Linux-Advocacy Digest #341, Volume #27           Mon, 26 Jun 00 03:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Do not like Windows but ... (David Dorward)
  Re: slashdot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about. (R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ))
  Re: What UNIX is good for. (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: W2K BSOD's documented *not* to be hardware (Was: lack of goals. (Shane Phelps)
  Re: Processing data is bad! (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Do not like Windows but ... (Darren Winsper)
  Re: Lost Cause Theater!!! (Darren Winsper)
  Re: High School is out...here come the trolls...who can't accept the  (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Windows, Easy to Use? (Aaron Kulkis)

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:20:57 -0400



Darren Winsper wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:14:42 GMT, MK
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 24 Jun 2000 08:21:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (Darren Winsper) wrote:
> >
> > >On 23 Jun 2000 14:44:55 GMT, Henry Blaskowski
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Do you even understand how business works?  Microsoft said, if you
> > >> want our product at a discount, you have to agree to sell a copy
> > >> with every machine you sell.  You are free to buy it at full price,
> > >> or you can get it at a discount with conditions.  My grocery store
> > >> does a similar thing to me all the time, but you don't hear anyone
> > >> running around crying "monopoly".
> > >
> > >Does your grocery store have 90% of the grocery market?
> >
> > Do you know what market share does YOUR grocery have?
> 
> No, but I know it is not more than 25% of the UK market.
> 
> > Do you care?
> 
> Actually, yes.  You see, in my local area, there is *one* supermarket.
> In order to go to another, I have to drive to a different town.
> Because of this, my local supermarket can get away with being crap and
> overpriced, kind of like Microsoft.
> 
> > Does it matter to you when you consider whether
> > particular products fit your taste?
> 
> Yes.  There's nothing wrong with what my local supermarket sells, it's
> the stuff they don't sell and the fact that they have rediculous
> prices on what they do sell.
> 
> > Do you think other customers care?
> 
> Yes.  I hear lots of people complaining for another supermarket.


Wouldn't be surprised if your local supermarket is funneling significant
amount of money into overseas bank accounts for the benefit of those
on your local zoning board.

You should...check into it...or get someone who would have motivation
to check into it to do so.. (say, like, some local investigator who
would also benefit from the destruction of the local monopoly)



> 
> > Do you think that if that grocery store had 90% of grocery market and it pissed
> > its customers off, they would not migrate to those having remaining 10%?
> 
> They might, but that could mean traveling for an hour to the closest
> competition.  Do you fancy doing that each time you want to buy your
> groceries?



> 
> --
> Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
> Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
> DVD boycotts.  Are you doing your bit?
> This message was typed before a live studio audience.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:31:02 -0400



MK wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:47:41 -0500, Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >MK wrote:
> >>[A bunch of stuff about how great Microsoft is.]
> 
> >So I'm curious.  Does MK stand for Microsoft Klingon?
> 
> Ad hominem instead of response based on merit is the last
> resort of loser.

Well, you refuse to allow FACTS to penetrate your thick skull....



> 
> MK
> 
> ---
> 
> Involuntary redistribution is theft in coating of hypocrisy.

Involountary payment into a collection is theft as well.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

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From: David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do not like Windows but ...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:33:30 +0100

Mig Mig wrote:
> >    mame goes better (DOS or Windows) than Linux one
> Whats that?

MAME is an arcade machine emulator IIRC.


-- 
David Dorward
http://www.dorward.co.uk/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: slashdot
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:26:57 GMT

In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Jeff Szarka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is slashdot down YET again? As of 10:52PM eastern it seems to be.

Sun Jun 25 22:29:23 PDT 2000

slashdot still down.

Freshmeat, too.

no ping on 64.28.67.35


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From: R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:55:11 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote on Sat, 24 Jun 2000 03:05:39 GMT
> <8j18ht$2vi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> [snip]
>
> >Notepad could be compared to xedit, one of the most "bare bones"
> >text editors available for UNIX or Linux, primarily because it
> >was one of the first X11 Applications written back when programmers
> >had to code directly to Xlib (similar to coding directly to GDI
calls
> >on Windows).
> >
>
> Pedant point: Notepad on NT4 does not appear to have this limit.
> Not that it's a great editor... :-)
>
> (Of course, this illustrates Yet Another Stupidity Of Windows,
> or maybe the ix86.  Namely, the segmenting of same.  Granted,
> it was an improvement over, say, the 8080A (20 address bits
> versus 16), but the Motorola 68000 did it more intelligently. :-) )

Actually, one of the big problems with the 68000, especially
as a UNIX processor, was that it had no internal MMU.  Furthermore,
the interrupt handling made it very difficult to implement an MMU.
The early Sun/1 Workstations used two 68k processors to handle
exceptions safely.  Some machines such as the Sun2 and the Power 5/32
used the 68010 processor and an external MMU.

Ironically, the segmentation of the 8088 and 8086 were originally
intended to support Xenix, Venix, and ZDOS, all UNIX variants based
on AT&T version 6 UNIX.

It was Bill Gates who told Intel that he couldn't imagine using more
than a megabyte of RAM on the 8088.  Later he ate those words and
too many MS-DOS programs played cute arithmetic games with the
segmentation pointers that prevented the adoption of the 80286
"protected mode".

So much for Microsoft "Advancing Computer Technology".  For years,
Microsoft tried to protect it's monopoly by forcing programmers to
use "Real Mode" even when other systems such as DR-DOS were providing
fully functional "Protected Mode" services.

Linux provided working Virtual Mode back when Microsoft was still
"thunking" between Real and Protected mode.

> [snip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- but ix86 was picked by IBM, go fig
>

--
Rex Ballard - Open Source Advocate, Internet
I/T Architect, MIS Director
http://www.open4success.com
Linux - 90 million satisfied users worldwide
and growing at over 5%/month!


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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: What UNIX is good for.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:14:03 -0400



Tim Palmer wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:22:17 -0400, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Tim Palmer wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:18:06 -0400, Colin R. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Tim Palmer wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>or even a good LOGO interporator.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Oh yeah, I want Win2K just to allow kids to program in LOGO!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Brilliant!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >(IMO, one would be better off buying a used Amiga for that sort
> >> >> >of thing, or perhaps an old Mac II.
> >> >>
> >> >> But not UNIX beacause LOGO is far too advanced for UNIX!
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Logo is available for Linux. I have ucblogo-4.6-2. Now, MicroWorlds
> >> >might be a problem.
> >>
> >> Photoshop is avallable for Windows.
> >
> >
> >Why pay $700 when you can get the functional equivalent for free?
> 
> ucblogo is not the functionall equivillant of Photoshop.

First, you go off on a tangent, then you complain that the
tangent isn't pertinent to the matter at hand.

EXACTLY what kind of moron are you, mister PALMer?


> 
> >
> >
> >--
> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >Unix Systems Engineer
> >ICQ # 3056642
> >
> >H:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> >
> >A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.
> >
> >B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
> >
> >C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
> >   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
> >   that she doesn't like.
> >
> >D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> >E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> >   ...despite (D) above.
> >
> >F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
> >   response until their behavior improves.
> >
> >G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> >   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

------------------------------

From: Shane Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: W2K BSOD's documented *not* to be hardware (Was: lack of goals.
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:03:52 +1000



"Colin R. Day" wrote:
> 
> Tim Palmer wrote:
> 

> > >> They sad themselves that X Windows is supposed to make UNIX look
> > >> like Microsoft Windows.
> >
> > >The X Windows System predates Microsoft Windows.
> >
> > I doute that.
> 
> Does anyone know the dates?
> 

<delurk>

Ignoring Tim's apparent utter lack of anything remotely approaching 
a clue about happenings outside Redmond:

"The X Window System ... was developed at MIT in 1984."
- X Window System User's Guide, Volume 3 for X11 R3 and R4
Valerie Quercia and Tim O'Reilly
O'Reilly & Associates 1988.

The first commercial release was in 1986, according to www.x.org

>From memory, MIT's work was concurrent with the later 
X-PARC research and Apple's Lisa work.

WARNING - I'm relying on memory now....

Apple released the Lisa and the first Mac in 1983 or 1984
(I used to know when, but it's a long time ago).
My copy of Inside Macintosh was published in 85 not long after
the Fat Mac (512k) had been released.

The Mac certainly predates M$ Windows by quite a while.
I think Windows 1.0 may have come out in 1986, around the time
X was released commercially, but hardly anybody used Windows 1.
Windows 2.0 was partly usable, but still way behind
the Mac II in 1988. Sun and HP/Apollo both had quite useful 
but expensive workstations running X11 R3 or R4 on M68k in 1988.
That was around the period of the great schism between 
AT&T / Sun on one side and HP / IBM / DEC on the other.


> >
> >
> > >Also, when did MS
> > >Windows support multiple desktops? And can you activate icons on your
> > >desktop by a single left click on a two-button mouse as you can on KDE?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Old versions of X even looked just like
> > >> Windows 3.1. Today's X looks like Windows 95. It's a bad immitation.
> > >
> > >X doesn't look like anything. It's KDE, GNOME, fvwm, Afterstep, etc,
> > >that looks like something.

I think he meant fvwm looked like Windows 3 and fvwm95 looks
like Windows 95. Hardly surprising, considering they're meant to.

He's probably never seen OSF Motif or NextStep or Open Desktop
or twm or .....

Shane Phelps
</delurk>

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Processing data is bad!
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:23:08 -0400



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 20:23:04 -0400, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Woofbert wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> > Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> > > > Suppose I say that a Porsche looks like crap....
> >> > > >
> >> > > >         What relevance is such a statement?
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > My god, could it be true?  I finally see someone else that thinks
> >> > > Porsches look like crap.  Those cars are the ugliest damn money
> >> > > guzzlers
> >> >
> >> > What do you expect from something that is a redesign of a Volkwagen
> >> > Beetle?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ever notice how the little VW Beetle NAZI-MOBILE is the cherished
> >> > posession of so many hippy-dippy liberals?
> >>
> >> Ahhhh. Guilt by association. That's a good debate trick. I'll have to
> >> remember that one.
> >
> >THEY are the ones who go around calling everyone else Nazis.
> >And THEY are the ones who propound that the symbolism of an
> >act is more important than the act itself.
> 
>         The VW Beetle is hardly the symbol of the Nazi regime that you
>         think it is. If it were, then the Germans themselves would be
>         uptight about it.
> 
>         Whereas, the Stars & Bars is indeed (or was) the official symbol
>         of the Confederacy.
> 
> >
> >They can't have it both ways.
> >
> >If liberal Democrats they're gonna get all bent out of shape about
> >Confederate flags flying over capitols (which the SAME *DEMOCRAT*
> >PARTY put there in the first place), then they had better be
> >prepared to get the same "guilt by symbolism" shoved down
> >their throats as well.
> 
>         Are you going to start ranting about the Saturn V next?
> 

Of course not.

Just noting that those who use symbolism at every turn (i.e. radical
leftists) should be careful of what symbols they indulge in themselves.

Considering how the hippy-dippy leftists are in love with Volkwagen
Beetles, I can, by their own brand of logic, call them a bunch of
Hitler-loving Nazis.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Subject: Re: Do not like Windows but ...
Date: 26 Jun 2000 06:28:35 GMT

On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:01:08 GMT, Pedro Iglesias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>    nowadays :
> 
>    winamp is better than xmms or whatever on Linux

How?  They are practically the same feature for feature.  Of course,
there's always FreeAmp, which has a wonderful playlist system.

>    word is better than startoffice or whatever on Linux (wordperfect,
> abiword, ...)

How is it better than Wordperfect?  What does it do you that
Wordperfect does not?

>    multimedia and games are better than on Linux

I'll agree on the multimedia part, but I don't think the games
themselves are better under Windows (At least comparing the same game
on both platforms).

>    photoshop is better than GIMP (besides at Windows there are a lot of good
> ones)

Everyone says that, but nobody explains why (Other than bitching about
CYMK)...

>    mame goes better (DOS or Windows) than Linux one

That's just lame.

>    explorer is better than netscape

You'll get no argument from me, but at least Mozilla is standards
compliant.  Hell, IE can't even handle the relatively simple CSS I use.

>    eudora is better than whichever Linux program

Never used eudora.

>    outlook express is better than whatever Linux news reader

ROTLMAO!  Outlook Depressing is an absolute dog of a newsreader.  If
you want something decent, try PAN, the most controversal newsreader
you can download (The RIAA really is made up of clueless fuckwits after
all).

>    development tools are much more better under Windows

Can't really comment there, I'm not much of a developer (Yet).

>    what does remain ?

The fact that you're trolling?

>    yeah, Linux is very cheap and very stable and very secure (depends on
> administator),
> but, what to use it for nowadays that can't be done more productively under
> Windows ?

Stay up?  I had mIRC crash Windows 95 today FWIW.

-- 
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
DVD boycotts.  Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Lost Cause Theater!!!
Date: 26 Jun 2000 06:28:34 GMT

On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:46:52 GMT, Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darren Winsper wrote:

> > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 07:30:51 GMT, Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I wouldn't crosspost this message too much, if i were you. You just
> > > managed to insult about 2/3 of the world population with 3 lines of
> > > text. (Doesn't include me, but it's worrying nonetheless)
> > 
> > They didn't seem to be particually bothered at high school when they
> > forced me to pray to a God I didn't believe in during assemblies.
> 
> Phew, thank God :) i didn't have to go through that ordeal! I was at a
> public non-christian school.

Lucky you.  I remember doing "Religious Education" and thinking they
should have renamed it "Christian teachings".  I was lucky they even
skimmed through any other religions.

-- 
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
DVD boycotts.  Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: High School is out...here come the trolls...who can't accept the 
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:29:31 -0400



"Robert L." wrote:
> 
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le
> message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Robert L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote on Thu, 22 Jun 2000 01:23:39 GMT
> > <vUd45.128855$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >No, he is totally right.
> > >0.3 % of user is Linux user.
> > >
> > >OS of user that go at www.microsoft.com
> > >60% win98, win95
> > >39% win2k, winNT
> > >0.7% ( other platform)
> > >0.3% Linux.
> > >
> > >As you can see, it's at the microsoft website, they get the result.
> >
> > Well, we now know where the .3% number came from; problem is, there's
> > a slight bias, there. :-)
> >
> > I don't think "visitors of www.microsoft.com" is a representative
> > sample of all Web browsing users -- not that all users browse
> > the web, either.
> >
> > [rest snipped]
> 
> That's my point. If we put a counter on some of Linux website ( freshmeat,
> slashdot, etc... ) I think the result will be 90% of user used Linux.
> And i do think that 0.3% of Linux user go on microsoft website.

I use both, and I *NEVER* go the the Microsoft Website.

The last thing I want is to install one of their "patches", which,
given the company's history, is merely the latest set of sabotage-ware
to fuck up my currently working applications.

You see, whatever software I have on a LoseDOS machine already works
with what is on it.  The last thing I'm gonna do is let Microsoft
play around with the DLL files even more.

Heaven forbid!

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:31:57 -0400



Secretly Cruel wrote:
> 
> Henry Blaskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Do you even understand how business works?
> 
> Apparently, MS philosophy is "What the hell, what can they do to us?"


They're finding out...aren't they....


heh heh heh


> 
> ---
> Secretly Cruel (note antispam string in email address)
> 
> Your motherboard wears combat reboots

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:33:45 -0400



MK wrote:
> 
> On 25 Jun 2000 01:16:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich) wrote:
> 
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:47:41 -0500, Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>wrote:
> >
> >>>MK wrote:
> >>>>[A bunch of stuff about how great Microsoft is.]
> >>>So I'm curious.  Does MK stand for Microsoft Klingon?
> >>Ad hominem instead of response based on merit is the last
> >>resort of loser.
> >
> >       "Microsoft Klingon" is funny!!!!!
> 
> Petrich reveals immaturity.

Yes, but what does that have to do with the fact that, you do, in fact
act like what you are accused of being?


..re: Microsoft Klingon.


> 
> >
> >       But if I was in his place, I'd ask how much money I was making
> >off of M$ as a result of my effusive praise of it.
> 
> None. And to respond to your predictable objection, fuck you and whether you
> believe that or not.
> 
> I could very well ask how much money you get from Sun or Novell -- but
> I really don't think they would want to pay the retard you are.
> 
> MK
> 
> ---
> 
> Involuntary redistribution is theft in coating of hypocrisy.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:34:21 -0400



MK wrote:
> 
> On 25 Jun 2000 01:16:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich) wrote:
> 
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:47:41 -0500, Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>wrote:
> >
> >>>MK wrote:
> >>>>[A bunch of stuff about how great Microsoft is.]
> >>>So I'm curious.  Does MK stand for Microsoft Klingon?
> >>Ad hominem instead of response based on merit is the last
> >>resort of loser.
> >
> >       "Microsoft Klingon" is funny!!!!!
> 
> Petrich reveals immaturity.
> 
> >
> >       But if I was in his place, I'd ask how much money I was making
> >off of M$ as a result of my effusive praise of it.
> 
> None. And to respond to your predictable objection, fuck you and whether you
> believe that or not.
> 
> I could very well ask how much money you get from Sun or Novell -- but
> I really don't think they would want to pay the retard you are.

Patrich is an Apple fan.

But that's besides the point.


> 
> MK
> 
> ---
> 
> Involuntary redistribution is theft in coating of hypocrisy.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows, Easy to Use?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:37:18 -0400



Martijn Bruns wrote:
> 
> TimL schreef:
> >
> > Ah, another loveley afternoon dealing with a Windows Protection Fault.
> 
> A reboot didn't make it go away? :-)
> 
> > Does Windows give any indication as to why? No.
> 
> Yes, it does! There are lots of hex-addresses below it!
> 
> > Does Windows let you see what the OS is loading as it loads? No.
> 
> Try C:\bootlog.txt. Have fun. :-)

No wonder it's such a dog.

The stupid OS tries to load EVERY SINGLE FONT at boot time..
God, how fucking STUPID.

I wonder, was the programmer who came up with that shit a 
sophomore, or a junior at Redmond High School?

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

------------------------------


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