Linux-Advocacy Digest #989, Volume #32 Wed, 21 Mar 01 21:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Linux @ $19.95 per month ("Interconnect")
Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism) (.)
Re: Linux @ $19.95 per month (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (.)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (Paul Hovnanian)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What is user friendly? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (.)
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:29:38 GMT
Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 21 Mar 2001 22:34:50 GMT;
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "." wrote:
>>>
>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 20 Mar 2001 23:30:32 GMT;
>>> > [...]
>>> >>> And I thought the education system in NZ was bad...
>>> >>
>>> >>It may be, but I guarantee that the united states has more shitty schools than
>>> >>any other country in the world.
>>>
>>> > More great ones, too. ;-)
>>>
>>> Thats true as well.
>
>> Not at the K-12 level.
>
>Yes, it is. Just not public schools. Private schooling is the way to go
>in the united states, but shop wisely. There may be tens of thousands of
>them, but theres a comparatively small ratio of good ones.
You have it backwards; private schools were certainly not among the ones
I was counting. I don't even really consider them "schools"; they're
generally just indoctrination facilities or the work of scam artists
bilking the rich.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:32:00 GMT
Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 21 Mar 2001
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>>
>> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 20 Mar 2001
>> >"." wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > They handled it just fine in the late 1980's.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are you saying secretaries are stupider these days?
>> >>
>> >> I'll say it.
>> >>
>> >> In fact, most people in general are stupider these days. Consider the
>> >> simplicity of the SAT tests, and then consider the fact that they had to
>> >> rescale the scores around '95 because too many people couldn't get half of
>> >> it right.
>> >>
>> >> The world must be at least 80% dumbass.
>> >
>> >And encouraging the survival of dumbasses is beneficial how, exactly?
>>
>> We wouldn't want to deprive you of your rights.
>
>It's not an infringement of rights to let a dumbass die of his/her
>own incompetance.
I thought you were talking about dumbasses. Now you've switched to
incompetence. I'll warrant that its possible you're both, but what does
that mean in terms of any beneficial results of your being a dumbass?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:38:05 GMT
Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 21 Mar 2001 22:32:57 GMT;
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 21 Mar 2001 07:45:10 GMT;
>>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> "." wrote:
>> [...]
>>>Yes yes, I know about all of these. Theres nothing in any of them lending any
>evidence
>>>in support of the theory that there are people being payed by microsoft to post FUD
>in
>>>COLA.
>>>
>>>Thats the point. Again, I would very much like to believe this, but have seen no
>evidence
>>>at all (let alone hard) of its truth.
>
>> In case you missed it, there is reasonable evidence (well, a couple
>> clues and a vague theory) that some posters are what I've called "sock
>> puppets". They aren't literally paid to post, but they nevertheless do
>> it somewhat professionally. They are professionally entangled with
>> Microsoft, often heavily, but quietly, and are managers and executives
>> of Microsoft "partners", often startups that develop a product and sell
>> themselves to MS, who then go out and do it again.
>
>Yes, drestin black was one of those. But there was still no evidence of
>actual cash or kickbacks. One can speculate all one wants, but there is
>a large difference between objective, mild speculation and the paranoid
>delusions of kulkis.
I thought I was pretty clear in pointing out that your reasoning is
wrong, your argument, flawed, and your conclusion, mistaken. No
evidence of cash or kickbacks is necessary for Kulkis's description to
be inaccurate, but far from either paranoid or delusional. Particularly
when it is noted that other examples of the more literal type of
astro-turfing have been evidenced on several occasions in the past.
I'm not saying you weren't entirely correct in pointing out to Kulkis
that he was literally mistaken; I frankly applaud your effort to do so.
Still, there's no need to reject any discussion of the issue simply
because it's more convenient to declare total victory against such a
feeble target as Aaron's words.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:39:14 GMT
Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 21 Mar 2001
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>>
>> Said Chad Everett in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:13:24
>> [...]
>> >You also need to substitute Kulkis' brain with mush in order to get Meyers.
>> >Kulkis might be pretty abrasive, but he is orders of magnitude smarter than
>> >Meyers.
>>
>> And he may be smarter, but Kulkis is orders of magnitude more abrasive.
>
>Only with those who are pathalogical liars.
Obnoxious, too.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Interconnect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux @ $19.95 per month
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:49:56 +1100
> Yes,to some. Looks like nothing more than marketing glitz. Make it
> nice and shiny.
> The natives in Panama put shiny aluminum foil in empty coconuts, bored
> the right holes in the shell, tied it to a tree. It caught monkeys and
> the funny part you can just walk up and get the monkey. The monkey is
> so greedy that he'll scream and howl but won't let loose of the shiny
> foil! Maybe MS should be renamed Monkey Soft.
>
I can relate to that. Sometimes I think the monkey is the end user. Willing
to put up with anything as long as the pretty windows, dancing paper clips
and menu animations abound.
Makes you wonder sometimes?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism)
Date: 22 Mar 2001 01:46:55 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Martin Eden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis says...
> ~snip~
>>
>>Since Mr. Everett provided an intelligent response, we can now
>>proceed.
>>
> Well by all means: don't let me keep you. Please do "proceed" Aaron. Any time
> you are ready...yawn.
> And when you finally decide to make good on your boast by astounding the rest of
> the participants of this group with the volume of UNIX knowledge you posess,
> perhaps you'd be good enough to clear up some other minor matters...
> 1. Did you actually attend the prestigious Purdue University? A colleague of
> mine can not find any record of this. (I know people who are on faculty there,
> Aaron.)
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=8c6b274e64219348&seekd=966017285#966017285
> 2. Were you a participant in the conflict between Iraq and the United Nations in
> the early 1990's? I can find no record of this anywhere. Perhaps you could tell
> us the name of your Batallion Commander, as well as the unit to which you were
> attached.
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&th=ca8e1038b9237b43&ic=1&seekd=946150056
> 3. Do you have a law degree? Before the bar of which state are you licensed to
> practice?
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=89d438b080a2047e&seekd=959412843#959412843
> 4. Do you actually believe that the power shortages in western North America are
> a plan by which the "communists" plan to sieze world domination? (I had to laugh
> at this one)
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&th=da1bd5c744a249d0&ic=1&seekd=954063914
> As nobody would know better, kook, there are many, many more lies I could bring
> up on this forum; though I think your psychosis has been lampooned enough.
> Anyone who has an interest in further kook study will find the archives at
> google most entertaining.
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Aaron+R+Kulkis&num=100&as_scoring=relevance&btnG=Google+Search&as_oq=&as_epq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&as_umsgid=&lr=&as_drrb=quick&as_qdr=&as_mind=15&as_minm=8&as_miny=2000&as_maxd=21&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2001
My my my, kulkis. He sure has gotten you there.
The honorable thing to do at this point would be to own up to all of your lies and
begin telling the truth.
You can start with that whole shared memory SMP thing if you wanna.
=====.
--
"The city's all wrapped up in plastic like an electronic cocoon;
if you lay in the street you can hear it humming"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux @ $19.95 per month
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:48:39 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Flacco
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 21 Mar 2001 04:40:23 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Pretty Ironic considering that Microsoft has never innovated ANYTHING
>> in computer technology.
>
>You're forgetting about the Win2K mouse cursor drop-shadow.
Damn.
I knew I missed *something* in one of my earlier diatribes. :-)
I'd completely forgotten about this must-have OS feature.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- don't forget the disappearing menus, either
EAC code #191 44d:10h:24m actually running Linux.
Hi. I'm a signature virus.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: 22 Mar 2001 01:48:48 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 21 Mar 2001 22:34:50 GMT;
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> "." wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 20 Mar 2001 23:30:32 GMT;
>>>> > [...]
>>>> >>> And I thought the education system in NZ was bad...
>>>> >>
>>>> >>It may be, but I guarantee that the united states has more shitty schools than
>>>> >>any other country in the world.
>>>>
>>>> > More great ones, too. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Thats true as well.
>>
>>> Not at the K-12 level.
>>
>>Yes, it is. Just not public schools. Private schooling is the way to go
>>in the united states, but shop wisely. There may be tens of thousands of
>>them, but theres a comparatively small ratio of good ones.
> You have it backwards; private schools were certainly not among the ones
> I was counting. I don't even really consider them "schools"; they're
> generally just indoctrination facilities or the work of scam artists
> bilking the rich.
Oh stop that. Such blanket statement certianly arent fair, and not all
private schools are super expensive; and many of them are quite good.
One thing to keep in mind is the number of private schools which:
A. have metal detectors and
B. have had murders take place within their walls in the last ten years
as compared to the same statistics in public schools in the united states.
=====.
--
"The city's all wrapped up in plastic like an electronic cocoon;
if you lay in the street you can hear it humming"
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From: Paul Hovnanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:07:13 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shades wrote:
>
> Can anyone imagine, let's say a CTO of a large multinational company, the
> kind Linux advocates would love say they beat MS in, jumping into one of
> these newsgroups and reading the "professionalism" expressed in this
> group(see below)? Unix people have always been touted as being this
> arrogant and narrow-minded and I have had my fair share of the
> unprofessional manner.
Usenet groups are known for hosting childish behaviour on any side
of any argument. On the other hand, nobody had to take Linus Torvalds
aside and tell him to calm down like they did with Steve Balmer.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
send spam to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==================================================================
Have a pleasant Terran revolution.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:52:14 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "." wrote:
> >>
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 21 Mar 2001 07:45:10 GMT;
> >> >>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>> "." wrote:
> >> > [...]
> >> >>Yes yes, I know about all of these. Theres nothing in any of them lending any
>evidence
> >> >>in support of the theory that there are people being payed by microsoft to post
>FUD in
> >> >>COLA.
> >> >>
> >> >>Thats the point. Again, I would very much like to believe this, but have seen
>no evidence
> >> >>at all (let alone hard) of its truth.
> >>
> >> > In case you missed it, there is reasonable evidence (well, a couple
> >> > clues and a vague theory) that some posters are what I've called "sock
> >> > puppets". They aren't literally paid to post, but they nevertheless do
> >> > it somewhat professionally. They are professionally entangled with
> >> > Microsoft, often heavily, but quietly, and are managers and executives
> >> > of Microsoft "partners", often startups that develop a product and sell
> >> > themselves to MS, who then go out and do it again.
> >>
> >> Yes, drestin black was one of those. But there was still no evidence of
> >> actual cash or kickbacks. One can speculate all one wants, but there is
> >> a large difference between objective, mild speculation and the paranoid
> >> delusions of kulkis.
>
> > Todd Needleham
>
> > I rest my case.
>
> You keep saying that, but there was no evidence of his being precisely what
> you describe.
>
> You're insane and a fascist, kulkis.
Todd Needleham was a Microsoft employee who ADMITTED that he
was directed to post in comp.os.linux.advocacy.
The fact that most of what he wrote was lies and innuendo
goes without saying.
He was caught when a couple of his messages showed up with microsoft.com address.
>
> Its only by sheer chance we share the same opinions about linux. Please
> stop posting on the subject though, youre making intelligent, thoughtful
> individuals look bad.
>
You should quit criticizing those who know more than you do.
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:32:54 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chad Everett wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:10:13 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >WesTralia wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ian Pulsford wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > PS. My money is actually on Kulkis being a sad little git with too much
> >> >> > time on his hands. Read the posts on groups.google.com (especially
> >> >> > us.military.army) and decide for yourself. The word liar crops up way
> >> >> > too much.
> >> >>
> >> >> Aaron is not hard to figure out. It's quite simple really. Aaron
> >> >> is a Wintendo98 network dork who has been repeatedly bashed by the
> >> >> UNIX guys for years. Finally, Aaron has set out to do something about
> >> >> this treatment and he has installed Linux on his home system. Aaron's
> >> >> target objective is the source of his envy: to be just like the UNIX
> >> >> guys who have bashed him for being a Wintendo98 network dork.
> >> >>
> >> >> The only problem is that Aaron jumped the gun early and is still a
> >> >> Wintendo98 network dork.
> >> >>
> >> >> Aaron, there is no shame in using Windows, no shame at all.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >You wanna discuss Unix kernal internals sometime?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Sure. Why was the McKusick-Karels algorithm a significant improvement over
> >> the power-of-two allocator? What is the biggest drawback that both of
> >> them have?
>
> > Before we do....
>
> > Tell us what the McKusick-Karels algorithm is, and in what way it differs
> > from the power-of-two allocator.
>
> Ouch, bad feign, kulkis. Seriously bad feign. You just lost about 100
> points.
>
False premise.
I want to see if Chad is merely throw around obscure terms, or if he,
in fact, does understand what he's talking about.
> And as far as its effect in terms of shared memory multiprocs (fewer and fewer
> of which exist these days; at least on platforms that give a shit about the sorts
> of operating systems which are capable of its utilization), there are better
> solutions than both, right now, this minute.
>
> > I have no interest in starting a conversation with a moron who is
> > just throwing out terms which he himself has not the slightest understanding.
>
> You are coming close to suggesting that you didnt know a damn thing about the topic
> in the first place.
No...I'm merely making sure that the response isn't merely a ploy to
goad me into a pointless exercise which does nothing other than waste
my time.
>
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:53:34 -0500
Nik Simpson wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Nik Simpson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And after 1.5 hours, you had exactly how many applications installed?
> > > >
> > > Exactly the ones I needed, Office, a graphics editor, browser, mail,
> > > database, perl, UNIX emulator etc. etc.
> >
> > assuming 10 minutes per application plus intervening reboots, I
> > sincerely doubt that you could get such a long list of applications
> > installed in a mere 90 minutes.
> >
>
> Aaron, you are just displaying your ignorance (yes, I know it's what you do
> best). There are at most two reboots during the installation of W2K, and all
> the applications I installed required a total of one reboot. It may surprise
> you to know that if application "X" says to reboot after install, that
> doesn't mean you can't install applications "Y" & "Z" before performing the
> reboot.
Forgive me for not laying out the cash so as to subject myself to the latest
torture devices from Mafia$oft.
>
> --
> Nik Simpson
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: 22 Mar 2001 01:53:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 21 Mar 2001 22:32:57 GMT;
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 21 Mar 2001 07:45:10 GMT;
>>>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> "." wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>Yes yes, I know about all of these. Theres nothing in any of them lending any
>evidence
>>>>in support of the theory that there are people being payed by microsoft to post
>FUD in
>>>>COLA.
>>>>
>>>>Thats the point. Again, I would very much like to believe this, but have seen no
>evidence
>>>>at all (let alone hard) of its truth.
>>
>>> In case you missed it, there is reasonable evidence (well, a couple
>>> clues and a vague theory) that some posters are what I've called "sock
>>> puppets". They aren't literally paid to post, but they nevertheless do
>>> it somewhat professionally. They are professionally entangled with
>>> Microsoft, often heavily, but quietly, and are managers and executives
>>> of Microsoft "partners", often startups that develop a product and sell
>>> themselves to MS, who then go out and do it again.
>>
>>Yes, drestin black was one of those. But there was still no evidence of
>>actual cash or kickbacks. One can speculate all one wants, but there is
>>a large difference between objective, mild speculation and the paranoid
>>delusions of kulkis.
> I thought I was pretty clear in pointing out that your reasoning is
> wrong, your argument, flawed, and your conclusion, mistaken. No
> evidence of cash or kickbacks is necessary for Kulkis's description to
> be inaccurate, but far from either paranoid or delusional. Particularly
> when it is noted that other examples of the more literal type of
> astro-turfing have been evidenced on several occasions in the past.
Of course. But when taken along with his other psychotic ramblings, its
easy to understand his thought process, which is this:
Real World--->kulkis brain--- | | | --->kulkis perception--
--
-
HUGE LEAP
--- | | |
=====>kulkis argument
His arguments are all entirely invalid by way of insanity, clearly.
> I'm not saying you weren't entirely correct in pointing out to Kulkis
> that he was literally mistaken; I frankly applaud your effort to do so.
> Still, there's no need to reject any discussion of the issue simply
> because it's more convenient to declare total victory against such a
> feeble target as Aaron's words.
Ah, but I was trying very hard NOT to reject any discussion of the issue;
thats why I continually asked for hard evidence.
Again, I want very badly to believe that there are people on COLA which
are paid by microsoft to spread FUD. But im not going to believe it simply
because one extremist weirdo says its true.
=====.
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if you lay in the street you can hear it humming"
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