Linux-Advocacy Digest #280, Volume #28 Mon, 7 Aug 00 10:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Star Office to be open sourced (Phillip Fayers)
Re: Good Free VCD/DVD Player & Questions about the "mount /cdrom" (Steve Maughan)
Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome! (Isaac)
Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome! (Lee Hollaar)
Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake? (John Hasler)
Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!! (Bob Hauck)
Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!! (Bob Hauck)
Re: Which distribution (Bob Hauck)
Re: Star Office to be open sourced (Robert Bonomi)
Re: Aaron-Kulkis-Style Conspiracy about Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Fayers)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Star Office to be open sourced
Date: 7 Aug 2000 11:12:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Stump) writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>You do your make install --prefix=/usr/local; so files get put into
>>/usr/local/etc, /usr/local/bin, and various /usr/local/man directories.
>>How will a simple rm -fr help in this case?
>configure --prefix=/usr/local/cvs-1.10.8...
>rm -rf /usr/local/cvs-1.10.8
>Works nicely.
>From there, I can:
>for d in bin man/man1 lib; do cd /usr/local/$d && for i in ../cvs-1.10.8/$d/*; do ln
>-i -s $i .; done; done
Or you can use the `depot' or `opt_depot' packages which automate this
sort of thing, namely using a series of package directories which are
then linked in /usr/local/{bin,lib,...} or wherever you want.
--
Phillip Fayers, SunAdmin/Support/Programming/Postmaster/Webmaster(TM)
Dept of Physics & Astronomy, University of Wales, College of Cardiff.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Attribute these comments to me, not UWCC.
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From: Steve Maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Good Free VCD/DVD Player & Questions about the "mount /cdrom"
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:14:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Daniel Kasak wrote:
> Yeah, it has one, and you have to mount it to play the stuff. I haven't
> yet worked out how to copy (backup of course) one either. I've found a
> couple of VCD filesystem creation tools, but they all seem to require
> more intelligence / effort than I can muster.
It's actually quite easy - I wanted to do the same with my Matrix VCD -
it's on two cd's and the split is right in the middle of the morpheus vs
neo fight scene, so I wanted to copy them to my hard drive, splice them
together, and get rid of the horribly-placed split.
I ended up using mtvp (the MpegTV decoder engine) with vcdkutter. Just
run vcdkutter like this "vcdkutter -vcd destfile.dat | /dev/null" (I think
- it's been a while since I've used it), select "copy", "start" and it'll
copy the vcd to "destfile.dat", which is just a mpeg file. This is the
only way i've found to get around the copy-protection scheme on most
VideoCD's.
--
Steve Maughan
Don't run away from your problems...
Riding is much faster.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Isaac)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome!
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:15:41 GMT
On 6 Aug 2000 18:52:17 GMT, Lee Hollaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>So what? Please state how you feel copyright law applies to these
>situations, indicating the sections of the Copyright Act of 1978,
>as amended, that you feel apply.
In Leslie's defense, in each of the places you pointed out deviations
from reality, Leslie was himself pointing out those problems. I
think his analysis was fairly good.
Isaac
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Hollaar)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome!
Date: 7 Aug 2000 12:40:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Isaac) writes:
>On 6 Aug 2000 18:52:17 GMT, Lee Hollaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>So what? Please state how you feel copyright law applies to these
>>situations, indicating the sections of the Copyright Act of 1978,
>>as amended, that you feel apply.
>
>In Leslie's defense, in each of the places you pointed out deviations
>from reality, Leslie was himself pointing out those problems. I
>think his analysis was fairly good.
You snipped what I was saying "So what?" to. Here it is --
What if unrelated
web pages load different modules to create the same circumstance.
In this case there may be no actual dependency between the
two modules, yet they become loaded into the same memory
address space.
Again, what's the point relative to copyright law?
We have enough "deviations from reality" from TMax. We don't need to
accept his theory that something can be a derivative work of something
that has yet to be written and then try to give him equally nonsense
counterexamples.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Changing LILO in Mandrake?
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:07:42 GMT
Tim Palmer writes:
> And you half to restart LILO. So mutch for never having to reboot.
Ruuning Lilo does not involve rebooting. You just type 'lilo' as root and
Lilo reads its configuration file, writes out a new MBR, and returns.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!!
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:01:18 GMT
On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:58:32 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pete Goodwin wrote:
>> My SB16 didn't work, first time.
>sonny, the detection of your hardware is dependent on the distribution
>you intend to install and what kernel is being installed. I have
>I have Caldera eDesktop and it detected my TNT2 Card and SB16 with out
>any problems.
I have an original SB16 (with jumpers). I just installed eDesktop on
the machine with that card due to a hard disk failure (a Cyrix 133 box
with a 1 GB disk almost as old as the SB16). Lizard detected the card
but did not get the IRQ or DMA settings right. OTOH, it was a trivial
thing to edit /etc/modules.conf and plug in the correct parameters and
since I have to set the jumpers in the first place it isn't a big deal
IMO.
So, while your point about distros being different is valid, it would
appear that Pete is probably telling the truth about his SB16. He had
the newer PnP model I think, in which case he would need to use the
isapnp tools to configure it (on eDesktop at least), which is more work
than the Windows method is when it works. A key phrase, that.
This is the kind of thing that requires the vendors to step up and
start providing support. And that is starting to happen, but the
consumer stuff does lag a bit due to the preception that Linux is for
servers. For a system built with the idea of running Linux this is not
a serious problem as there are plenty of things that *do* work. This
is not significantly different than the situation with W2K or NT, which
also lack support for many low-end consumer peripherals. And Linux
competes with W2K and NT, not with Win98, again IMO.
>> If you mean Microsoft Office, the text moves around it. Your problem?
In Word 97, the default settings for inserting a graphic often leave the
text underneath the graphic, or not flowed correctly unless you do a
lot of fiddling, depending on which flow style you select. And
sometimes it decides that it needs to move all of your graphics to the
front or back of the document (this usually happens on long and complex
documents).
Turning off "float over text" fixes these nasties, but leaves one
wondering why having that on is the default in the first place.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!!
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:04:52 GMT
On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 09:43:59 GMT, Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But i have an AWE64. This is an ISAPnP card too. It always works the
>first time. And if it doesn't (redhat), 'sndconfig' will remedy that.
Most PnP cards will default to some irq and some io port. If that
happens to not conflict with anything else in the system, then you are
all set. If it _does_ conflict, then you have to use isapnp unless
your kernel has the backported pnp stuff in it.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Which distribution
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:32:49 GMT
On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:56:08 GMT, Glenn Henriksen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am reasonably well versed in the computer world, but my expertise
>lies in the Microsoft platform, programming (C++ mostly) and general
>networking (for instance TCP/IP, IPX, some routers and switches).
>Which distribution is best suited (in your opinion) for my task?
Caldera eDesktop is very easy to install in my experience and I think
comes in at about the right level of Unixness for someone of your
background. They include two JDK's (Sun and IBM), a personal finance
app (Moneydance), and StarOffice 5.1 in the box, along with the usual
selection of programming tools. The GUI admin tools (webmin and coas)
are finally getting to be pretty good as well and they do a good job of
setting up the KDE desktop out of the box.
Basically, I think Caldera is one of the more "user friendly" distros,
but probably one of the less "traditional Unixy" ones, which can be
good or bad depending on who you ask.
>What kind of machine would I need to demo a user computer with X and Star
>Office (CPU/RAM/HD)?
I've been testing SO 5.2 on a Celeron 300 with 128 MB and 8 GB. That
seems to be an acceptable setup. The P-120 with 64 MB at home is a bit
on the slow side and SO takes a while to get going (one reason we're
still using WP8 at home).
The Word|Excel|Powerpoint compatibility of SO 5.2 seems to be
excellent, although it is not perfect. Much better than 5.1 in any
case. If you like Office, you'll like SO, if you don't then you won't.
If people send you Office files, you could do a lot worse.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: bonomi@diskless. (Robert Bonomi)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Star Office to be open sourced
Date: 7 Aug 2000 13:08:40 GMT
In article <8l3k2s$lh2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes in comp.sys.sun.misc:
>|Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>|
>|> "KLH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes in comp.sys.sun.misc:
>|> |If Unix is an open technology, then how come we must call GNU/Linux a
>|> |Unix-like OS rather than an actual version of Unix?
>|>
>|> Because no one has done the work to make a Linux distribution conform
>|> completely to the Unix specifications & arranged for it to be tested and
>|> certified. (Since the Unix specifications cover more than the kernel,
>|> each distribution would have to certified seperately I believe.)
>|>
>|> See http://www.unix-systems.org/ for details on just what it takes to
>|> become "UNIX (R)".
>|
>|Actually, Linux has been certified UNIX-98 compliant (and has also
>|succefully gone through at least 2 POSIX suites).
>
>Which Linux? And why isn't it listed with the other compliant products
>on the above mentioned website? (Only Solaris & AIX are listed as being
>certified UNIX 98 compliant.)
>
Ye GODS!! Doesn't anybody know -anything- about *business* here?
That list is is those vendors who have *REGISTERED* with the trademark
owner as having compliant systems. That registration _costs_money_.
just like -licensing- the name _costs_money_.
Reed some of the other pages at the site mentioned, for 'just how much money'
it costs. EVERY YEAR.
Just because it's -not- listed there does _not_ imply that the product is
'not compliant'. It means:
The producer has NOT paid the money for registration
because (at least one of):
They don't have the money to spend on the registration.
(it's not petty cash, and it is a recurring expense)
They don't think it is 'value for the price'.
(registration w/o licensing the mark does not get you much)
They have not had the product 'certified' as compliant.
because (at least one of):
They have not had the product 'tested' for compliance
(testing is a *signficicant* cost)
The product fails the test suite.
There are versions of Linux that _have_ been 'certified', by qualified 3rd-
party testing labs as 'compliant' with the UNIX specification. HOWEVER,
those vendors have made a _business_decision_ =not= to spend the money on
registration and/or licensing the name. Presumably because they figure that
those added costs would drive the required selling price of the product above
what their primary market is willing to pay. One can find the license fees
on the web-site, with a little digging.
A good THREE YEARS ago, one of the 'package' distributors, I _believe_ it was
Caldera, _did_ have their package 'certified' by an independant testing lab.
Nearly two years ago, Linux International was looking into an 'independant'
certification of the core product -- the cost of such certification was a
significant consideration; IIRC, it was in the mid to upper five-figure range.
I have no current knowledge on if or what they're doing in this respect.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Aaron-Kulkis-Style Conspiracy about Linux
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 09:53:03 -0400
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> >> Mr. Kulkis's favorite Communist conspiracy theories make me wonder
> >> if Linux is also the result of a Communist conspiracy. Here goes:
> >> * Open source is a Communist approach toward software development, because
> >> it works by treating software as collective rather than private property
> >> with access and use fees.
> >Actually, this is called "Freedom of Association", a First Amendment
> >right that is not recognized in Communist countries.
>
> What's the relevance of that comment?
It's call evidence which contradicts your dumb-ass assertion, nit-wit.
>
> >> In fact, some elements of the open-source
> >> movement advocate collectivization of *all* software; Richard Stallman
> >> regards "software hoarders" as not much different from Kulaks.
> >Yes, Stallman is a leftist.
>
> Which only supports that conspiracy theory.
Actually, stallman's politics play no part, as he doesn't
try to push his political view on anybody.
>
> >> One problem with open-source development is how to finance it, since it
> >> cannot be financed in normal capitalist fashion. However, Communist agents
> >> of influence could be doing the financing. ...
> >Actually, a lot of the programmers do it for professional recognition
> >and social status. ...
>
> However, that is not the greatest moneymaker in the world...
Not immediately
I can name one "volounteer" programmer who is doing GREAT now.
Perhaps you have heard of Bill Joy..you know...founded Sun Microsystem.
>
> >> * Linus Torvalds is a key figure in Linux. And he comes from Finland,
> >> which is right next door to Russia. This means that Communist agents could
> >> have had an easy time recruiting a figurehead for their attempts to
> >> subvert the software industry. And they evidently made a *very* good
> >> choice.
> >Actually, Linux has been a very good demonstration of why we
> >always need FREE MARKETS that are never totally dominated by
> >any one company (which leads to right-wing socialism)
>
> That's a separate issue.
[Translation: it's too inconvenient for Loren to weasel out of,
so he's just going to ignore it.]
So, you admit I'm right.
>
> >> * Sometimes, it must be said, the Communists give themselves away.
> >> Consider Linux distributor Red Hat. Why a _red_ hat? Could they be
> >> inadvertently giving away that they are a Communist front?
> >Clever, funny even, but ... Red Hat is a publicly traded
> >company on the NASDAQ exchange.....
>
> However, according to the conspiracy theory, that's how clever
> the Communists are -- they pose as capitalists so they can subvert
> capitalism by collectivizing software and driving proper capitalist
> software companies out of business.
took a BIG old puff of the crack pipe before writing that last
remark, eh Loren?
>
> >> * Linux has made impressive advances in the server market. Success in the
> >> server market has shown the depth of the Communists' strategic thinking,
> >> because these are critical parts of computer networks, and controlling
> >> these will only help the Communists make further advances.
> >Advancing capitalism. See previous paragraph.
>
> However, according to the conspiracy theory, when the Communists
> have their OSes running on enough servers, they can then make their strike.
still guzzlin those crack fumes, eh?
>
> >> This may seem totally absurd, but this can't be much more
> >> absurd than Mr. Kulkis's conspiracy theories.
> >They aren't MY theories...they are the the observations of
> >people far more informed than you and I; namely, defectors
> >from the Soviet military and the KGB.
>
> Which disagrees with everything else written by the collapse of
> Eastern European Communism. I've discovered an Irish Times 10-year special
Who is a more relaible commentator about conditions on the moon:
A) Some guy who idolizes Jules Verne, and is just absolutely sure
that there are "little people" living on the moon... or
B) Neil Armstrong.
No more questions, yerhonor!
> on the fall of Eastern European Communism, and it gives a clear picture
> of Gorbachev refusing to implement the Brezhnev Doctrine -- and refusing
> to bail out Erich Honecker of East Germany with his troops.
>
> And that series reported that Gorbachev got only 2 percent of the
> votes for the Russian Duma -- and that the breakup of the SU was a way of
> overthrowing Gorbachev by declaring that there was no more SU for him to
> rule. And that Russia did not appreciate the Czech Republic, Hungary, and
> Poland joining NATO.
Yes, it all makes an entertaining SITCOM, doesn't it!
> --
> Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 10:03:15 -0400
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> >> People living hand to mouth have little room to invest, and there
> >> seems to be a sizable sector in the US that are distant from even
> >> _considering_ having a brokerage account.
> >You are using the same static economic model that the Democrats
> >used when they laffed at Arthur Laffer's suggestion that lowering
> >the tax rates would increase tax revenue.
> >Turns out that Laffer was correct.
>
> The Reagan Administration *RAISED* some taxes, such as payroll taxes.
>
> >I was purchasing stock at the age of 12 with money I earned
> >DELIVERING NEWSPAPERS.
Watch loren show us once again that he's either a clueless moron,
or a shill for Communist Party, USA (CPUSA):
>
> Let's see ... at the age of 15, with the stock that Mr. Kulkis
> purchased, he was able to unseat the Board of Directors of some major
> corporation.
Considering that ALL of the stockholders have the same interest
that I do...namely .... RETURN ON INVESTMENT...it's not so hard.
> --
> Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 10:03:48 -0400
Courageous wrote:
>
> > No, it's called operational security. All military organizations
> > practice such techniques...
>
> You post from work?
I post from where I damn well please.
>
> C//
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 10:06:09 -0400
Spud wrote:
>
> [snips]
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Spud wrote:
> > >
> > > [snips]
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > It's fucking trivial with Unix, however.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > question is what possible motivation could you have for
> > > > > informing the world that you're using Win98 if you're not???
> > > >
> > > > System security.
> > >
> > > Hmm. Unix security is *so* pathetic that the only viable option is to
> make
> > > the world think it's really Win98, thereby causing only Win98 attacks?
> > >
> > > Majorly weenie.
> >
> > No, it's called operational security. All military organizations
> > practice such techniques...
>
> Ah, so let me see if I have this right:
>
> 1) Your posts indicate you're running Win98.
> 2) You claim to actually be running a Unux variant.
> 3) You've said you're a military body of one sort or another, as I recall.
> 4) You imply, above, that this is standard military practice.
> 5) Reasonable supposition, based on the chain of posts: you do this sort of
> thing _from_ a military machine.
>
> Your tax dollars at work, folks. Paying for Aaron to post to advocacy
> groups. :)
I suggest you complain to
SFC Perkins,
A Company, 1-125th Infantry (Mechanized)
Detroit, Michigan
After verifying that this is my unit, you can:
Tell him that I am wasting valuable tax dollars posting
to USENET all day.
I'm sure he'll laugh in your face....MORON!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 10:06:55 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Stuart Fox wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Is it just me, or is Aaron, a confirmed MS hater posting from Windows
> 98?
> >
> > I munge the headers using SED.
> >
> > Keeps the hackers confused.
>
> jhahahahahaah - yea right, you've been posting from Win98 all along, your
> own ICQ number reveals this to us... give me a break. And why would anyone
> worry about "hackers" - isn't it the "crackers" you worry about?
Not if the "cracker" is you.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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