Linux-Advocacy Digest #959, Volume #28 Wed, 6 Sep 00 20:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: How low can they go...?
Re: How low can they go...?
Re: How low can they go...?
Re: Computer and memory ("Otto")
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
says Linux growth stagnating
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
says Linux growth stagnating (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Sun cannot use Java for their servers!! (Matt Kennel)
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Rick)
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. (Gary Hallock)
Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform ("Shocktrooper")
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. (Gary Hallock)
Re: How low can they go...?
Re: Computer and memory ("Otto")
Re: Computer and memory (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Computer and memory ("Otto")
Re: How low can they go...? (Seán Ó Donnchadha)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:03:52 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Ecrt5.902$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> IOW, if *I* were to make a player based on DeCSS they can't do shit about
> it? Or can they?
It would depend on the laws of your nation and the treaties your nation has
enter into with the U.S. to honor each others patents. Assuming you are
able to legally able to do so in your country, you may enter into some
difficulty in reguards to "exporting" the product to other nations that
would not favor you actions.
The problem with the patent issuance process in this country is that such
silly things can be patented if you find a good wording for the application
that makes it sound unique. It make no difference if your are the
originator of the invention or not, it matters if you are the first to
complete to application process.
Do you know that someone has patented the cursor that had already been in
use for around 20 years or more before issuance?
Do you know that the LZW patent was issued to a company that did not develop
it, after that
compression algorithm was already in wide spread use? That company then
sought royalities for its use which is why LZW compression was abandoned by
so many developers.
Do you know that most if not all the human gnome has been patented?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:32:48 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Msmt5.8927$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:d36t5.806$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Nope, not necessarily. They're facts as seen by a Judge who spent most
> of
> > > his time sleeping in court. And ignoring a great deal of MS evidence.
> >
> > Oh, right, like the forged video they had about IE?
>
> The Febuary 3rd, 1999 edition of the New York Times has an article titled
> "US attacks a Microsoft tape as misleading". This includes a statement by
> Jackson himself saying "I never got the impression he was trying to
falsify
> them on purpose"
>
> In the Febuary 4th, 1999 edition it states: "To straighten things out,
Judge
> Jackson agreed to let Microsoft remake the demonstration tape -- With
> Justice Department representatives monitoring the taping-- and allow them
to
> show it Thursday morning in court".
>
> And finally, in the Febuary 5th, 1999 edition, it states: "The 70 minute
> video showed James E. Allchin, a senior company executive, performing live
> tests and then looking into the camera and saying that he had proved his
> point -- that a prototype Government program intended to seperate
> Microsoft's Web browser from the Windows operating system had really done
no
> such thing." This new videotape was admitted as reliable fact.
>
> > Or their statement that it IE couldn't be removed from win98?
> > (btw, it *CAN* be done, as proven by a guy, don't remember who tho)
>
> Edward Felton, and you'll find from the evidence I just provided that his
> program does NOT remove internet explorer. It just disables it. IE can
be
> removed, but it cannot be removed without either a) breaking the machine
or
> b) replacing it with something else when key OS functions are removed.
>
> > give me one piece of "evidence" that M$ produced that was valid
>
> I just did.
What foolishness, that queston as hand was is it possible for Windows 95 to
run without Microsoft Internet Explorer. The answer is that of course it
was.
You can test the theory yourself with the only accurate objective evidence
possible. Purchase a copy of Windows 95 Retail. It has been shipped in two
media formats, floppy disk or CD-Rom.
Assuming you purchased the CD-Rom format of Windows 95 Retail, it comes with
two CD's. One is the Windows installation CD, the other is the IE
installation CD. Install the contents of the Windows installation CD. Toss
the IE installation CD in the drawer or in the trash, in short don't install
it. Does Windows 95 now run? Yes, it does. Case closed, Microsoft lied.
Assuming you purchased the Floppy disk format of Windows 95 Retail, it comes
with a number of floppies to install Windows 95. It does not come with IE
in any form. Install the WIndows 95 from the floppies. Does Windows 95 now
run? Yes, it does. Case closed, Microsoft lied.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:42:44 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Dcrt5.900$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Typical... Let's burn Redmond :)
Let's not get drastic here, their days are numbered let them pass on their
own. The writing is already on the wall, but they are not reading it.
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From: "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:12:58 GMT
"Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:xcrt5.888$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: > Then you give me a break.... most Europeans don't speak 3 to 4
languages,
: > that's just a myth. You are really pushing the envelop.
:
: I speak 3, so does everyone i know here in Belgium, and i know alot of
: people who speak 4 langauges
When you live in a country like Belgium, it's no hard to do. Your
neighboring countries are so close that you are kind of forced to speak 3
languages :). Kidding aside, I speak 3 languages also and so do most of my
friends. However, I do admit that it isn't the norm in the US. Most of the
people around here are bi-lingual, without spanish one would be kind of
dead.
:
: > : > So then it's America's fault that UK can't produce it's on steel
: > : (metaphorically
: > : > speaking)? America got the edge and surpassed the world in
technology
: > and
: > :
: > : Arrogance again?
: >
: > More like the truth...
:
: Yea right....
Arguable...
: > : Here, have a mirror
: >
: > What's the bandwidth to that mirror :)?
:
: I'm waiting for my cable connection, i live in a small town, not available
: atm :(
I've had cable for the last 2 years and love it. At work, we have five T3s
and sometimes I do forget that not everybody have this kind of connections.
I'm guilty of that and sometimes I learn it on the hard way. On my last
vacation I used a modem to access my email. One of my friends sent me a
picture of him taken at his work, normally that would be just fine. However,
to download the 2MB on the modem takes forever. I could've strangled him if
he was around when the picture was downloading. Yeah, definetly I can see
your point. That's one of the reasons why I use text format in newsgroups.
: I have no reason to complain, i speak multiple languages, i have a good &
: free health insurance, assured incomes even if i loose my job, i can buy
: just about anything i need.
Sounds like you are in great shape, good for you...
: What i am reacting against is the attitude you & chad have, you seem to
: think that the us is the centre of the world, well, guess what, there's
: nothing but magma in the centre of the world.
Although you are right about the magma thing, however US is viewed as the
center of the world in lot of countries including the Europian countries. I
should know, since I grew up there and been in the states for 16 years. I
still recall how everyone was drooling on american stuff. You know, life
style, stupid material things like cars, clothing, etc.. And let us not
forget the US God, money....
: You're just as dependant on other countries as they are on you, so what if
: most of the current tech is invented in the states, you sell it to anyone
: willing to buy it anyway.
Actually, US might even be more dependent on other countries than Europe is.
Any little change in the global economy can wreck havoc on ours. Oh well, at
least we get all of the bad news in a hurry on our T3s :).
: You guys are no worse or better then Europeans, Asians or whatever, live
: with it
No argument on that....
Otto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E.
Ballard says Linux growth stagnating
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:11:54 GMT
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:03:40 -0300, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
>
>> None of those companies have sought to acquire an essential facility
>> entangled in Linux. Troll has. The examples you have cited are nothing
>> more than corporations acting as Patrons of Free Software projects.
>
>And what precisely has Troll tried to acquire? Inquiring minds want to
Control/ownership of the means of communication between
OS and applications.
>know. Because they sure as hell didn't acquire Qt. If you are talking
>about hiring people, then I see no difference to hiring Alan Cox.
Sure it is....
Redhat doesn't peddle vendorlock. Everything they create in
terms of new interfaces is free and clear and reusable by all,
including their competitors. Alan himself doesn't work on
anything that would directly or indirectly contribute to
artificial compatibility barriers meant to enrich a particular
corporate interest.
This absence of any sort of control of interfaces (real or
imagined) is why Sun is a part of the GNOME Foundation rather
than some KDE equivalent.
--
Finding an alternative should not be like seeking out the holy grail.
That is the whole damn point of capitalism.
|||
/ | \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
says Linux growth stagnating
Date: 6 Sep 2000 23:23:04 GMT
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:12:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>website alone. Perhaps that is one of the sources of the suspicion that KDE
>is a commercial venture in one way or another.
The only suspicion I've seen that "KDE is a commercial venture" is in Max's
incoherent ramblings. Given that he has shown himself to be incapable of
doing any research for himself, I doubt he has seen the website.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Kennel)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux.sucks,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Sun cannot use Java for their servers!!
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: mbkennel@<REMOVE THE BAD DOMAIN>yahoo.spam-B-gone.com
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
:"Simon Cooke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
:news:qtFs5.48931$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
:> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> >
:> > Why should deleting a root-level *FILE* fuck up the ENTIRE FILESYSTEM.
:> >
:> > This is indicative of some INCREDIBLY, SERIOUSLY bad fucking
:> > programming.
:>
:> Ah... I missed something out -- it wasn't a temporary webpage that did the
:> damage. It was putting a "Web" there -- which meant that the directory and
:> everything below that is treated as web content. Therefore, deleting the Web
:> deletes everything in that directory and below -- which being the root of
:> the file system deletes all of Windows on 95 & 98.
:>
:> When you create the web at the root of the file system, it warns you that
:> you might not be doing something particularly smart.
:
:Exactly the point. Anyone who creats a FrontPage web at the root of their
:filesystem isn't too bright to begin with. Blaming it entirely on MS
:isn't exactly fair, anymore than blaming the people who wrote rm for
:making rm -rf /* possible.
It is OK to blame Microsoft because
1) the lack of basic file permissions and home directories and
user-id's to prevent stupidities like that
2) the notion that a directory and everything below that be treated as
web content,
and
3) deleting the "web" automatically deletes the whole tree below it.
:-Chad
--
* Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD
*
* "To chill, or to pop a cap in my dome, whoomp! there it is."
* Hamlet, Fresh Prince of Denmark.
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:31:15 -0400
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > Rick wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Joe R." wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Courageous
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > But a better thing would be to make the public schools at least as
> > > > > > > good as the private schools. I believe, perhaps naively, that this
> > > > > > > can be done; and even more naively, that it isn't simply a matter of
> > > > > > > money.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's much a matter of money; halving the class sizes requires doubling
> > > > > > the number of teachers, for example.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you believe that class size is the only thing wrong with the schools,
> > > > > of course.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is by no means the only thng wrong, but is a large part in some
> > > > areas.
> > >
> > > Please explain why the best universities in the world routinely
> > > put their students through classes where the material is taught
> > > in lectures where the class size is in the HUNDREDS.
> > >
> >
> > Generally speak, those universities attract better students. Those
> > students have learned how to learn.
>
> BINGO.
>
> Now, tell me why the public schools currently do everything they
> can to PREVENT students from learning how to learn.
>
***WE*** do not.
> >
> > > Class size has nothing to do with it...it's the brain-damaged
> > > curricula, and dumbed-down text books.
> >
> > Im sure your vast teaching experience dictates this viewpoint.
>
> Yes, I *DO* do a lot of teaching. Not in a formal classroom,
> but as a part of my work, I am constantly teaching others.
>
That is NOT the same as a full time teacher in a public school. Where
did you learn how to do lesson plans? How much FTE does you class(es)
earn? How do you serve students admitted to your class, when the
resources are already assigned? How often do you implement curricula
that has to pass Dept of Education and SACS review? What classes do you
have to take to keep your teaching license current. Do you make the
decisions on implementing lock-step or self-paced courses? Are your
classes competency or perfoarmace based, as opposed to the standard
classes?
--
Rick
* To email me remove theobvious from my address *
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Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:29:33 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E.
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
>
> I'm dumb? Gary posts 'Max is a sex offender', and you don't notice it,
> and you think *I'm* dumb?
>
Yes, you must be extremely dumb. I never posted such a thing - I'm not going
to repeat it, just reference your post, since otherwise I'm sure you'll use
that as evidence against me. Of course, now we have it on record that Max
posted such a statement. Quit lying Max.
>
> >the main point being that ignorance is not a defence against libel.
>
> The main point was to have a pretense to say "Max is a sex offender". I
> though we went over that, already.
>
Quit lying, Max.
>
> >Instead of debating this issue, you are pursuing an irrelevant line of
> >argument.
>
> This isn't a line of argument; it is the relevant truth, there is no
> debate. Gary used a pretense to say "Max is a sex offender", and you're
> trying to defend him.
>
What a total moron! You do realize that you are commiting libel right now,
don't you Max.
>
> The fact that he was doing so while chasing up a baseless charge brought
> by a dishonest person in response to my statement, which was not only
> true within the context I said it, but who's truth in that context was
> being specifically and disingenuously denied by that same dishonest
> person, is irrelevant. That is not a matter for debate, at this point.
>
> The only topic of discussion right now is the observation of the glaring
> truth that Gary used a pretense to say "Max is a sex offender."
>
Ok, that's it. I think it's time to bring a lawsuit.
>
> >>>I'm sorry about that. It is really quite simple.
> >>
> >>I'd say you're just simple, and sorry.
> >
> >Well I'd say that his reading comprehension is better than yours.
>
> And I'd say that is so obviously and patently untrue that it makes you
> as dishonest as anyone on this thread, Roberto included. It doesn't
> take a lot of reading comprehension to read the words "Max is a sex
> offender" and notice that just about an infinite number of other
> 'examples' would have sufficed quite a bit better. Particularly in
> light of the fact that I'm not at all happy about some pathetic little
> moron playing games and being cutesy about it.
>
What a moron!
Gary
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From: "Shocktrooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:29:34 GMT
"D. Spider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It appears that on Tue, 05 Sep 2000 03:41:48 GMT, in
> comp.os.linux.advocacy "Shocktrooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"D. Spider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> It appears that on Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:25:21 +1000, in
> >> comp.os.linux.advocacy "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Alan Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> According to The Wit and Wisdom of Erik Funkenbusch:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > You cannot just drag an icon to a running app on the taskbar. You drag
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Apps don't "run" on the taskbar. The taskbar is just a button bar with
> >> >> > process names. It makes no sense to drop icons on buttons.
> >> >>
> >> >> Apps don't run in Explorer. The right pane is just a directory list
> >> >> with file names. It makes no sense to drop icons on file names.
> >> >>
> >> >> I always thought you should be able to drop a file onto a task bar
> >> >> button and it should react the same as dropping it on the program name
> >> >> in explorer.
> >> >
> >> >So what should the behaviour be when I drop a file onto the Word button on
> >> >the taskbar ?
> >> >
> >> >Should it open the file in a new window ?
> >> >Should it insert the contents of the file in the currently open document ?
> >> >At the beginning or at the current cursor position ?
> >> >Should it link to the file being dropped ? At the beginning or at the
> >> >current cursor position ?
> >>
> >> The best solution would be the default behavior, i.e. the same thing
> >> as dropping it to the program name - open (in a new window.)
> >
> >Which is what it does.
>
> No, that was the whole point. It doesn't. It pops up an error message
> instead.
Did you bother to "read" the error message. It's being polite and holding yoru hand,
since you obviously can not tell the difference
between dropping a file onto an application, and dropping a file into a document.
You tell me.. if you drop a file into a document.. do you *REALLY* want the computer
to decide the placement of it?
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Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:30:45 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E.
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> Said Donovan Rebbechi in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 00:19:55 -0400, T. Max Devlin wrote:
> >>Said Donovan Rebbechi in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >>>No, I haven't accused you of being a sex offender.
> >>
> >>No, you said I was a sex offender.
> >
> >This is an outright lie.
>
> You are a sham.
>
See you in court, Max!
Gary
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:26:31 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Ecrt5.903$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It's not a question of cost, it's a question of risk. The MPAA uses
> > DVD encoding to artificially restrict access as they see fit. No
> > matter what you might offer to license their encoding, if your use
> > or intentions might in any way jeopardize their enforcement of such
> > restrictions, you will not get a license.
>
> So if i were to call them up for a licence for a closed source player for
> linux they haven't got a reason to refuse, if they do object it means they
> have *other* interrests in blocking linux
Taking a look at this URL http://www.mpaa.org/Press/default.htm
We find some comments reguarding Linux and this issue.
===============
Q. Some computer users say they only want to use DeCSS to view their DVDs on
computers that use the Linux operating system. Windows- and Macintosh-based
computers can play DVDs, so is it fair to deprive the Linux community?
A. The Linux argument is a false issue. It has always been in the interest
of the Motion Picture industry that there be as many legitimately licensed
DVD players as possible, including those using non-Windows operating
systems. However the argument that DeCSS was written for Linux players is
simply false. The De-CSS utility was written for Windows-based software, not
Linux.
Also, the development of two, separate, licensed DVD players for Linux
systems - which use the CSS system - were recently announced. Sigma Designs
(www.sigmadesigns.com) and InterVideo Inc. (www.intervideo.com) both
announced the roll-out of LICENSED, LEGAL Linux-based DVD players.
===============
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From: "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:33:24 GMT
"Nathaniel Jay Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
: >You guys are no worse or better then Europeans, Asians or whatever, live
: >with it
:
: Actually, the thing these idiots seem to have forgotten is
: that most of us (Americans, other than Native Americans,
: and even them if you go back far enough) are Europeans,
: Asians, Africans and whatever else. The US was 'founded'
: on the principles of tolerance. Yes, sometimes that
: tolerance slipped. But I would say in our 'enlightened'
: age, we ought to be able to just accept that other people
: aren't automatically 'the enemy'. We're all the same. We
: all have to put up with stupid government policies. We
: all have governments that occassionally make the right
: choice. And democracy (or is that Democracy here in the
: US) isn't the be-all end-all of human existance. It has
: its bright spots (as most governmental forms do), and it
: certainly has its ugly spots, as the morons in this forum
: clearly show on a daily basis.
Hey listen you communist moron, we are not all the same not even on the
country level, much less on the individual basis. Tell that to the Europian
countries not to handle their neighbors as enemies and stop figthing each
other. People in the US can't tolerate it anymore, cost too much to settle
their differences.
: Is my anger apparent yet? Being an American, and seeing
: other Americans try to say that 'we are superior' is
: enough to make me want to slit my wrists. But I would
: settle for them shutting up (which I know also won't
: happen).
There is nothing wrong in believing that the US is superior when compared to
other countries. Not to the level of "Uber alles Deutch", but just a healthy
national pride. Seeing what you posted make me wish that you do shut up.
Otto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:34:04 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chad Myers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 06 Sep 2000 02:35:39 GMT
<%3it5.28269$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
[snip]
>
>> (Besides, the US is behind in technology to Japan, who already has
>> Java technology -- I think -- to have two people call each other
>> on their cell phones and play whatever game takes their fancy thereon.
>> So there, Chad :-P~ :-) )
>
>I didn't say the US was the supreme almighty, you ignorant euro-twits
>always read words into everything and then bash us for it.
I'm not from Europe, in case it matters.
>
>Aren't the schools any good there in Europe? Don't they teach basic
>reading comprehension skills?
>
>Yes, Japan has many more advances than the US does. They even have
>less beuacracy in their government allowing for more widespread
>technology use without fear of government intervention.
And an economy which is a bit sickly right now. (I hope they
straighten it out at some point.)
>
>But at least our worthless government is slightly more worthful
>than your governments and at least we can have _SOME_ competition
>in our telco marketplace and we haven't socialized everything yet
>like you guys have.
>
>-Chad
>
>
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From: "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:37:20 GMT
"Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8p3aoh$art$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:
: "Darren Winsper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in
: message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: > On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 00:12:51 GMT, Chad Myers
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >
: > > How come it's always America helping out the Brits. What's the UK ever
: > > done for us but give us some mohawked punk bands?
: >
: > At least us Brits know the meaning of the term "friendly fire".
: >
: Yeah, isn't that what you did to us Kiwis at Gallipoli? :)
Actually, it wasn't.... not by the definition of the friendly fire :)
Otto
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From: Seán Ó Donnchadha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 19:43:35 -0400
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:32:48 -0700, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>What foolishness, that queston as hand was is it possible for Windows 95 to
>run without Microsoft Internet Explorer.
>
No, the question was whether IE could be removed from today's Windows
without damaging the product. The answer is no. Microsoft didn't lie.
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