Linux-Advocacy Digest #541, Volume #27 Sat, 8 Jul 00 19:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Do not like Windows but ... ("Colin R. Day")
Warning! -- SONY SUBSTANDARD SERVICE! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform (Roger)
Re: Corel Does Nothing To Help The Linux Cause ("Colin R. Day")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Bevyn Quiding")
Re: Corel Does Nothing To Help The Linux Cause ("Colin R. Day")
Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome! (Russ Allbery)
Re: Corel Does Nothing To Help The Linux Cause ("Colin R. Day")
Re: Warning! -- SONY SUBSTANDARD SERVICE! (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: It's not Commie to dethrone kings ("Colin R. Day")
Re: Tholen digest, volume 2451719.328^-.00000000000006 (Eric Bennett)
Re: Linux lags behind Windows ("Colin R. Day")
Re: Warning! -- SONY SUBSTANDARD SERVICE! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Running Linsux on a Compaq? Good luck!!! ("Colin R. Day")
Re: ## HOT ## Microsoft software for Linux ("Colin R. Day")
Re: ## HOT ## Microsoft software for Linux (Dowe Keller)
Re: Thorne digest, volume 2451734 (EdWIN)
Re: Windows lags behind Linux (Gary Hallock)
Re: booting stops when trying to mount partitions. ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Running Linsux on a Compaq? Good luck!!! (Gary Hallock)
Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome! (T. Max Devlin)
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do not like Windows but ...
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:15:05 -0400
Mike Marion wrote:
> > >No. Word only has more features, that's all.
> >
> > ...witch makes it better.
>
> Oh no! We've learned the secret of Word: it uses Witchcraft... we're
> all screwed.
>
Don't worry, Mike. It's still buggy Microsoft Witchcraft. With any luck,
Bill Gates will turn himself into a newt.
Colin Day
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Warning! -- SONY SUBSTANDARD SERVICE!
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:18:16 GMT
Anyone considering the purchase of a Sony peripheral for their computer
might want to give it some further thought. There clearly is not a
reciprocal relationship between what they sell and what they service.
-
I purchased a CD-RW drive back in April that just recently went bad
(won't read). When I called Sony service, I was told that I could not
get a replacement and that I had to ship it across the country to be
"repaired" (and we all know what that means...) - with a three (3) week
turnaround. Assuming that they keep their 3-week commitment, with
shipping both ways, I'd be without the use of the unit for at least
five weeks!!!
-
I hardly think that's reasonable or fair.
-
Compare this to HP, who under the same circumstances would simply ship
you out a replacement unit and issue a call-tag for the old one.
-
Sony is a behemoth in the marketplace and as such, they have an
obligation to scale their service facilities to meet demand. To not do
so is an indication of their lack of commitment to customer satisfaction
and an unwillingness to stand behind their products.
-
Buyer be ware!
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/
/
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From: Roger <roger@.>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:23:16 GMT
On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:47:18 GMT, someone claiming to be jedi wrote:
>On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 01:44:05 GMT, Roger <roger@.> wrote:
>>On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:01:16 GMT, someone claiming to be jedi wrote:
>>> It merely won't second guess the hardware, or the user.
>>Nor does Windows, if the hardware supports being taken * out * of PnP
>>mode.
> This does not occur in actual practice as I have explicitly stated.
No, you described a situation where two specific cards seemed to have
been taken out of PnP mode and still had problems. There are others
which did not. The difference? The * hardware * involved. Just as I
have been saying.
> You just chose to make weak excuses.
And you chose to ignore reality.
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Does Nothing To Help The Linux Cause
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:25:29 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:05:07 -0400, Colin R. Day wrote:
> >
> > I've watched wine for a long time and I'm just not convinced that it's
> > ever, ever going to provide complete binary compatibility. It's having
> > a hard enough time just getting source compatibility right.
>
> Same here, but don't despair, in the long run it will have perfect software
> and binary compatibility. Of course that is after windows is a dead product
> and so is nolonger a moving target and they have enough time to the
> undocumented behaviour of the secret API's. ;-)
>
> In the mean time don't you think the people over at Microsoft are also
> watching wine and taking actions to make sure that it continues to have
> compatibility problems. That is what they did with Digital Research.
Ture, but Microsoft cannot do so with impunity. Even aside from antitrust
action, such breaking of compatibility could irritate Microsoft's customers.
Colin Day
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From: "Bevyn Quiding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 09:26:46 +1200
Daniel Johnson wrote in message
<8iI75.2911$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Java has some strong points, but the portability Sun claims
>for it is simply not real. It is if anything *less* portable than
>C++.
Java the byte code in and of itself is not portable at all it is
either compiled for a JVM or a specific machine.
What is portable is that a JVM can be implemented on any platform
it might run hideously or very well depending on the JVM
implementation and the platform underneath.
What allows this is that java dosen't call anything outside the defined
JVM limits.
>But Java is a language with some *real* merits. It is just that
>portability is not one of them; Java has not done anything new
>on this front, and the problem remains as intractable as ever.
pure portablility is impossible the languages that come closest
are all interpreted at run-time.
>But Java is simpler and cleaner than C++ while oftering
>many of the same features; it offers additional features like
>garbage collection, dynamic class loading, and reflection.
>And it offers a more predictable machine model than C++
>does.
>
>(Note that the latter point actually works *against* portability;
>Java is difficult to port to machines which don't support 32
>bit words well, for instance, where C++ can handle it.)
Wel the way c and c++ handles it is a bit of a hack.
>I don't think having "Microsoft Java" and "Unix Java" and
>"Mac Java" is less than ideal; I think it's the best we can
>hope for, and I think that it's unfortunate that Sun
>stands in the way of this development.
i don't understand this.
in a sense we already have java macos, java windows java os/2,
java linux etc. as there are JVM's implemented on these platforms.
However if by this you think java should have specific calls that only
relate to one
platform. Then I think you are more than slightly wrongheaded about it.
no languages that im aware of have these limitations finding compilers
though
can be annoying.
Also this removes the abstractedness of the java package which is it's true
reason
for being without it is pointless there are already mainstream languages
that to
everything that java does but don't have its runtime structure.
Bevyn
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Does Nothing To Help The Linux Cause
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:26:44 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Colin R. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps, but I haven't heard of that kind of educational software being
> > ported.
> >
>
> What?!? Most of the educational software that runs under Windows got it
> start in the PC world as Dos applications and were latter ported to Windows.
> Many of them got their start in the days of 8-bit microcomputers and they
> were ported between the various systems of the day. Then their best
> implementation on the TRS-80, PET, Atari, VIC 20, Apple ][ or the platform
> of your choice were ported to the PC running DOS. Long after they could
> have been ported to Windows the were still being maintained as DOS apps. It
> wasn't until Dos was nolonger available as a sepperate product that many of
> them were ported to Windows.
>
> Back then people were using the same arguments against porting of these and
> other apps to WIndows as you are using to argue against porting them to
> Linux.
I'm not against porting such apps, I just haven't heard of any such apps
being ported.
Colin Day
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From: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome!
Date: 08 Jul 2000 14:28:56 -0700
In gnu.misc.discuss, Chris Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Wrong. The BSD-type license made it easier for Mircosoft to rip-off the
> Kerberos source code. GPL'ld code would have made Microthief's efforts
> much more difficult as well as being more expensive.
The actual facts of the situation do not seem to support this unless you
have some additional inside information that I've not heard even from the
Kerberos developers.
Again, MS reimplemented Kerberos from an open standard. It would not
surprise me if their lawyers were unwilling to allow use of *any* external
source code regardless of the license, but in any case they do not appear
to have made use of the existing source base in any significant fashion.
The license that source base is covered by is therefore irrelevant to what
they did.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Does Nothing To Help The Linux Cause
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:31:32 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Colin R. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
> >
> >
> > As do we all. But do you expect Davidson to port Reader Rabbit to Linux?
> > Or Mindscape to port Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing?
>
> Your argument here is very weak. Those apps have been ported before to
> survive. The Rabbit series of educational software and Mavis Beacon Teaches
> Typing started out with the PC as Dos applications. When they saw the way
> the wind was blowing they ported them to Windows, what would stop them from
> porting them again.
>
Are DOS and Windows closer to each other than Linux and Windows?
Besides, the ISV's had to see that Windows would be dominant.
>
> > Or Romtech to port Universe Explorer? Or Living Language Multimedia
> > to port Triple Play Japanese?
>
> Why not?
I don't know the economics of porting software, but I haven't seen such ports
yet.
>
>
> > Or Microsoft to port Encarta or Office?
>
> Except for pride, in the long run, why not? The core apps of MS Office did
> start out as Dos apps and were latter ported to Windows.
>
But in a sufficiently long run, wine would work.
>
> The history of the industry argues against your position.
>
Could you be more specific?
>
> > Getting applications and users is a chicken-or-egg problem, and
> > Wine is one way to attack it.
>
> Wine is a good stop gap measure but should not be considered a final
> solution for Linux applications.
>
I agree. Native apps would be better.
Colin Day
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Warning! -- SONY SUBSTANDARD SERVICE!
Date: 8 Jul 2000 21:38:40 GMT
On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:18:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This idiot has been spamming several newsgroups. I suggest reporting them to
their ISP if anyone can trace it.
FWIW, I've purchased a 19" monitor from SOny and am 100% satisfied --
with both the quality of the product and the service.
--
Donovan
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It's not Commie to dethrone kings
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:43:43 -0400
Tim Palmer wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:47:50 -0400, Laura Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I just had to say that. :)
> >
> >(I'm now dual-booting Win98 SE and Definite Linux 7.0)
> >
> >--
> >Laura Goodwin
> >
> >"Pain is fleeting, glory is forever.
> >Remember: scars are sexy."
>
> Oh, but it is commy to dethrown king's.
No, it's only commie to dethrone tsars.
Colin Day
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From: Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tholen digest, volume 2451719.328^-.00000000000006
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:47:57 -0400
In article <65D95.23896$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Eric Bennett writes:
>
> >>>>> Say what you will about Dave's picture on his web site, but
> >>>>> he doesn't look like a very blubbery fellow to me.
>
> >>>> Consider your own picture, Eric.
>
> >>> Yes, I would guess that I have a good deal more blubber than you do.
>
> >> I was thinking of something else, Eric.
>
> > ....
>
> Note: no response.
I see you failed to locate the response below.
> >> That doesn't explain your other, shall we say, "features", Eric.
>
> > Expecting people to read your mind again?
>
> Not at all, Eric. You do have other features, don't you?
I might.
> > You mean whatever that thing was in my mouth?
>
> Not necessarily, Eric.
Expecting people to read your mind again?
> > I doubt a shark would care about that.
>
> What you doubt is irrelevant, Eric.
Not in this case, as sharks are part of the discussion.
> > That picture is probably about 8 years old,
>
> And you haven't matured since then.
Actually I have probably gotten worse. :)
> > and one person who just met me last fall saw that picture and
> > said it doesn't look anything like me today.
>
> What one person said is irrelevant, Eric.
That depends on who the person is.
> > I disagree, but I'll offer a more recent picture and you can
> > decide for yourself:
> > http://arginine.chem.cornell.edu/GroupMembers/emb.html
>
> I would have to see you in person to reach a decision, Eric.
Then how do you know that what you refer to as the other features in the
photograph on my web site have anything to do with what I look like at
all? Maybe that picture isn't even me?
> > Of course, that picture does not have quite the same entertainment
> > value.
>
> To whom, Eric?
Certain people I know.
> >>> Although perhaps it's equally cold if you spend enough time high up
> >>> on top of mountains at telescope facilities.
>
> >> I do, which is why your reasoning falls flat on its face, Eric.
>
> > Actually it doesn't, because that just means you probably have to buy a
> > thicker coat than I do.
>
> Then why would you resort to the use of the word "probably"?
Because I'm not certain. You might never step outside, and thus not
need a coat. You could drive from sea level to the mountain, and park
your vehicle in a heated garage.
> > In any event this possibility also explains why I put a smiley next to
> > my remark.
>
> So you could say something you don't really mean?
I could say something with multiple possible meanings and not mean the
literal meaning.
> > What is the typical temperature difference between sea level
> > and the mountaintops out there?
>
> You mean you haven't learned about the abiabatic lapse rate yet?
> Shame.
I did at one point, but I don't recall the numbers, and I also don't
know whether it would be different over the ocean or on an island in the
middle of the ocean. The temperature could also be affected by volcanic
heat depending on which mountains you are on. A real measurement
provided by somebody who has been up there would be more accurate.
--
Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ )
Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux lags behind Windows
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:48:39 -0400
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you don't like being insulted, then stop displaying your ignorance
> > on usenet.
>
> Please explain my ignorance.
Your failure to realize that Linux is superior to any Microsoft OS.
>
>
> I make the statement "Linux lags behind Windows" based on what I've
> observed. Please explain how that equates to ignorance.
>
Because you can't read an HCL.
Colin Day
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Warning! -- SONY SUBSTANDARD SERVICE!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:57:18 GMT
Has it broken?
Did you have to get it serviced by Sony?
Have you actually had to use Sony Customer service?
BTW I didn't realize this message was spammed across the entire
usenet.
I agree, it is not good to do this.
DP
On 8 Jul 2000 21:38:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:18:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>This idiot has been spamming several newsgroups. I suggest reporting them to
>their ISP if anyone can trace it.
>
>FWIW, I've purchased a 19" monitor from SOny and am 100% satisfied --
>with both the quality of the product and the service.
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running Linsux on a Compaq? Good luck!!!
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:15:26 -0400
Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > The topic of his articles always seem to be based around problems he has
> > > with Linux. His Corel Office review was a classic.
>
> How is a problem with Corel Office a problem with Linux?
>
> Hint: The Linux port of Corel Office runs on an *emulator layer*, and
> it's crap.
Wine is an emulation layer?
Colin Day
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.best,alt.linux.sucks,be.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ## HOT ## Microsoft software for Linux
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:19:22 -0400
Alex DeLarge wrote:
> CyberSurfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > HOT! HOT!
> >
> > I found Microsoft software for Linux.
> > Its a network time tool.
> > File is attached!
>
> Please don't post attachments in a non-binary group. A url would've been
> fine. Microsoft actually do quite a bit for linux/unix, including Internet
> Explorer - I've seen it on unix, has anyone got it running on linux?
As far as I know, the only UNIX IE has been ported to is Solaris (Sparc).
You could try running it under wine, but the results will probably not be
that impressive.
Colin Day
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Subject: Re: ## HOT ## Microsoft software for Linux
From: Dowe Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Jul 2000 15:26:32 -0700
"Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Alex DeLarge wrote:
> As far as I know, the only UNIX IE has been ported to is Solaris (Sparc).
> You could try running it under wine, but the results will probably not be
> that impressive.
Somewhere, I think I heared they had an SCO port.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
This is the theory that Jack built.
This is the flaw that lay in the theory that Jack built.
This is the palpable verbal haze that hid the flaw that lay in...
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Subject: Re: Thorne digest, volume 2451734
From: EdWIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:31:25 -0700
The Tholenator tholed:
>Today's Thorne digest:
Prove it, if you think you can.
>1> The Tholenator tholed:
>
>1> Incorrect.
Note: no reponse.
>1> On what basis do you make this claim?
>
>Witness your response.
Unnecessary.
>Or do you often respond without looking, Thorne?
Illogical.
>That could explain why you don't see the proof that I keep
>providing.
Typical erroneous and unsubstantiated claim.
>1> Balderdash.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Balderdash.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Balderdash. Are you taking posting lessons from
Eric "Master
>1> of Balderdash" Bennett again? How typical.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Prove it, if you think you can.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Incorrect.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Irrelevant.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Don't you know?
I see you failed to answer the question, Dave. No surprise
there.
>1> Prove it, if you think you can.
Note: no reponse.
>1> What you know is irrelevant, what you can prove is relevant.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Balderdash.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Prove it, if you think you can.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Balderdash.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Incorrect.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Irrelevant.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Don't you know?
I see you failed to answer the question, Dave. No surprise
there.
>1> Balderdash.
Note: no reponse.
>1> What you know is irrelevant, what you can prove is relevant.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Balderdash.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Prove it, if you think you can.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Balderdash.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Prove it, if you think you can.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Typical erroneous and unsubstantiated claim.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Meanwhile, where is your logical argument?
I see you failed to answer the question, Dave. No surprise
there.
>1> Why, nowhere to be seen!
>On the contrary,
Incorrect.
> I've presented the evidence several times
You're erroneously presupposing the existence of "several times."
> now for
>your flagrant alteration of what I wrote, Thorne.
Prove it, if you think you can.
>1> You're erroneously presupposing the existence of an answer.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Illogical. Are you taking illogic lessons from Joe "Master
of
>1> Illogic" Malloy again? How typical.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Open your eyes, Dave.
Note: no reponse.
>1> You're erroneously presupposing the existence of "it."
Note: no reponse.
>1> Prove it, if you think you can.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Irrelevant.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Incorrect.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Incorrect.
Note: no reponse.
>1> Prove it, if you think you can.
>
>Already did that, Thorne.
Incorrect. Are you taking incorrectness lessons from
Joe "Master of Incorrectness" Malloy again? How typical.
>1> I see you failed to answer the question. No surprise there.
>1> Are you taking posting lessons from Eric "Master of Failing
to
>1> Answer Questions" Bennett again? How typical.
>
Note: no reponse.
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:36:41 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows lags behind Linux
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> As I said in another post, much more than game hardware.
>
> Besides, the business I'm in, we care about 3D video cards. Although we
> care more about 3D sound - something Linux does not have support for as
> yet.
>
> Pete
And in the business I am in, we don't give a damn about 3D sound. We do
care about being able to run on many different platforms so we can use the
best platform for the particular job and yet have ease of switching
between platforms. We sometimes need to run on a laptop. Sometimes on
an S/390. Sometimes on an RS/6000. Sometimes on an SP2. And it sure
would be nice to be able to run my apps on an ASCI White. Oh, I forgot
- my apps CAN run on an ASCI White already. Linux combined with AIX
make that possible. I can't do that with Windows. Therefore Windows
lags behind Linux.
Gary
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: booting stops when trying to mount partitions.
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:37:41 -0500
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
[] Hi all,
[]
[] I cannot boot linux anymore because I did something I should not have.
[]
[] I changed fstab to get access to a windows partition. Then I changed
[] mtab as well. I tried to shutdown and reboot. It would not shutdown
[] because it could not unmount partitions. (I probably should not have
[] changed mtab). So I rebooted violently pressing the reboot button.
[] Now it starts to boot up and stops after mounting root system. Then it
[] does nothing. I cannot boot with a boot floppy disc because it has been
[] damaged.
[] I was running Linux Mandrake 6.0.
[] Can anybody help me?
[] Thanks.
Can you boot in to single user mode? If so, do that, then edit
/etc/fstab. Or use a boot disk, then:
mount /dev/hda2 ( or whatever your root slice is ) /mnt
and edit /mnt/etc/fstab.
anm
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Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:40:21 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running Linsux on a Compaq? Good luck!!!
"Colin R. Day" wrote:
>
>
> Wine is an emulation layer?
>
> Colin Day
No, though a common misconception. Wine is an implementation of the Windows
API, not an emulator.
Gary
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome!
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:46:59 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting Leslie Mikesell from comp.os.linux.advocacy; 7 Jul 2000 00:09:32
[...]
>>The reason for the GPL restriction is simply to avoid the
>>plagerism of calling the GPL code your own.
>
>No it isn't.
Could you inform us as to your reasoning?
>>If you use GPL
>>source inside your own source, you can't easily make the two
>>have seperate licensing terms: "Okay, lines 1-40 of main.c
>>are under GPL, lines 41-44 are not, lines 45-120 are under
>>GPL, and lines 121-154 are not, ..." That just can't work.
>
>Note that the restrictions apply just the same if you
>link to libraries where the copyright and license terms
>are clear and simple.
>
>>If you take great care to make sure your own code is well
>>walled-off from the GPL code, for example by making it be
>>a seperate executable with seperate source files, then it
>>isn't a "derived work" and you then only need to openly
>>redistribute the GPL parts, not your own. When you start
>>inserting your own code in the midst of the GPL code, then
>>there is no good practical way to keep the credit for the
>>two parts separate.
>
>How about linking to shared libraries, or any form of
>separate distributions where the user does the link
>and maintains a clear separation of ownership? This meets
>the requirements you mention, but not the political
>ends of the FSF.
Perhaps I've made a mistake, or don't understand precisely what you mean
by "the user does the link". If you write code which calls shared GPL
libraries that you are not distributing, then your code is not limited
by the GPL; is this correct? From Jedi's specific implication that you
can even distribute the libraries, and don't even need to open your
code. Does this mean you can't combine them in the same package, Jedi?
--
T. Max Devlin
Manager of Research & Educational Services
Managed Services
ELTRAX Technology Services Group
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