Linux-Advocacy Digest #709, Volume #28 Mon, 28 Aug 00 13:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: GUI vs Command Line: The useless war
Re: Just converted
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Joe R.")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Joe R.")
Re: Double standard? ("Rich C")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Joe R.")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Joe R.")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Joe R.")
Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers (Witold Wilk)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("JS/PL")
Re: Why my company will NOT use Linux (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("JS/PL")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Jason McNorton)
Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform (abraxas)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GUI vs Command Line: The useless war
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:36:09 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8odt2q$8tl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Inaccurate progress bars are a pain, but I think that one done
> accurately and with even more information would be a big plus.
> For instance, what if instead of just "% done" and "time remaining",
> it also listed the amount of files transferred, the amount of bytes
> moved and the current K/sec the transfer is moving at. I think
> that's the sort of GUI use that original poster was advocating
> and I think it's a pretty good idea.
Something like Midnight Commander does when copying/moving multiple files.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just converted
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:09:52 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Fzvq5.220$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hmm, maybe you know how i can get my ATI XPERT2000 AGP to work with Xfree?
>
> (serious Q. couldn't find anything on www.xfree.net (or what was that url
> again?)
According to ATI website, the ATI XPERT2000 AGP is based on the Rage 128 VR
chipset. XFree86 has provided accelerated support for the Rage 128 since at
least version 3.3.6 of XFree86.
Have you tried the XF86_SVGA server? That is th one that is contains the
r128 driver that supports the Rage 128.
P>S. The URL for XFree86 is that you were trying for is
http://www.xfree86.org
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From: "Joe R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:18:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> [...]
> >> >> >> I never said "he" is not real. I said "JS/PL" is not real,
> >> >> >> other
> >> >> >> than
> >> >> >> as a pseudonym.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You said "'JS/PL' isn't a real person." That's not saying that
> >> >> >he's
> >> >> >using a pseudonym.
> >> >>
> >> >> According to your interpretation, maybe. It is equivalent of
> >> >> saying
> >> >> "'John Galt' isn't a real person", in my interpretation (and since
> >> >> I'm
> >> >> the one that said it, I have slightly more say than you in its
> >> >> meaning.)
> >> >> You may note that "John Galt" has posted several times to Usenet.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Are you alleging that the posts signed JS/PL are actually written
> >> >by bogie-men or ghosts or demons or something?
> >>
> >> I'm stating, quite plainly, that I have no idea who wrote them, and
> >> have
> >> no interest in finding out. Frankly, I don't care.
> >
> >
> >That's not what you stated.
> >
> >You stated over and over that JS/PL is not a real person.
> >
> >Please answer Aaron's question. Just who or what is posting to Usenet
> >under that name if not a real person?
>
> Please read my answer. I don't care.
That's not an answer--that's an evasion.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:20:04 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"Courageous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>>
>> > Well, if you had a background in foreign policy, and the temerity to
>> > post with your real name, perhaps we might care about your belief, one
>> > way or the other.
>>
>> That's asinine.
>
>You seem deeply concerned that every should all post with what you deem to
>be a "real name". Why is this?
Because if you aren't willing to place your real identity and reputation
behind what you post, then apparently you don't have enough courage of
conviction (no pun intended) to give your words any persuasive power to
begin with.
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
Research assistance gladly accepted. --
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From: "Joe R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:19:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Ragosta wrote:
> >
> > In article <fYkq5.20221$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chad Myers"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > It's simple: FUCK THEM!
> > > >
> > > > They had their chance to avail themselves to an
> > > > education...AND THEY ****CHOSE**** not to partake.
> > >
> > > As easy as it sounds, that's not America. America was
> > > built by successful, hard-working, independant people.
> > >
> > > Up until the socialist democrats came into power, is
> > > continuing in that fashion.
> > >
> > > Now we have career welfare familys and single-parent
> > > households whose only source of income is having
> > > more children and slinging dope to buy that cadillac
> > > while their children starve (yes, I've seen this happen
> > > with my own eyes. I've seen families appear before court
> > > who wouldn't pay their bills, their children had been
> > > starving and were seized by Child Services but they had
> > > two pedigree dogs that they fed gourmet dog food to)
> > >
> > > They've created a society of incompetent, uneducated,
> > > worthless voters with which they can manipulate into
> > > voting for them every election because "those mean
> > > spirited Republicans" want to take everything away
> > > and actually make them productive and self-reliant
> > > again.
> > >
> >
> > There's an interesting case I read about in the paper today. The
> > government siezed custody of a 3 year old kid who weighed 120 lb, even
> > though the doctors said that there was no immediate threat to her
> > health. They claimed that there was no metabolic disorder (although "we
> > couldn't find a metabolic disorder" would have been more plausible).
> >
> > So what do they do for an encore? Start taking kids away from parents
> > who smoke? Start locking people up who are overweight?
> >
> > It's interesting that the Government who said that Elian should go home
> > because parents should raise their children (a sentiment I agree with)
> > was willing to take a kid away from her parents because she was
> > overweight.
>
> Obesity correlates very highly with declining IQ.
Possible, but irrelevant.
>
> In this case, the 3-year old is a "proxy" for the parent's own eating
> habits. (how much you want to bet that the parents each weigh
> at least *double* the ideal weight on the 1959 Met Life charts?)
So what it they are? I thought you were advocating that parents should
have the responsibility to bring up children as they wish with no
governmental involvement?
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From: "Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Double standard?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:16:50 -0400
Well, I don't know EXACTLY what you are referencing, but my opinion is that
OS stability is of primary importance as far as Linux is concerned. After
all, if you want an OS with a tightly integrated user interface, and you
don't care much for stability, you know right where to get one.
--
Rich C.
"Because light travels faster than sound, many people appear to be
intelligent, until you hear them speak."
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Which is more important?
>
> A user interface issue or an OS stability issue?
>
> What do you think?
>
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:22:51 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
>I've been following your posts for a little while
>Mr Devlin and must say this is quite a show of
>compassion coming from someone who in the past
>week has shown a desire to rape and kill other
>people.
>Do all rapists and killers such as yourself feel
>such empathy for innocent death?
You obviously haven't been following my posts for very long at all.
Oh, and back off the line-wrap in your reader; it makes a horrid mess of
quoted material. (Not that there's any more complete fix for quote-wrap
than there is for trolling, but we all should make an effort to maintain
some usable conventions.)
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
Research assistance gladly accepted. --
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From: "Joe R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:22:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Said Jim Richardson in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >> >On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 01:58:34 -0400,
> >> > T. Max Devlin, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> > brought forth the following words...:
> >> >
> >> >>Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >> >>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>>wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> And with that understanding, I entirely agree. Normally a large
> >> >>>> market
> >> >>>> share *can* be considered monopolization, as there is no other
> >> >>>> way
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> get large market share in a competitive market.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>That's most certainly not true.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>A large enough market share (>90% typically) can be considered a
> >> >>>monopoly.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>But to say that there's no way to get that large a share in a
> >> >>>competitive market is just plain wrong.
> >> >>
> >> >>Adam Smith says you're wrong.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Where?
> >>
> >> In The Wealth of Nations, I would suppose. It seems he argues rather
> >> persuasively that in a free market, any monopolization of commerce
> >> will
> >> be mitigated by competitive forces.
> >
> >
> >Eventually.
> >
> >But nowhere does he claim that a high market share can't occur.
> >
> >In fact, IIRC (it's been a while since I've read it), I believe he
> >specifically addresses the issue where such a large market share _can_
> >occur and what happens in the market to address it.
>
> And AFAIK, what happens is that the producer loses the large market
> share due to competitive forces, eventually.
That's true.
But you are the one who claimed that the producer couldn't get a large
market share in the first place. And then you relied on your hazy memory
of Adam Smith (whose work you haven't read) to try to support your
position.
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:26:01 -0400
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Courageous wrote:
>
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> >
> > Oooh, big words, but I hate to break it to
> > you, ...
>
> I hate to break it to you, but you're not playing
> by usenet posting ettiquette. To wit: your own addition
> to an article should be at the end and not the beginning
> of your post.
>
> C//
Oh, I am sooo sorry. At least it cant be construed as
illegal actions. And while you are nitpicking, as your
response was off topic, and not marked as such (which
I now no longer have to do since this portion of
the thread's topic has been changed by you), you also
are not following usenet posting ettiquette.
First, the whole REAL point of the post (which
totally escaped the person it was directed at)
was grow up... debate whatever the hell you want,
even fiercely... but do it in a more mature
manner. Second, thanks for your invaluable input
into the conversation.
D
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From: "Joe R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:23:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> >The funny thing is that he hasn't even read Adam Smith's writing.
>
> I said I've never read the entire text of The Wealth of Nations, not
> that I haven read Adam Smith's writing.
IOW, you read the cover sheet.
>
> >He's basing his comments on a feeling about what he thought Adam Smith
> >wrote.
>
> I'm basing my comments more on secondary references, not "what I thought
> Adam Smith wrote". What other's though, notably when "others" were
> authorities on the subject.
Hmmm. Considering that you've never provided a single secondary
reference, that claim is pretty suspect.
>
> >At one point, he argued that since Adam Smith didn't post on Usenet,
> >he'd be unable to find a reference.
> >
> >All this time I thought EdLOSE was the epitome of ignorance. Looks like
> >T. Max may put him to shame.
>
> I'll never be in your league, Joe. I just don't have the dedication to
> ignorance that you do.
True. I spend a lot of time trying to educate ignorant people like you.
Unfortunately, you're looking less and less trainable every day.
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From: "Joe R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:24:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jason McNorton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Said Chad Irby in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Said Chad Irby in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> > > >>
> > > >> >Note that the two major US sub disasters of the last half-century
> > > >> >occurred in deeper waters, and were over in a couple of seconds.
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, that's the story you heard, at least. When and where were
> > > >> they,
> > > >> precisely?
> > > >
> > > >Start with the Thresher.
> > > >
> > > >It's interesting how you know so much about submarine accidents, but
> > > >don't know about either of the two major American ones of the last
> > > >half-century...
> > >
> > > What made you think I knew anything specific about submarine
> > > accidents?
> > > I posted on emotional refutation against somebody's contention that
> > > they
> > > were, essentially, quick and painless, as I read it.
> >
> > So, IOW, you don't know what you're talking about, but you don't mind
> > spewing your feelings as if they're supposed to replace facts.
>
> This is, afterall, usenet.. It's not a court of law where you're under
> oath. Who cares if he wants to speak emotional opinions or not.
Because he somehow thinks that his emotional feelings should overrule
all the world's facts?
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From: Witold Wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:27:57 +0200
W swoim poscie napisanym do alt.microsoft.sucks w dniu Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:03:54
GMT niejaki(a) Ingemar Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED]=- twierdzi, ze...
: easy now...you cant seriosouly mean that Wintendo 95/98 would be better than
:Wintendo 2000 ;-)
Depending on what You want - speed or stability? :)
: it is a hell of a lot stable,and and a lot more configureble than Wintendo 95/98
But doesn't run even 25% as quick on that machine as m$ little elevator 9x does
;) But then, elevator series 9x crash themselves 5 minuts after start ;) 2k
doesn't BUT it runs slowly ;)
--
<---==== Witold "ManiacK" Wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ====--->
<---==== UIN 65665716.........IRC #tychy (ManiacK) ====--->
To ludzka rzecz okradac -TP S.A.- Niech laczy nas za coraz wiecej!
Last of communism on Earth - TP S.A. (Telekomunikacja Polska S.A.)
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:29:56 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >"Courageous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >>
> >> > Well, if you had a background in foreign policy, and the temerity to
> >> > post with your real name, perhaps we might care about your belief,
one
> >> > way or the other.
> >>
> >> That's asinine.
> >
> >You seem deeply concerned that every should all post with what you deem
to
> >be a "real name". Why is this?
>
> Because if you aren't willing to place your real identity and reputation
> behind what you post, then apparently you don't have enough courage of
> conviction (no pun intended) to give your words any persuasive power to
> begin with.
Okay
My real name is John Smith and the PL stands for ummm....Patent Lawyer
Are you happy? Does it look as "real" as all the others now?
I'll continue posting with JS/PL so you'll have to create a mapping or host
file "so to speak" on your computer to refer to my real name when you see
JS/PL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Subject: Re: Why my company will NOT use Linux
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:53:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>It was the Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:28:27 GMT...
>...and Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>> >South Park has been heavily edited, for example, in one episode where
>> >Cartman (I think it's Cartman) goes around shouting "Sieg heil!", this
>> >has been changed into "Wie geil!", which is a meaningful German
>> >sentence too, but a little more politically correct, and everyone gets
>> >the meaning anyway. Overall the German version of South Park is
>> >considered tolerable and well done.
>>
>> If South Park is considered tolerable, then it isn't 'well
>> done' ;-). The whole point of it is to be totally
>> intolerable. They pretty much go out of their way to piss
>> everybody off, that's what makes it fun. :-)).
>
>The quality of the translation is considered tolerable, not the show.
>The show's considered so intolerable that they don't air it before
>23:30 if I'm not mistaken.
>
Ah, then maybe they did do a good job :-).
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathaniel Jay Lee
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:56:27 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Jim Richardson in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> T. Max Devlin, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[...]
>If they are not volutary, then they are a form of involuntary servitude.
Yea, so? It isn't that involuntary; you're free to leave the country
and pay taxes somewhere else if you think the social responsibility of
Social Security is too burdensome. There's a lot about government which
is "not voluntary", by necessity.
> There's a lot more than just thee and I who would like to see SS taper off
>into nothing.
Yes, but only a small handful you are willing to write off what they
were told (falsely) was a retirement plan, because they expect that if
they don't get at least *some* of their money 'back', then it isn't
"fair". And most of them would whine unless they got a return on their
'investment', as well.
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
Research assistance gladly accepted. --
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:52:35 -0400
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Obesity correlates very highly with declining IQ.
What was that about yo mama?
I couldn't resist it.
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From: Jason McNorton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:58:40 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jason McNorton
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is, afterall, usenet.. It's not a court of law where you're under
> > oath. Who cares if he wants to speak emotional opinions or not.
>
> Because he somehow thinks that his emotional feelings should overrule
> all the world's facts?
Hey, it's a free country (well, if Bush wins. :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform
Date: 28 Aug 2000 17:00:48 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> More of a case
>> in this regard could be made against NT Server - whether it was an
>> explicit design goal or not to provide a robust and powerful platform
>> relative to the hardware investment, given what it's marketed as, it
>> should have been. Running video drivers in kernel space, and having no
>> gui-less operating mode, are arguably major design flaws for any
>> server OS.
>
> Arguably. Lots of things run in kernel space on various Unix servers.
> Linux now has a new kernel space web server. There are telnet servers that
> run in kernel space and sockets that run in kernel space.
>
Measuring 'telnet servers' and 'sockets' running in kernel space against
video drivers running in kernel space betrays your extreme inexperience
in this area. You've just argued against yourself.
>> The placement of the menus - the Windows design where they are placed
>> below the top window border is clearly an inferior design to the Mac
>> placement of the menus along the top edge of the desktop.
>
> You say this without explaining why this is "clearly superior".
>
> Actually, I believe the Mac design is clearly inferior. The apple design
> forces you to move the mouse to the top of the screen everytime you want to
> use a menu.
You are misinformed. When was the last time you used MacOS? (or read the
instructions?)
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