Linux-Advocacy Digest #989, Volume #27 Wed, 26 Jul 00 14:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another one ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Tinman digest, volume 2451736 (Tholen) (tholenbot)
Re: No wonder Hackers love Linux (Byron A Jeff)
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lars_Tr=E4ger?=)
Re: Tinman digest, volume 2451736 (Tholen) (tholenbot)
Re: No wonder Hackers love Linux (Steve)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another one
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:58:09 -0400
"Mark S. Bilk" wrote:
>
> Don't miss the special feature at the end of this article --
> DejaNews search URLs for all the people in Kulkis' signature!
> Surprise -- they're a lot nicer and smarter than he is!
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
> >>...
>
> >Oh, and you STILL have failed to mention even a SINGLE philosophical
> >difference between yourself and the Communist party. It's been over
> >a week and 5 different requests.
>
> That's because the question doesn't deserve an answer.
>
> Hey, Kulkis, are you still having sex with your mother?
>
> >We're waiting for your closet-dictator answer, fatboy.
>
> *And* with your father?
>
> How do we know that Aaron Kulkis is a brainwashed moron?
> Let us count the ways:
>
> 1. Kulkis thinks that the Russian Communist leaders let go
> of their most productive colony nations, as well as the
Economics 101.
Colonialism works when you IMPORT RAW MATERIALS from your colonies
and SELL THEM THE FINISHED GOODS, making a profit on the markup.
Since Russia already HAS every raw material under the sun, they
were EXPORTING RAW MATERIALS and IMPORTING FINISHED GOODS, and
thus taking a loss on the markup.
It nearly bankrupted the country.
> entire economic and political apparatus of Communism,
> and allowed many of their number to be murdered in the
> bombardment of the parliament building by Boris Yeltsin,
> who had been approved for his position by the American
> Conservative Heritage Foundation, all as a *secret plot*
> to make America lower its guard, so that World Communism
> can eventually triumph.
>
> Note: World Communism has now narrowed its focus to a
> single goal -- invading and taking over Aaron R. Kulkis.
> To this end they have moved their headquarters and
> military forces into his bedroom closet, and established
> an advance base under his bed. They've had great success
> using their microwave lasers to make him hear voices
> in his head.
Have you been to Russia? Have you talked to the people?
NOTHING HAS CHANGED other than appearances.
>
> 2. Kulkis thinks that women are innately inferior to men in
> the areas of intelligence required for science and engi-
How about Deborah Tannen. Her research indicates the exact
same thing, and she has no association
Wrong fucking wrong. THE MAJORITY of women do not have brains
that are not as adept at manipulating abstract geometric shapes
and processes as compared to men's brains, in the same way that
the MAJORITY of men have brains that are not as adapt at language
skills and processes as compare to women's brains.
Holding a contrary opinion is to deny reality.
> neering, and cites as his evidence the book "The Bell
> Curve", which is based on "research" paid for by the
> racist Pioneer Fund, the American organization whose
> ideas on the "natural superiority" of the "White Race"
> were borrowed by Adolf Hitler and formed the basis of
> Nazi racism.
Ad Homineim attacks will get you nowhere
>
> 3. Kulkis thinks that democracy will best be served if
I don't give a fuck about democracy.
Democracy is 6 wolves and 2 lambs voting on what to have for dinner.
> wealthy people can pay for as many political campaign
> advertisements and other contributions as they want.
> This is called "One dollar -- one vote", or more simply,
> legalized political bribery and corruption.
So, let me get this straight...you're saying that the votes cast by
YOU and all of your co-workers will be in the exact same proportion
as how much each candidate spends on campaign advertising?
YOU automatically vote for the candidate who spends the most?
Or do you vote for the candidate who presents the clearest reason
for YOU to vote for him or her?
>
> For example, the tobacco industry gives Conservative
> politicians -- almost all of them Republicans -- many
Wrong. The majority of the tobacco growing states have been
Democrat controlled for over a century.
> millions of dollars every year, and those politicians
> always vote to let that industry continue to murder
> people for profit, even after they've killed 25,000,000
> Americans in the last 50 years.
>
> Conservative answer: "We're protecting people's freedom."
We preserve the rights of stupid people to do stupid things,
if they so choose.
People thought Galileo was stupid for believing that the earth
and the planets revolve around the sun. Turns out the "stupid"
guy was right.
>
> Actual meaning: "By our actions in the government, we're
> protecting the freedom of wealthy people to gouge money
> out of everyone else by any means they choose, even
> showing sexy advertisements to entice kids into using
> the most lethal addictive drug known, which will cause
> a third of them to lose 25 years off their life. In
> return for casting our votes in the Senate and House
> to make this possible, *we* get a cut of the profits!"
Considering that the TOBACCO SUBSIDIES WERE ENACTED BY THE
GODDAMN DEMOCRATS, I fail to understand your complaint with
the Republican party.
>
> 4. Kulkis posts about 50 articles a day to the newsgroup
> comp.os.linux.advocacy, most of them one-liners surround-
> ed by the entire unedited text of the parent article.
Get over me, obsession-boy
>
> 5. Kulkis appends to all his articles the most asinine,
> bloated, paranoid signature in the history of Usenet,
> which he insists on using even after being told not to
> by lots of people, including some of the main contribu-
> tors to c.o.l.a.
get over me, obsession-boy
>
> And now -- here are the good folks on Kulkis' enemies list!
> It's become all too clear why he has enemies: he's an obnox-
> ious, spamming, blowhard, paranoid, Right-wing jerk.
Wrong. I'm a libertarian. I find right-wingers (Fascists) as
repugnant as left-wingers (Communists).
>
> But... he's also stupid enough to tell us the names of some
> of the many other people who refuse to take his crap.
>
> Welcome Comrades!
Says it all, really.
You can always spot the true closet dicatators...they're the ones
who come out of the woodwork and engage in character assasination
anytime somebody criticizes Communism, or points at particular
large-scale psychological operations by the Communists.
>
> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >Unix Systems Engineer
>
> >B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
>
> Dutton is certainly on the mark regarding Kulkis:
>
> DejaNews power search: auth= jim & dutton keyword= kulkis
>
>http://deja.com/=dnc/[ST_rn=ps]/qs.xp?ST=PS&QRY=kulkis&defaultOp=AND&DBS=1&OP=dnquery.xp&LNG=ALL&authors=jim+%26+dutton&showsort=date&maxhits=100
>
> >C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
> > sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
> > that she doesn't like.
> >D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
> >E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (D) above.
>
> From what I've read so far, Jet is an intelligent and per-
> sonable woman. That's probably why Kulkis devotes 8 lines
> total to her in his .sig -- the others get only one or two.
> Kulkis hates women who aren't subservient to men.
>
> DejaNews power search: auth= jet keyword= kulkis
>
>http://deja.com/=dnc/[ST_rn=ps]/qs.xp?ST=PS&QRY=kulkis&defaultOp=AND&DBS=1&OP=dnquery.xp&LNG=ALL&authors=jet&showsort=date&maxhits=100
>
> >G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> Unit* is a spam-hunter and SubGenius with a large website:
>
> DejaNews power search: auth= unit* keyword= kulkis
>
>http://deja.com/=dnc/[ST_rn=ps]/qs.xp?ST=PS&QRY=kulkis&defaultOp=AND&DBS=1&OP=dnquery.xp&LNG=ALL&authors=unit*&showsort=date&maxhits=100
>
> >H: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> Not at all. However, he does inhabit alt.tasteless, which
> is as the name implies (it's an acquired taste, not for the
> easily offended).
>
> DejaNews power search: auth= knackos* keyword= kulkis
>
>http://deja.com/=dnc/[ST_rn=ps]/qs.xp?ST=PS&QRY=kulkis&defaultOp=AND&DBS=1&OP=dnquery.xp&LNG=ALL&authors=knackos*&showsort=date&maxhits=100
>
> This search brings up only two articles (but, as with all
> the others, you can leave out the keyword=kulkis to see more).
> One of them makes a very good point regarding Kulkis:
>
> }HEY FUCKING UNIX SYSTEMS ENGINEER, WHERE D'YA GET THAT
> }QUALIFICATION ? Did it come in a pack of cereal ? I'm asking
Purdue University
> }because anyone who so blatantly breaks one of the simple rules
> }of e-mail and usenet - 4 line .sigfile, MAX ! - would have
... from the days of 300 baud modems and 20 Megabyte disks.
> }quickly been branded and banished from the brotherhood.
> }
> }Oh, I get it, you have never touched a Unix system, you just put
> }that in your .sig hoping to impress. Sorry buddy but it's
> }transparently clear that you ain't got a clue.
You keep telling yourself that.
>
> Amen, brother!
You too.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:01:25 -0400
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Steve wrote:
>
> >> The robber barons want H1-B visa employees at slave wages...
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Spot the contradiction.
>
> >You cannot get an H1-B sponsorship approved UNLESS you demonstrate that
> >you are going to pay the new hire a salary GREATER THAN the
> >50th Percentile of other workers in that job classification.
>
> All the employers have to do is create some new job
> classification for the purpose of evading that regulation.
Please explain how one invents a new job classification for
Database Administrator or Systems Administrator...
Come on, this should be interesting.
> --
> Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: tholenbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tinman digest, volume 2451736 (Tholen)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:08:48 -0400
In article <Hnwf5.59$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Slava Pestov"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> tholenbot wrote, quoting Timan and Slava Pestov time and
> >> >> >> >> >> again:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> [never mind what he wrote, shouldn't we pass the
> >> >> >> >> >> hat around to buy him a long-sleeved pajama top, though?]
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Leave those two young people to their budding tryst, you
> >> >> >> >> >> miserable bot with a thpeech impediment!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Typical invective.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I see no invective here.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Predictable, given your reading comprehension problems.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The only thing that is predictable is your continued
> >> >> >> unsubstantiated claims.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Illogical.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Your unsubstantiated claims are indeed illogical.
> >> >
> >> > You erroneously presuppose that my claims are "unsubstantiated".
> >>
> >> What is so erronous about my presupposition, Eric?
> >
> > Self-evident.
>
> Impossible. Of course, if you had used the scientific method, you
> would've recognized that fact.
How ironic, coming from someone who failed to use the scientific method.
> >> >> >> >> > How predictable, coming from one of the antagonists.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I see no antagonist here.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > See above.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Proof by irrelevant reference, eh Eric?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Obviously not.
> >> >>
> >> >> Proof by proclamation, eh Eric?
> >> >
> >> > Obviously not.
> >>
> >> Evidence, please.
> >
> > Self-evident.
>
> The only thing that is self-evident is your repeated use of proof by
> proclamation and proof by irrelevant reference, Eric.
What alleged "irrelevant reference"? Typical unsubstantiated and
erroenous claim.
> >> >> >> >> Gearing up to lose another argument, eh Eric? How
> >> >> >> >> predictable.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > You erroneously presuppose that I could lose "another"
> >> >> >> > argument.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Are you implying that you have already lost all possible
> >> >> >> arguments?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Obviously not.
> >> >>
> >> >> Proof by proclamation, eh Eric?
> >> >
> >> > Obviously not.
> >>
> >> Evidence, please.
> >
> > Self-evident.
>
> See above.
See above.
> >> >> > Meanwhile, where is you logical argument? Why, nowhere to be
> >> >> > seen!
> >> >>
> >> >> How ironic you attempted to answer your own question, but failed to
> >> >> do so correctly.
> >> >
> >> > Incorrect.
> >>
> >> On the contrary, quite correct. Of course, anyone with decent reading
> >> comprehension skills would recognize that fact.
> >
> > Evidence, please.
>
> The evidence is that the answer you gave to your own question is
> incorrect.
I see you failed to comprehend the answer. No surprise there.
> >> > Meanwhile, you still fail to present a logical argument.
> >>
> >> How ironic.
> >
> > Evidence, please.
>
> You accuse me of not providing a logical argument, when you are in fact
> the one who has not provided one. Hence the irony.
You are basing your claim on an incorrect premise. Still taking
argument lessons from Eric "Master of Erroneous Presupposition" Bennett,
Slava?
--
Prove that African swallows are non-migratory, if you think you can.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: No wonder Hackers love Linux
Date: 26 Jul 2000 13:09:25 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-Just installed Mandrake 7.1 with medium security
-setting and install option of everything.
-
-Port 21 ftp WIDE OPEN.
-
-Port 23 telnet WIDE OPEN
-
-Port 110 pop3 WIDE OPEN
-
-Port 113 ident Wide open....
-
-Not to mention all of the other security holes due
-to inetd running every service known to mankind.
-
-Windows 98 se with ICS installed closes all of
-those ports and several are in stealth mode.
-
-No wonder the script kiddies seems to love
-Linsux.....
-
-Typical newbie will install it with defaults and
-be hacked within a couple of hours.
-
-
-BTW SuSE 6.4, Install Everything did somewhat
-better in that only ports 80 and 113 were open.
-
-I only checked via www.grc.com which does not
-check all ports.
-
-God only knows what else is wide open.....
Steven,
You may be just a bit hasty in your generalization.
www.grc.com shows all of my ports as open also. However I have my tcpd daemon
configured (via /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny config files) to only
allow certain IPs to have actual access.
An open port that doesn't have a server attached or denys certain IPs
isn't much of a security risk.
BAJ
-
-Steven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lars_Tr=E4ger?=)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:06:53 +0200
John W. Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lars Träger wrote:
> >
> > Slava Pestov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The rendering job dying is irrelevant. Software crashes, and that's a
> > > fact... and, you still haven't given *one* valid reason why CMT is
> > > better than PMT.
> >
> > What does crashing software have to do with CMT vs. PMT?
>
> The scope of the crash.
>
> CMT is usually implemented in a way that requires limited process
> protection (though not always, of course), so the end result is that CMT
> systems are more likely to crash when a process goes down.
I thought we were discussing buzzwords, not implementations ;-)
Apart from the PMT systems that never pretended to have protected
memory, there always is Win9x (and the increased stability of theMacOS
against crashing apps despite *not* having prot.mem.) to show that we
should keep crashing out of the discussion about PMT vs. CMT.
Lars T.
------------------------------
From: tholenbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tinman digest, volume 2451736 (Tholen)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:16:12 -0400
In article <Rwwf5.61$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Slava Pestov"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Another unsubstantiated claim.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Check the archive, Slava.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> The burden of archive checking is yours, tinman. You made
> >> >> >> >> >> the unsubstantiated claim.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > How ironic, coming from someone who makes unsubstantiated
> >> >> >> >> > claims without
> >> >> >> >> > checking archives.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> How ironic you allege that my claims are 'unsubstantiated'
> >> >> >> >> when you have just made one yourself.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Illogical.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Balderdash.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Typical pontification.
> >> >>
> >> >> How ironic.
> >> >
> >> > See what I mean?
> >>
> >> Not unless you mean to dig yourself deeper into that hole, Eric.
> >
> > Impossible.
>
> Comprehend context, Eric.
The context is your entertainment, Slava. I comprehend it perfectly, as
my above comment demonstrates.
> >> >> >> > I have not made one of your claims.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Correct, but irrelevant, given that I never claimed you did.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Incorrect, Slava.
> >> >>
> >> >> Prove it, if you think you can.
> >> >
> >> > You already proved it, by making the claim.
> >>
> >> What alleged "claim"?
> >
> > Don't you know?
>
> Illogical. If I knew, I wouldn't ask.
You admit that you don't know? The claim whose existence you question
was part of this discussion. Haven't you been paying attention?
> > It's your claim.
>
> What alleged "claim"?
Haven't you been paying attention?
> Prove that this fact exists, if you think you can.
What alleged "fact" am I allegedly suppose to prove, Slava?
> Don't forget to use
> the scientific method.
Of what relevance is this remark?
> >> >> Remember to use the scientific method.
> >> >
> >> > Of what relevance is this remark?
> >>
> >> Don't you know?
> >
> > Why do you think I asked?
>
> I have no idea why you asked.
Obviously you are not using the scientific method. How predictable.
> Expecting people to read your mind again,
> Eric?
See what I mean?
> >> >> >> > Still having reading comprehension problems, Slava?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> See what I mean?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Illogical.
> >> >>
> >> >> On the contrary, you simply failed to recognize the logic.
> >> >
> >> > There was no logic to recognize, Slava.
> >>
> >> How typical, coming from someone who routinely fails to recognize
> >> logic.
> >
> > Evidence, please.
>
> It's throughout your posts, Eric.
Then you will have no problem providing a concrete example?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> What alleged "Tholen emissions"?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > The ones that result from digestion,
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I see no evidence of "digestion" here.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > More evidence of your reading comprehension problems.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Incorrect, given that neither I nor tinman are currently
> >> >> >> >> being
> >> >> >> >> digested.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > See what I mean?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, but your meaning is incorrect, thus it is irrelevant.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > See what I mean?
> >> >>
> >> >> See above.
> >> >
> >> > Typical circular reasoning.
> >>
> >> Incorrect.
> >
> > On the contrary.
>
> Typical pontification.
I see you didn't address the point. No surprise there.
> >> > Ineffective.
> >>
> >> Yet another unsubstantiated claim. Trying to set a record for
> >> unsubstantiated claims in a single post, eh Eric?
> >
> > How ironic.
>
> Still unable to answer a simple question logically, Eric?
On what premise do you base this question?
> >> > Meanwhile, where is your logical argument?
> >>
> >> "Meanwhile"? How rich!
> >
> > Non sequitur.
>
> What is this? "Latin 101"?
Don't you know?
> >> > Why, nowhere to be seen!
> >>
> >> On the contrary. Of course, anyone with open eyes would recognize that
> >> fact.
> >
> > How ironic.
>
> How ironic.
Your comments are indeed ironic.
> >> >> > Gearing up to lose another argument, Slava?
> >> >>
> >> >> How ironic, coming from someone who has already lost the argument.
> >> >
> >> > Illogical.
> >>
> >> On the contrary, my logical argument is quite logical.
> >
> > You presuppose that you have a logical argument.
>
> Common sense makes a cameo appearance.
Do you usually base your arguments on unproven presuppositions, Slava?
> >> > Why do you continue to argue, Slava?
> >>
> >> Don't you know?
> >
> > Why do you think I asked?
>
> I have no idea why you asked. Expecting people to read your mind again,
> Eric?
See above.
> >> >> > 0
> >> >>
> >> >> What alleged "0"?
> >> >
> >> > Ask your mentor, grasshopper.
> >>
> >> Illogical, as I have no mentor, and I am not a grasshopper.
> >
> > Comprehend context, Slava.
>
> How ironic, coming from someone who has serious context comprehension
> deficencies.
Illogical, given that the text came from me.
> >> Gearing up to lose another argument, Eric?
> >
> > Obviously not.
>
> The evidence indicates otherwise, Eric.
What alleged "evidence"?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > now that Tholen's back on CSMA.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I wonder how Dave Tholen would react to your claims
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that he's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "back on CSMA".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ask him, I'm sure he'll answer to your satisfaction.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not here for "satisfaction", tinman.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Then why are you here?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Don't you know?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I see you didn't answer the question.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The answer was self-evident, Eric.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On what basis do you make this claim?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On the basis that the answer was self-evident, Eric.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Incorrect.
> >> >>
> >> >> How ironic, coming from someone who claims I engage in
> >> >> "pontification".
> >> >
> >> > See what I mean?
> >>
> >> Not unless you mean to dig yourself deeper into that hole, Eric.
> >
> > More evidence of your reading comprehension problems.
>
> Incorrect. My logical arguments are not evidence of my "reading
> comprehension problems".
I never made such a claim, Slava. How predictable that you would resort
to making up "facts".
> >> >> >> >> > Gearing up to lose another argument, Slava?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Obviously not, Eric.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > See what I mean?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, but your meaning is incorrect, thus it is irrelevant.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Argument by repetition, Slava?
> >> >>
> >> >> How ironic, coming from someone who has already employed argument
> >> >> by
> >> >> repetition several times in their post.
> >> >
> >> > "their" post?
> >>
> >> Correct.
> >
> > Illogical.
>
> Still taking logic lessons from Pascal "master of illogic" Wang? How
> typical.
What alleged Pascal Wang?
> >> > Who are "they", Slava?
> >>
> >> I was referring to you, given that you have more than one identity I
> >> used the pural form.
> >
> > tholenbot only has one identity, Slava.
>
> Incorrect, Eric.
Prove it.
> >> >> > Ineffective.
> >> >>
> >> >> Typical unsubstantiated claim.
> >> >
> >> > Incorrect.
> >>
> >> How ironic you view your claim as 'incorrect' now that you've realised
> >> you can't substantiate it.
> >
> > Taking posting lessons from Joe Malloy again, eh Slava?
>
> Illogical, as I have never taken lessons of any kind of this alleged
> "Joe Malloy", hence I could not possibly be taking them "again". Of
> course, anyone with decent logic and relevancy skills would recognize
> that fact.
Evidence, please.
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Prove that African swallows are non-migratory, if you think you can.
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: No wonder Hackers love Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:16:52 GMT
Possibly, but every single resource I have been looking at mentions
closing those ports completely, as well as others because of the
internet security risks. I am not familiar with the how and whys, but
simply am taking the advice of several respected security sites.
I merely pointed out what a default install of 2 popular distributions
looks like to a hacker on the net trying to look in.
On 26 Jul 2000 13:09:25 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-Just installed Mandrake 7.1 with medium security
>-setting and install option of everything.
>-
>-Port 21 ftp WIDE OPEN.
>-
>-Port 23 telnet WIDE OPEN
>-
>-Port 110 pop3 WIDE OPEN
>-
>-Port 113 ident Wide open....
>-
>-Not to mention all of the other security holes due
>-to inetd running every service known to mankind.
>-
>-Windows 98 se with ICS installed closes all of
>-those ports and several are in stealth mode.
>-
>-No wonder the script kiddies seems to love
>-Linsux.....
>-
>-Typical newbie will install it with defaults and
>-be hacked within a couple of hours.
>-
>-
>-BTW SuSE 6.4, Install Everything did somewhat
>-better in that only ports 80 and 113 were open.
>-
>-I only checked via www.grc.com which does not
>-check all ports.
>-
>-God only knows what else is wide open.....
>
>Steven,
>
>You may be just a bit hasty in your generalization.
>
>www.grc.com shows all of my ports as open also. However I have my tcpd daemon
>configured (via /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny config files) to only
>allow certain IPs to have actual access.
>
>An open port that doesn't have a server attached or denys certain IPs
>isn't much of a security risk.
>
>BAJ
>-
>-Steven
>
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