Linux-Advocacy Digest #959, Volume #31 Sun, 4 Feb 01 09:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (pip)
Re: Linux is a fad? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is a fad? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (pip)
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (pip)
Re: The 130MByte text file ("Michael J. Burns")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Daza")
Re: Linux is a fad? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Yum! A new laptop screen, i thinks ill fry it! ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Aaron R Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Aaron R Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Aaron R Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is a fad? (Karel Jansens)
Re: Linux is a fad? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Tread carefully when advocating Linux & OpenS (Matthias Warkus)
Re: What do you do if your language of discussion is subverted? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Aaron R Kulkis (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
Re: Aaron R Kulkis ("--====--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Re: Aaron R Kulkis ("--====--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Re: Aaron R Kulkis (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/ (Ian Pulsford)
Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/ (Karel Jansens)
Re: Aaron R Kulkis (Karel Jansens)
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell ("Unknown Poster")
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:14:02 +0000
G3 wrote:
>
> The only reason gates has succeeded is because Apple was dumb enough to fire
> Jobs. Now that Jobs is back he is once again proving there's only one
> company in the damn industry that can come up with a NEW idea.
Hmmmm. Jobs is a God, but also a complete nutter, after he was ousted
at Apple they had their most profitable years. Also, Jobs liked the
quotation:
"Good artists copy, great artists steal", and has admitted to stealing
good ideas for integration into their products. Is this a good thing? I
think
so, but before you fire up on the innovation path you'd better read up
on your
computer history. Sure, Apple _is_ undoubtedly more innovative, but they
also have taken the _best_ ideas from other great minds. Such is life.
<flamebate>
I guess the latest new idea from Jobs was to finally give you guy's a
cd/rw?
</flamebate>
:-)
> Gates is hardly a visionary. He stole a couple good ideas who's creators
> didn't stick around long enough to fight him on it.
Gates saw what other people didn't see. Remember that when he was
starting
out he too was a small company!
>Now he has money and
> when you have money everyone and their cat will SAY your a genius but the
> fact is the guy got lucky.
Yes sure, luck. Everything that is a success is lucky, but without also
being smart (and perhaps ruthless), he would not be where he is today
(enter
the debate over if this would have been a good thing or not).
> MOST people doing what gates did would have
> ended up in Jail.
Well I won't comment on that one.
> As for Michael Dell he is an arrogant idiot. He is the same gentlemen who
> said Apple should just give the money back to the share holders and call it
> quits in 96. Since then they've given a lot of money back to the investors
> and none of it from closing its doors. Also Dell continues to run itself
> solely on the merits of INTELS success, every BAD quarter Dell has had has
> been because INTEL couldn't ship them enough high end processors, Gateway
> and Compaq have suffered the same, but have done a lot more to diversify
> their business. In 5-10 years Dell will be dead and little more than a
> memory of the "Personal Computer Era".
I don't know much about DELL, but I do know that they are a relatively
successful company and he was at the right place at the right time. He
is still smart.
Other people have branded him as stupid because "all he did was slap a
few
386's together". Yeah right. Kind of like Redhat or Caldra in the Linux
software area?
Any large company is going to consist of a bit of good and bad. The
thing
I HATE is when people (not necessarily yourself) spout about
how they are somehow _all_ bad people and we should not respect their
success. I say good luck to them. I also say: look at Linux coming along
to destroy their business such as M$ had done to Apple and IBM. Does
this
mean that we should hate Linus because of his success today and his
future success.
People of course would then say "Ahhhh, but it was not just one person,
but
a team of international developers". They would be right! So why is a
company
such as M$ made up of _many_ people, yet we still hold Gates's head on
the
block? Well it is not fair to have these blatant double standards.
Whichever way I look at it IMHO both Gates and Dell were smart. Also
Gates comes under the heading of high hacker intelligence.
p.s. If I appear to be advocating Windows or M$ you may feel
free to shoot me or otherwise decapitate my body. This
was an attempt to be balanced.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:19:18 +0000
> What a deal. Yeah...if I actually had as many Epson 900 printers as
> Lose98SE
> has "detected" I'd be in retirement.
>
How did you persuade windows to detect *any* Epson printers? I actually
have an Epson, and it took hours to make it work under 98!
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:20:31 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:18:02 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >So we have the truth at last! He just wants to look at the pretty
> >girls! I bet that's the only reason he has a computer!
>
> I am a girl.
>
Sorry, I'd not meant to assume gender.
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:18:01 +0000
Alan Baker wrote:
>
> >THERE IS NO POINT IN TECH INNOVATION IF NOBODY USES IT.
> >Even if the company "steals" this innovation.
> >Think about it.
>
> And stealing innovations isn't being innovative.
True - but if nobody uses it - then it ain't no good my friend!
Both M$ and Apple brought other people's technology to the masses
and they have played a vital role.
> >> > (2) Entrepreneurial Skills and Financial Management
> >>
> >> High on Micheal's and High on Financial for Bill, but neither has the
> >> skills of the other... so they are complements rather than full power.
> >
> >Gates had the skill to realise that he doesn't have the skill, hence
> >Alan
> >and Balmer
>
> That would be "Allen".
Thanks for the correction. Seeing as you provided no other logical
arguments then I assume you agree with my other points. Good!
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:22:25 +0000
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > THERE IS NO POINT IN TECH INNOVATION IF NOBODY USES IT.
> > Even if the company "steals" this innovation.
> > Think about it.
> >
>
> The point is...Neither Dell nor Microsoft is an "innovative" company.
>
> Dell merely assembly-lines quasi-Industry-Standard PC's and low-end
> servers (PC's on steroids like what I've built at home). And Microsoft...
> ...nothing more than a gang of copyright and patent infringers who can't
> even get it right...
"Redhat merely assembly-lines quasi-Industry-Stardard Linux software and
low end Linux extensions (My distribution's on steroids like what I've
built at home).
RedHat...
...nothing more than a gang of copyright and patent infringers who
can't
even get it right..."
Pick your hat. Pick your company. They still all have done good in their
own
way.
> >
> > > > (2) Entrepreneurial Skills and Financial Management
> > >
> > > High on Micheal's and High on Financial for Bill, but neither has the
> > > skills of the other... so they are complements rather than full power.
> >
> > Gates had the skill to realise that he doesn't have the skill, hence
> > Alan and Balmer.
>
> More like every wannabe Godfather gets himself some liutenants.
Is Robert Young hiring?
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From: "Michael J. Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The 130MByte text file
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:26:43 GMT
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Simply writing a program that forks endlessly will take any unrestricted
: system out. Incidentally, I tried it on Linux Mandrake 7.2. Woops!
: --
: Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
This has been discussed before. I tried to threaten and then recover my
Caldera 1.1 system (released in spring of 1997) using that technique. The
system became quite slow, but was recoverable as follows.
1. Make sure your bin directory is in your $PATH.
2. Create the following files using the pico editor (in the pine package).
[root@mburns /root]# more bin/hogsystem.sh
#!/bin/sh
while true; do
$0 &
$0 &
$0 & # Create processes at an exponential rate.
$0 &
$0 &
done
[root@mburns /root]# more bin/killthis.sh
#!/bin/sh
kill -9 $( ps -aux | grep $1 | cut -c9-14 - )
[root@mburns /root]# more bin/recover.sh
#! /bin/sh
exit
3. Copy the hogsystem.sh file to crash.sh in the bin directory.
4. Make all of the mentioned .sh files executable using "chmod +x *.sh".
5. Set off the crisis by entering "crash.sh" in a console.
6. Ameliorate the crisis by entering "cp bin/recover.sh bin/crash.sh" in
another console.
7. End the crisis by entering "killthis crash" in a console.
I did not bother rebooting after this little exercise. Aren't newer
releases of Linux just as robust?
--
Michael J. Burns http://www.indirect.com/www/mburns/
"We are such stuff "Oh brave new world,
As dreams are made on, and our little life That has such people in't!"
Is rounded with a sleep."
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From: "Daza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:19:36 -0000
Reply-To: "Daza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daza wrote:
>
> > Erm, maybe you should look at the tpc results more closely.
Windows2000
> > does not appear in the top ten *Non-clustered* results. This implies
that
> > Wintel SMP systems do not scale well. The only way to get Wintel to
give
> > high-end performance is to use clustering. Mature OS's like True64,
AIX,
> > OS/390, Nonstop Kernel and Solaris have excellent SMP/MPP scalability.
> > Linux and Windows are not as "single box" scalable as these.
>
> Not sure why you are lumping "Linux and windows" together,
> it makes about as much sense as "Solaris and windows".
>
> Have you looked at specweb 99? Nobody has better 8-way
> results than Linux, not solaris, not aix, not Tru-64 Unix.
>
> microsoft, with their all-out "benchmark buster" web cache
> configuration, came close, but you can see the results for
> normally aspirated windows pcs way down in the results.
>
> jjs
>
Ooooh. 8-way. So many. ;-)
Try 64-way?
I only lump Linux and Windows together because they both have limited SMP
scalability compared to many high end OS's. In my original message I did
point out that clustering is a viable method to scale beyond an OS's limited
SMP scalability. However, even with clustering Linux and Windows are
lagging behind high end OS's with the ability to provide single system image
facilities. For really large systems, their are many technically and
operationally superior platforms than Windows or Linux.
Don't read too much into benchmarks. They are artificial. Speak to people
running real world applications for a true picture.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:29:15 +0000
> > TV-AM was NEVER, AT ALL, IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER, EVEN CLOSE TO
> > GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
>
> What was TV-AM ??
>
TV-AM was a breakfast time TV program in the UK in the 80s (it may have
lived till the 90s, I never watched it cos it was utter shit).
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yum! A new laptop screen, i thinks ill fry it!
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 06:40:00 -0600
"Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ah7f6.224$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:76Yd6.340$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "meow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > THIS SHOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. THERE IS NO REASON THIS CANT BE CODED SO
> > > THAT THE USER CAN ONLY CHOOSE OPTIONS THAT HIS MONITOR SUPPORTS.
> > > iTS EXTREMELY BAD PROGRAMMING THAT IT ALLOWS THEM TO SCREW UP THERE
> > > MACHINE SO VERY EASILY.
> >
> > While I disagree that Linux could possibly harm an LCD screen, I do
agree
> > with you on one point.
> >
> > Monitors and Video cards have supported automatic identificaiton of
> monitor
> > capabilities for years. Why doesn't Linux support this?
>
> Xconfigurator does and has for quite some time.
> Mandrake's installer does and has ever since they opted for graphical
> installs
> Educate yourself before posing such questions...
When I was running Mandrake 7.2 it most certainly did *NOT* auto-detect my
monitor. I had to physically select it from the list (and I had to do this
every time I changed graphic modes, which was quite annoying).
Xconfigurator? Does that exist in every distribution of Linux? Does it
exist in even most of them?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Aaron R Kulkis
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:35:13 +0000
> Still, I suppose it has to be so when Linux attracts mostly long hair
> weirdos.
There's nothing wrong with long haired weirdos. I'm a long haired
weirdo, but I bet I'm better with computers than you are.
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Aaron R Kulkis
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:36:33 +0000
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Mike Martinet wrote:
> >
> > Kulkis swears?! My God! What does he say?
> >
> > "Microsoft is mean" "Microsoft is not nice"
> >
> > Things like that? Ach! He is posessed!
> >
> > "Doctor, what's the cure?"
> > "Fire. And lots of it"
> >
> > -Simpsons
> >
> > MjM
> >
> > Go to bed, Jeepey man. Hey. Are you naming yourself after the ancient
> > T-Rex song?
>
> ...his little brother's Tonka toy.
>
It's probably his OWN Tonka toy
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Aaron R Kulkis
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 12:37:59 +0000
"--==<( Jeepster )>==--" wrote:
>
> Sad.
Oh get a thesaurus
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:05:03 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > Peter Mandleson MP
> > >
> > You'll have to elaborate on this one. He's gay, he's a liar
> > (allegedly) and he's Labour. So?
> >
>
> You have the allegedly in the wrong place. At some point he has lied,
> however, it is not a matter of public record what his sexuality is.
> AFAIK the only evidence we have is an "accusation" made my the former
> tory MP Matthew Parris on Newsnight
Angus Deayton (sp.?) is always right. <G>
Regards,
Karel Jansens
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:36:28 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:31:22 +0100...
...and Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "--==<( Jeepster )>==--" wrote:
> >
> > and TiVo, 8-track, betamax and videtext?
> >
> An incarnation of Betamax is still used as a professional recording
> system. Videotext became Teletext (or CeeFax) and is hugely popular,
> at least in Europe.
We in Germany still call it Videotext, and it is alive and well. I use
it every day as a TV programming guide and a source for news
headlines. For that, it beats any kind of Internet service heads down.
mawa
--
Easy Girl Had Sex On Tuesday Afternoon; Did Not Use Protection:
"Before You Know, It's Wednesday", She Says
Film at 11
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Tread carefully when advocating Linux & OpenS
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:40:53 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Fri, 02 Feb 2001 11:14:10 GMT...
...and gswork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However open a system is it's meaningless to the actual user for whom
> the source code is just hard drive filler. To use source you must
> understand it to a degree enough to change it meaningfully.
That's right.
And, lo and behold, that is why thou shalt not call it Open Source;
nay I say: Thou shalt call it Free Software.
The expression "Free Software" makes clear what the advantage for the
individual user is. "Open Source" is just a buzzword targeted at IT
managers.
mawa
--
Wynot, Nebraska | Rabbit Shuffle, North Carolina
Brainy Boro, New Jersey | Stifflknee Know, North Carolina
Cheesequake, New Jersey | Shoofly, North Carolina
-- U.S. placenames
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: What do you do if your language of discussion is subverted?
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:42:15 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:49:29 GMT...
...and Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the term "open source" becomes so subverted that the general public
> perception is that Microsoft's development model can be considered "open
> source," then how can the term even be used in discussion without there
> being confusion?
The term "open source" *should* be subverted or at least people should
get the impression that it has been. Then they'll finally stop using
it. Too much nonsense has been tied to that term.
mawa
--
We handle four billion calls a year, for everyone from presidents and
kings to the scum of the earth. So your call doesn't go through once
in a while, or you get billed for a call or two you didn't make. We
don't care. We don't have to, we're the phone company. -- Lily Tomlin
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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R Kulkis
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:29:57 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"--== wrote:
> A very sad little boy who pretends to be a man with an important job.
>
> Nearly every post he makes he has to swear in.
>
> Sad.
>
>
> Still, I suppose it has to be so when Linux attracts mostly long hair
> weirdos.
>
I was a sailor for ten years. Therefore I think he sounds a bit like a
clergyman.
Cheers
Ralph Miguel Hansen
Using SuSE 5.3 and 7.0
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From: "--==<\( Jeepster \)>==--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R Kulkis
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:27:12 -0000
So, when are you two getting married.....oh dear, the legal age of
homosexuality is 16, and you two are only 12....
a few more years to grow for you then...
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Mike Martinet wrote:
> > >
> > > Kulkis swears?! My God! What does he say?
> > >
> > > "Microsoft is mean" "Microsoft is not nice"
> > >
> > > Things like that? Ach! He is posessed!
> > >
> > > "Doctor, what's the cure?"
> > > "Fire. And lots of it"
> > >
> > > -Simpsons
> > >
> > > MjM
> > >
> > > Go to bed, Jeepey man. Hey. Are you naming yourself after the
ancient
> > > T-Rex song?
> >
> > ...his little brother's Tonka toy.
> >
>
> It's probably his OWN Tonka toy
>
> --
> http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: "--==<\( Jeepster \)>==--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R Kulkis
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:25:56 -0000
Self proclaimed genius's ususally aren't.
But if it swells your penis as much as your ego, then please continue to
delude yourself.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Still, I suppose it has to be so when Linux attracts mostly long hair
> > weirdos.
>
> There's nothing wrong with long haired weirdos. I'm a long haired
> weirdo, but I bet I'm better with computers than you are.
> --
> http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R Kulkis
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:41:56 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"--== wrote:
> Self proclaimed genius's ususally aren't.
>
> But if it swells your penis as much as your ego, then please continue to
> delude yourself.
>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> > Still, I suppose it has to be so when Linux attracts mostly long hair
>> > weirdos.
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with long haired weirdos. I'm a long haired
>> weirdo, but I bet I'm better with computers than you are.
>> --
>> http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
>
So you think one has to be a genius to be better with computers than
yourself ? And your penis is not swelling anymore ? What a pity.
Cheers
Ralph Miguel Hansen
Using SuSE 5.3 and 7.0
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Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:42:17 +1000
From: Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
>
> But thanks for the report on WinaXe. I don't think I'm
> going to drag my performance down using Windows with
> my Linux. Windows sucks and is unreliable.
>
X is not remote control in the way that PCanywhere is for example. It
way faster because it is not redrawing the screen through the link, the
X server on the local machine does that. I have a diskless PC (486 with
fast graphics card) here as an Xterminal that is as fast and reliable as
sitting at the actual machine.
IanP
--
"Dear someone you've never heard of,
how is so-and-so. Blah blah.
Yours truly, some bozo." - Homer Simpson
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:33:48 +0100
Todd wrote:
>
> "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 18:55:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie
> > > Ebert) wrote:
> > >
> > > Fonts under Linux are nasty looking compared to Windows and until the
> > > anti-aliasing gets incorporated into XFree they will continue to look
> > > that way.
> > >
> > > They don't have a "Font-Deuglification Hwo-To" for nothing Charlie.
> > >
> >
> > Windows screen fonts do look better. The main reason for this is that
> > both truetype fonts and the Windows font rasteriser are optimised for
> > better screen performance.
> >
> > Linux (and UN*X in general) grew up with Type I fonts (*), which are
> > hinted in favour of the hardcopy producing end. It's also probably
> > related to X's distributed model: there really is no way of predicting
> > on what kind of monitor the fonts will end up, so better play it safe
> > and go for the lowest common denominator.
> >
> > If it is important to the user, there are ways to crank up linux
> > screen fonts to (almost) the level of Windows. IIRC, Rod Smith has a
> > couple of interesting web sites on that subject (I don't have the URLs
> > here, but a Google search on his name should most likely turn them
> > up).
> >
> > So in the end it boils down to a strategic decision: better looking
> > screen or better looking printouts. As ever, take your pick and live
> > long and prosper with it.
>
> Actually, no.
>
> Windows has built in fonts for printing, as well as the screen. When
> printing, Windows uses the 'print' fonts... so you still get superior
> printouts as well.
>
That is a _very_ debatable statement. Personally, I find that TTF
prints have a less finished look than Ghostscript output. Using
Windows with ATM might be an improvement, but it's been a long time
since I used that program (and that was in the days when HP's LaserJet
II was a hot item). If you want the absolute, undisputed,
use-it-and-forget-about-it best, ditch all of them and go for TeX.
There is a reason why professional type artists hark a you when you
mention TrueType.
Regards,
Karel Jansens
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R Kulkis
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:42:20 +0100
Ralph Miguel Hansen wrote:
>
> "--== wrote:
>
> > A very sad little boy who pretends to be a man with an important job.
> >
> > Nearly every post he makes he has to swear in.
> >
> > Sad.
> >
> >
> > Still, I suppose it has to be so when Linux attracts mostly long hair
> > weirdos.
> >
> Kulkis is swearing ? Shit, I tried to improve my fucking english-knowledges
> by reading his comments.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ralph Miguel Hansen
> Using SuSE 5.3 and 7.0
Nit-picking mode on:
SuSE didn't drop the dots in their name until after version 5.3 of
their distribution.
You should therefore refer to it as S.u.S.E. 5.3 and SuSE 7.0.
Ahahahahahahahaha!
Yes, I'm sad. I know. I can't help it.
Regards,
Karel Jansens
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From: "Unknown Poster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:03:11 -0500
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> pip wrote:
> >
> > Kevin Zvonek wrote:
> > >
> > > > (1) Tech Innovation
> > >
> > > Zero on both counts... There is no evidence they have contributed to
> > > "innovation" within the pc industry... sure they used a 1900's
"assembly
> > > line" technique... but in the area of "computing" they were "no
shows".
> >
> > THERE IS NO POINT IN TECH INNOVATION IF NOBODY USES IT.
> > Even if the company "steals" this innovation.
> > Think about it.
> >
>
> The point is...Neither Dell nor Microsoft is an "innovative" company.
>
> Dell merely assembly-lines quasi-Industry-Standard PC's and low-end
> servers (PC's on steroids like what I've built at home). And Microsoft...
> ...nothing more than a gang of copyright and patent infringers who can't
> even get it right...
>
<snip>
My problem with everyone who whines and moans about Microsoft
'not getting it right' is that they obviously don't have enough knowledge
of the products. There were problems, true, with early versions, but if
you kept up with the updates and Service Packs, you ended up
fine. I run a WAN with 30 NT Servers, several of which have
1000 or more users hitting them routinely. We're not talking file/print
services here, either; I have Exchange, Oracle and MS-SQL servers.
The *only* times they have been taken down for the last 3 years is to
load Service Packs or Patches, or because of hardware problems. I've
lost 2 Power Supplies, a NIC, and a motherboard. NT is just as stable
as Unix or Netware. My Win 2K Test Labs have similar loads being
simulated on them, and they're just as stable. The 5000 NT 4.0
workstations and laptops we are using have been as stable,
with the exception of pushing Service Packs,or hardware problems.
The only products they haven't *gotten it right* with are the consumer
versions, but I have Windows 95b running on a workstation at home that
does nothing but play kids games from CD's. It never BSOD's on me. The
Windows 98 SE and Windows ME workstations that I run here do, usually
when I'm playing a game. If I'm using MS-Office, they're fine. It isn't the
OS,
it's poor programming of third party applications.
So, when you say 'Microsoft can't get it right', take a long hard look at
the
application of their product. If you load every piece of crackware that
comes
out, I expect you to have problems. If you keep it clean and neat, you'll be
fine.
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