely view it under Windows.
Proper, secure Windows usage policy:
1. Don't move the mouse
2. Don't click the mouse buttons
3. Don't type anything on the keyboard.
Any others?
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:10:37 -0500
Christopher Smith wrote:
>
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8jdO5.14179$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8ubc1p$2al$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > No, you have a yes or no choice with no hint
> > > > of the correct answer. If you choose 'open'
> > > > it is up to the sender what will happen next.
> > >
> > > Then don't *choose* open.
> > > Simple, isn't it?
> >
> > That makes email wonderfully useful, now
> > doesn't it... A new timesaver from Microsoft.
> > Just discard all your email since you can't
> > safely view it under Windows.
>
> Wilful, deliberate, ignorant and just plain stupid misinterpretation of he
> said does _not_ help you in any way, it just makes you look childish.
So how would YOU interpret it, exactly?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jake Taense)
Subject: Re: This whole Indrema business...
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:14:09 GMT
In article <8ue1c9$hd1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Check this out. Been in the news recently...
>
>http://idn.indrema.com/
>
>Good thing because it'll encourage standards?
>Bad thing because it'll discourage innovation through competing
>platforms?
No point in worrying about it. That one is dead in the water. In a vicious
competitive environment like console gaming, there is no way they can win.
No name brand recognition among the gamers, except for a "linux" tag - and
gamers are going to relate linux to business apps - not entertainment.
Plus, the large majority of games for this thing are likely to be utter crap,
unless real game developers step up to the table - and they're already in bed
with the big boys like Sony and now Microsoft.
Microsoft will probably pull it off because they have nearly unlimited funds,
a proven ability to attract developers to their platform, and existing
relationships. Indrema has nothing.
The only people likely to buy this thing are linux users who want to develop
for it, or linux users who want it because of the likelihood of attaining free
open-source games for it.
Although some might buy one to tear it down and strip out the drive, memory,
etc..
>Good thing because it'll give the XBox a run for its money?
Not a chance.
>Bad thing because if it fails due to lack of market muscle, Linux's rep
>will be tainted?
I doubt it would be tainted, since linux' market strength is based on business
background serving - nobody expects it to excel as a gaming environment.
>Good thing because it's using open standards and libraries?
>
>Bad thing because it's using open standards and libraries?
>
If this thing actually gets any developers, the libraries will be the first
thing tossed out the window when the developers are looking for performance
enhancement. I doubt it would be an issue.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: We will never know what the MS intruder did
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:15:50 -0500
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:89dO5.14178$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
>
> > You know exactly why nearly every NT box is installed either running
> > on FAT or with a second copy loaded on a bootable FAT partition.
> > If you don't, there is no way to recover from any of the common
> > problems that might happen to make the NTFS filesystem unbootable.
> > Good plan, Microsoft...
>
> Name some.
> Aside from trying to install LILO, I can't think of anything that caused an
> NT to be unbootable.
Filesystem corruption, JACKASS.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:18:14 -0500
Toon Afish wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Toon Afish wrote:
> >
> > Unix has NEVER needed 3rd-party anything for remote administration.
>
> So what?
Why does Microsoft need 3rd party software for full remote administration?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?
What the fuck is wrong with Microsoft that they can't figure out
how to do this?
>
> >
> > Once again, LoseDOS is more than 17 years BEHIND unix.
> >
> >
>
> <large snip>
>
> So you admit that your initial statements were wrong? Do you also admit
> ignorance of the Windows OS in general? Nothing you've claimed has been
> true. Time to put up or shut up.
I admit that I successfully baited you into admitting the true
state of Microsoft LoseDOS.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Javaduke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft Misconceptions:
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:20:54 +1300
I will agree that not all the software included with the distribution is
GNU, however the majority of of the software in a base install is either GNU
written or released under the GNU license, however, there are some
exceptions like KDE and free commercial packages included with some ditro's.
javaduke
"Matthias Warkus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It was the Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:12:00 +1300...
> ...and Javaduke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Here are some Linux vs. Windows misconceptions:
> >
> > 1. Linux is an OS: Linux is not the total operating system. Linux,
strictly
> > speaking is only the kernel, however, when refering to the full
> > distribution, it is refered to as GNU/Linux
>
> Which is just as wrong as plain "Linux". It's neither all Linux nor
> all GNU plus Linux. A "Linux" distribution contains lots of non-GNU,
> non-Linux software (XFree and KDE, for example).
>
> mawa
> --
> - Woran erkennt man einen deutschen Physiker in einer WG?
> - Seine Bohrmaschine heißt "Niels".
------------------------------
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith T. Williams)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:24:18 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Schuck) wrote in
<tJfO5.124806$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>"Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:CZcO5.14177$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:fv4O5.124627$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> > > > Shhh! Be quiet! He doesn't know about the built-in
>> > > > Terminal Services
>> on
>> > > > Win2K...
>> > >
>> > > How many places are you allowed to have the client
>> > > without paying extra?
>> >
>> > You get two free licenses for admin. If you have Win2k
>> > Pro, you also
>have
>> a
>> > WTS license.
>> >
>> > > What if you are somewhere else?
>> >
>> > 2 anywhere for free. No restrictions.
>>
>> Does that mean I can have it loaded everywhere and only run
>> 2 at once, or would I only be able to load it on 2
>> machines?
>
>2 at once.
>
>>
>> > Plus every Win2K pro install is also a WTS license.
>>
>> Why should I want to be locked into running something
>> from only one vendor, let alone a partular version?
>
>Why anyone would want anything other than Win2k pro on their
>desktop or laptop is beyond me ... but Win2K Pro is the
>freebie WTS CAL. You can buy WTS CAL for many different
>machines.
>
>>
>> > And you can buy more licenses if you need them.
>>
>> Or, I could avoid the need by running something
>> developed for remote administration and multiple
>> platforms instead of requiring an add-on with those
>> restrictions.
>
>WTS is not an add-on. Its a service built-in to every W2K
>Server that can be activated if you need it.
>
>Big bonus!
>
>Why would you want an add-on?
>
Because if the W2K WTS is like the NT4 WTS, then you can't print
to your local printer, using RDS. Citrix Metaframe will allow
you to do this (as well as other things)
------------------------------
From: Mike Raeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Into the abyss of the WinTroll mind
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:32:02 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >If these people want help, they shouldn't be so offensive. WinTrolls
> >want to complain about Linux, but they need to grow some netiquette
> >and add an "IMHO" in their posts somewhere.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Did you fail to read the above? If not, go into a biker bar and call
the biggest biker a homo, then ask him to help you with your
oil-filtre.
> >Let's delve into the WinTroll mind-set. If they're having
> >so_much_trouble with Linux, just imagine the typical WinTroll dealing
> >with things other than Linux....
> >
> >Guns
> >WinTroll: What!?! I bought the gun, and I bought the bullets,
> >whaddaya mean I have to load the gun!?! Okay, so I loaded the gun,
> >and you know what, it ran out of bullets.
>
> Linux version: The gun comes in 200 pieces none of which works well
> with each other and you have to read 2000 pages of documentation in
> order to assemble it.
To the unclued that may be the case. You *must* be stoned everytime
you do an install. I installed Mandrake 7.0 on a laptop recently. It
autodetected everything, including a PCMCIA NIC/modem. It only took
10 minutes to install, one boot, and it was up and running on the
default install. You're just too thick to be operating a computer
(with Linux or Windows). :P
claire reading manual:
"Uhhhhh.... Type cd to change directory? What's a directory? Arrgh!
fsck it! This Linux stuff is too hard."
I'll make Linux easy for you. Anytime you login to a terminal just
type...
$> kill -9 `ps -eaux | grep $USER | awk '{print $2}'`
...and that should solve all of your problems. Repeat as often as
needed.
> >Grocery Shopping
> >WinTroll: Grocery stores are such crap. I've been going over there
> >every week for *years*. And to think that they could figure out what
> >I want, put it in my trolley, and deliver it to me.
>
> It's called a telephone. And yes here in the USA they DO deliver.
Yeah, but do they read your mind?
--
My Australian Shepherd is smarter than your honor student
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:24:26 -0500
Toon Afish wrote:
>
> Since UNIX was on the scene first, Windows did play catch up for many
> things. Rome wasn't built in a day, and all that stuff. But you would be
However....is it not better to dig the basement BEFORE decorating the tower?
> doing yourself a favor by learning the OS before posting messages and
> displaying your ignorance to the world. That must be really embarassing!
Before you go around accusing me of being ignorant on the subject, be
aware that I know the following systems.
AppleOS (Apple][ systems)
TRS-80 DOS
Commodore-64
IBM VM/CMS (IBM System 370)
MS-DOS
MS Losedows 3.1
MS Losedows 3.11
MS Losedows 95
MS Losedows 98
MS Losedows NT
v7 Unix
BSD 4.2, 4.3, 4.4
Xenix
SCO Unix SVR3
Gould G/UX
IRIX
AIX
SunOs
Solaris
HP/UX
>
> Which 50 year old OS are you referring to? I admit I'm not familiar with
> many operating systems in use four years before I was born. And, since there
> were only a handful of digital computers in the world, not many people were.
> But an expert like you must have a full command of every OS every produced,
> dating back to the BOS (biological operating system) used to run the first
> computer in the 1600s. Or maybe the BOS used to run the abacus. Please.
> Enlighten us.
That's your failing. Maybe you should, like, go to a university like
I did and learn about such things.
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > You mean, that Windows is playing catchup on components that have been
> > standard throughout the industry anywhere from 10 to 50 years...?
> >
> > --
> <Self Promoting Tag Line Snipped>
> > http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
> >
> >
> > Assinine fluff snipped>
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Unix Systems Engineer
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H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith T. Williams)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:25:44 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron R. Kulkis) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Ayende Rahien wrote:
>>
>> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> > In essence, they're still clinging to an 1970's 8-bit
>> > 8080's machine
>>
>> You *really* need to update your knowledge, Aaron.
>> Unix still has buffer overflow problem.
>> No computer could be remotedly administer in the 50s.
>
>I never said that remote administration was possible in the
>1950's.
>
>However, how long did it take Microsoft to implement printer
>spooling, something that was industry standard in the 1950's?
> Not until 1995.
Where did you get that from? I was sharing printers off windows
3.1
>
>Why is that?
>
>> Windows 95 and upward can actually handle alternative
>> applications per file type.
>
>And your point is?
>
>Unix NEVER had this problem to begin with.
>
>> Windows 2000 can be remotedly administer.
>
>ONLY if you pay extra money.
>
>Unix has had this capability since the very beginning of Unix
>networking... EVEN allowing remote administration from
>NON-UNIX machines.
>
>
>> Windows 2000 can be easily made cross platform.
>
>Yeah, and I have several bridges around Manhattan for sale.
>
>>
>> You know, all those things that you keep tripping on.
>>
>> I would start in:
>>
>> www.linux.org
>> www.microsoft.com
>> www.bsd.org
>> www.learn-how-not-to-be-an-idiot.com
>> www.I-shall-be-a-troll-no-longer-.com
>
>
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