Linux-Advocacy Digest #669, Volume #28 Sun, 27 Aug 00 01:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Powered by LINUX (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
philosophy is better than science (Richard)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("JS/PL")
Re: Linux programmers dont live on this planet! (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Donovan
Rebbechi)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Donovan
Rebbechi)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Donovan
Rebbechi)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:57:53 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe
> Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > >The only way the government can "improve education" is to get out of
> > > > >the education business.
> > > >
> > > > The government isn't a business, and institutional education isn't a
> > > > profitable business, by definition.
> > >
> > > There are lots of private universities parents can send their children
> > > to. They are organized as nonprofit organizations. Government-run
> > > institutions are not *necessary* there. So, why should they be
> > > necessary in other areas?
> >
> > There are also private elementary and high schools which don't receive
> > government funding.
> >
> > In many cases, they provide superior education for less cost per student.
>
> They can only do that because they get to reject the more expensive
> students. Who deals with them in a privatized educational system?
>
> Mr. Kulkis will probably say we should execute them.
No... but neither should we abnormally prolong their lives.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Subject: Re: Powered by LINUX
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:05:20 GMT
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:32:43 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Your comment on Hotmail is entirely out of line. MS started the conversion
: about a month ago (not several months) and is now done (or at least so far
: completed that sites like Netcraft do not seem to ever return FreeBSD any
: more after dozens of tries). Any idea how long it takes to convert hundreds
: of servers?
They're not done yet.
[neo:jcostom](00:05am)
/home/jcostom$ telnet 216.33.240.24 80
Trying 216.33.240.24...
Connected to 216.33.240.24.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:02:45 GMT
Server: Boa/0.93.17.3
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
Connection closed by foreign host.
That IP address came directly from the login page. Look at the source
of the Hotmail login page and see for yourself.. Last time I checked,
Boa did not run on NT or even Win2k.
: Here it is, almost 4 weeks later and the conversion seems to be complete.
Not yet, obviously...
--
Jason Costomiris <>< | Technologist, geek, human.
jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org | http://www.jasons.org/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:00:01 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >Joe Ragosta wrote:
> [...]
> >> Yet I managed to get a scholarship and loans for Penn State, worked my
> >> way through school, got into graduate school at Cornell, progressed
> >> through several jobs of increasing responsibility and ended up as
> >> President of a small company where I'm making quite a lot of money
> >> (certainly far more than the level that Democrats consider wealthy,
> >> although I think their cutoff is way too low).
> >>
> >> So what part of the things you cited is impossible?
> >
> >According to Liberals....it's not fair...because...YOU SUCCEEDED!
>
> According to the liberals, he's a data point. You don't run government
> based on anecdotal evidence.
Ah yes, whenever anyone points out that the liberal "gloom and doom"
scenarios don't jive with reality, it's always the old 'anecdotal
evidence' routine.
Don't you get sick of repeating yourself so many times per day,
every time reality smacks you in the face yet again?
The plural of anecdotal evidence is DATA.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:01:41 -0400
Chad Irby wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Chad Irby wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > So, tell the name of the third-world nations that have an ICBM
> > > > capable of hitting the US -- then explain how it is that you or
> > > > anyone knows this is a threat even though all of our espionage
> > > > devices have failed to identify any such ICBM capability by a
> > > > third-world nation.
> > >
> > > Russia?
> >
> > Russia is not a 3rd world nation. Some say 2nd world, some
> > say 1st world.
>
> Look at their current financial and social situation.
>
> "Third World" is generous.
Don't try to bullshit me.
I've been in Russia on 3 occasions for a total of 45 days.
It certainly is NOT a 3rd world country.
>
> And, at the best, they're a second-world country with a compleely
> unstable political situation, poor command and control for their
> strategic missile forces, and no fairy godmothers in sight...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.gis,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: philosophy is better than science
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:10:28 GMT
Perry Pip wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:53:01 GMT,
> Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >1) if a person views other human beings merely as tools to be exploited
> > then they are a psychopath (this is the point at which bright people will
> > say to themselves "yup, businesses are psychopaths")
>
> This is not the definition of a psychopath, even in a liberal sense.
That's right; the definition of 'psychopath' is much, much broader than that.
Have you checked your DSM-III lately?
> >2) corporations view their employees as assets only and nothing matters
> > beyond the bottom line.
>
> Corporations view their employees as an investment.
Euphemism. Dressing a murderer in a clown suit doesn't make him
any less a murderer, no matter how harmless it makes him appear.
> Employees view
> thier careers as investments.
No, they don't. I do, but few people harbor an infinite well of
contempt and loathing for hierarchy and submission. And can
you guess that my attitude towards this wonderful investment
"opportunity" is one of unremitting resentment and hatred?
> Corporations do not exploit their
> employees any more than their employees exploit them.
Yet another example of your inability to comprehend natural human
language. Did you miss the significance of "as assets *ONLY*"?
Do you even know what the definition of exploitation is?
> For example,
> some guy goes to work and goofs off all day, and doesn't give a
> shit about his company as long as he gets paid. So by your definition
> of psychopath, employees are psychopaths to.
You cretin, corporations are *not* human!! Is this too much of
a glimpse into reality for your brain's ossified american indoctrination
to allow you to see?
Note that a person that screwed over other /humans/ would have to
feel absolutely no guilt or remorse over the action before they would
even be considered for the category of 'psychopath'.
> If it's GPL'd code, then the code should be available. *nix *doze and
> Mac aren't the only OS's I use.
It's Smalltalk, not a low-level language like C/C++. If people were
interested in helping they'd be welcome; but signing the next few
years of your existence to someone else's vision doesn't seem to
appeal to many. In any case, since my project is pre-alpha, unre-
leased and I'm the sole developer (Chief Architect, Chief Designer
and Chief Programmer), saying that it's under the GPL license is
more a statement of intention than anything else. I could tell you
what platform it runs on but that would give away what the project
is about <- and even saying that much is a give-away.
>>Opening your eyes to reality as it is can be disheartening.
> And who are you to tell us what is reality and what isn't. You act as
> if you are the authority.
Other people have only to open their eyes to verify what I say.
Maybe you need a brain transplant first?
> with different abstract postulates. Scientists often use math models
> to describe real world phenomena, but insist these models must be
> repeatedly verifiable by real world experimentation. Thus the crtieria
> for scientific method is experimental verification. Philosophers make
Incorrect, that's only the criterion the dominant faction of scientists
believes in. Neither Einstein nor anyone seriously interested in the
theory that used to be known as superstrings believe it. The only
reason the general population believes anything like that is because
of a brilliant PR job on the part of physicists (who are on the whole
contemptible of said population -- hey, there's a reason why there
are so many Stalinists in academia) coupled with internal politicking.
But that's the kind of shit you get when physicists have the galling
arrogance to believe they can do philosophy better than philosophers.
> presumptions about human nature and formalize ideas based on those
> presumptions using a mathematical approach. But they have no criteria
> for experimentation to back up their models. Their presumptions are as
> stupid and blatent as those conjured up by religion.
<rolleyes> and of course, this is not at all what philosophy is about.
> >Unlike you, I don't /assume/ that people are motivated by self-
> >interest and redefine the word to match people's behaviour.
>
> I haven't redefined the word. You have.
That's because you're too stupid to realize that your definition
of 'self-interest' doesn't have anything to do with what social
scientists use. But I forgot, you don't care about that since using
commonly accepted technical definitions would be "elitist"!
> >Rather, I define the word and then /verify/ whether people act
> >according to self-interest. They do not, and that is a Good Thing.
>
> You define the word in a narrow way. Others do not define it your
> way. You limit it's meaning to be 'pure selfishness", which is the
> most short sighted form of self-interest.
And you seek to define the word so broadly that it includes
EVERYTHING so long as the moron involved has some
kind of pathetic rationalization for why his actions are in
society's interest!
> "existential angst" or whatever you call it is just an excuse for your
> pessimism which is an outward manifestation of your emotional hang
> ups.
So the historical fact that 1) populations have always gone to war to
destroy increased wealth, and the technical fact that 2) we are heading
towards prosperity beyond the dreams of avarice, these things do not
bother you any, right? You're one of those people who, when confron-
ted with the observation that 100 million people have died in wars in
this century alone, just stares blankly like a slack-jawed yokel, right?
To you, people who point out that the 20th century has been the most
bloody in human history and that North America's labour situation is
*worse* than a Dickensonian world where orphans beg in the streets
(propaganda and mind control being undreamed of in his day), to you
these people have "emotional hang ups", right? Is attachment to reality
an emotional hang up or have you redefined that word too?
For the record, there's a better than even chance that we will off
humanity in the 21st century all by ourselves, not by any AIs.
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:28:20 -0400
"ZnU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> > >
> > > Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > >You have to make something like $20 to 30 K before you pay any taxes.
> > > >Meanwhile, I'm paying 50% of my income in taxes (all taxes combined).
> > > >
> > > >That's an absurd difference.
> > >
> > > Maybe from your perspective. Try living on $24,000 a year with a
> > > family
> > > of 3.
> >
> > It wouldn't be too much to ask to REFRAIN FROM HAVING KIDS THAT
> > YOU FUCKING CAN'T AFFORD, would it?
>
> I think people are pretty clear on the issue. But they have the kids
> anyway. What are you going to do? Let the kids starve?
Let's send them to your house, you love paying for them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Subject: Re: Linux programmers dont live on this planet!
Date: 27 Aug 2000 04:32:55 GMT
>For
>those of you new to Linux; "Image" now means "copy", "Server" now means
>"driver" etc.
'Image' now means 'copy'? Can you please provide an example of the context
this is used in? This is unusual.
'Server' is just as good a word for the programme as 'driver', perhaps more.
'Driver' gives the impression that it drives the device, making it work, while
'server' more accurately suggests serving the device's features up to software.
--
Marada Coeurfuege Shra'drakaii
Colony name not needed in address.
DC2.Dw Gm L280c W+ T90k Sks,wl Cma-,wbk Bsu#/fl A+++ Fr++ Nu M/ O H++ $+ Fo++
R++ Ac+ J-- S-- U? I++ V+ Q++[thoughtspeech] Tc++
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:32:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe
Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ZnU
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Marion
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Perry Pip wrote:
> > >
> > > > And you want my taxes to pay for vouchers for that shit? No way.
> > >
> > > As someone who started out in public schools, then switched to
> > > private school, I can say without a doubt that the education I got at
> > > the private school was _much_ better then I could've gotten in the
> > > public system. My parents sacrificed a lot for my sister and I (and
> > > we both let them know that we appreciate what they did) to go to
> > > private school. I have plenty of friends that went to public school
> > > that wish they could've also gone to private school and talk about
> > > how bad they were/are.
> >
> > It depends where you live. In rich suburbs, the public schools are of
> > very high quality. They're properly funded. In inner cities, they're
> > woefully underfunded, and they're horrible.
>
> You might want to check your facts.
>
> The funding level in some of those inner city schools isn't very
> different from suburban spending.
In 1992 in New York state the richest (suburban, of course) school
district spent $38,572 per student vs. $5,423 for the poorest (inner
city).
In Texas, it was $42,000 vs. $3,098.
In Illinois, it was $16,700 vs. $2,276.
> Money doesn't solve problems.
No, but good teachers, good equipment and good facilities do, and money
pays for all of that.
--
This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
occurred during shipment.
ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:33:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Eric Bennett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Courageous
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > You are a hazard to the liberatarian party. With adherents
> > > > > > > like you, it's no wonder our support is so low.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You don't understand the dynamics of multi-generational welfare
> > > > > > families, do you
> > > > >
> > > > > In fact, I do. But this is neither here nor there. As a
> > > > > progressive Libertarian, it truly pains me to see people like you
> > > > > associated with Libertarianism. There's virtually no chance of
> > > > > making political progress with publicate advocates like you, who
> > > > > don't blink at loudly esposing they'd like to see children die,
> > > > > and not considering for one moment the sensibilities of such
> > > > > statements vice the sensitivities of their audience.
> > > >
> > > > Allow me to predict his response: "This just shows that you're
> > > > afraid to speak your convictions."
> > >
> > > Dear Asshole...
> > >
> > > Do I go around making up quotes and wrongfully attributing them to
> > > you?
> > > A) Yes
> > > B) NO
> > >
> > > Now, shut up until you can at least pretend to be honest.
> >
> > "I'd rather see them [the children of mothers on welfare] starve to
> > death before they start doing damage."
>
> 4 decades of data shows that keeping them alive only allows them
> to do damage.
So you would like to see children die then.
--
This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
occurred during shipment.
ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: 27 Aug 2000 04:39:49 GMT
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:13:14 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> If you want to go on statistics alone, and make blanket assumptions based
>> on averages, I ask you this -- would you endorse a company policy that
>> dictates that African Americans shouldn't be hired due to the fact that
>> the "safe way to bet" is that they have inferior "intelligence" ( despite
>> considerable overlap of different ethnic groups ... ) Oh, I refer you to
>> your "bible" for the relevant statistics.
>
>No.
>Simply overturn the Supreme Court ruling
> that disallows IQ tests
There's nothing "simple" about overturning supreme court rulings. It's
not the kind of thing that you can just go down the street and do, you
know. Even *if* I were to accept your hypothesis to accept that congress
can overturn it, well unless you unilaterally speak for congress, it's
not an option.
Why do you duck the question and propose an irrelevant and impractical
solution in its place ?
I'll be generous and permit you to differ in opinion as to the feasability
of this -- and simply ask if you would support such a company policy, if
changing the laws on IQ tests was not an option ?
>for job placement. [Yes, Congress *CAN* overturn an SC ruling...that's
They can overturn laws, not interpretations of the laws. And they can
overturn neither the constitution nor an opinion of it.
[ snip ]
One of the Winnuts who used to hang out here had a sig that said "save the
flag, burn the constitution". Hey, perhaps you could put something short
and incisive in your sig ( as opposed to the rambling, incoherent drivel
you have at the moment )
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: 27 Aug 2000 04:41:27 GMT
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:06:49 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:06:40 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>>
>> >Actually, public education usually has the *highest* per-pupil spending
>> >[for "average" kids] while still having lousy results.
>> >
>> >Why is that?
>>
>> What do you mean by "lousy results" ? The kids in public schools probably
>> aren't as good on average,
>
>And why is that?
They're more likely to have a competitive admissions process.
--
Donovan
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:42:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > ZnU wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:35:27 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:46:55 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> -Children are already the responsibility of their
> > > > > > >> >> parents.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> And children are punished for the sins of their
> > > > > > >> >> parents?
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >Darwinism in action.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Darwinism is about "survival of the fittest", not
> > > > > > >> "survival of the fattest".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Those who can't feed themselves and their children are not
> > > > > > >fit. QED.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, you make the flawed assumption that the unfitness of
> > > > > > the parents implies the unfitness of their children.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's the safe way to bet.
> > > >
> > > > What is your justification for this?
> > >
> > > How many high academic achievers can you find in, oh,
> > >
> > > South Central LA the Cabrini Green or Robert Taylor Homes
> > > housing projects in Chicago. or any other slum of choice
> > > (including trailer parks).
> >
> > Are you saying these people are inherently inferior?
>
> Absolutely.
>
> Just as height and the color of one's hair is genetically determined,
> so is the upper limits of a person's intellectual ability.
And the upper limits of a person's intellectual ability are determined
by how rich their parents are. Or so you seem to think.
> The people living in these areas are not of sufficient intellectual
> capability to survive in life, in the same way as a midget is not
> capable of successfully competing in the National Basketball
> Association. And...just as midgets breed more midgets, mental midgets
> breed more mental midgets.
You're not making _two_ totally unjustified assumptions:
1) Those who make lots of money do so because they are genetically
superior to those who don't.
2) Intelligent children cannot be born to people of average or below
average intelligence.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: 27 Aug 2000 04:42:18 GMT
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:06:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>No.
>I don't want you being taxed for *anybody's* education.
>PARENTS should pay for their kids' education.
>
>Those who can't afford tuition shouldn't be having kids.
Unfortunately, the kids don't have any say in who "has" them.
--
Donovan
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