Linux-Advocacy Digest #986, Volume #28 Fri, 8 Sep 00 00:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Computer and memory ("Chad Myers")
Re: Computer and memory ("Chad Myers")
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
says Linux growth stagnating
Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform
Re: How low can they go...? ("JS/PL")
Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a (Mike Byrns)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("JS/PL")
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Computer and memory ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: How low can they go...?
Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 02:52:28 GMT
"2:1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8p8vi7$iie$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8DDt5.35353$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > "Nathaniel Jay Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > Is my anger apparent yet? Being an American, and seeing
> > > other Americans try to say that 'we are superior' is
> > > enough to make me want to slit my wrists. But I would
> > > settle for them shutting up (which I know also won't
> > > happen).
> >
> > Who was saying "we are superior"?
> >
> > Not I.
> >
> > Geez, all you guys really know how to make something out
> > of nothing and completely miss the point and then somehow
> > end up making me the one to blame for it.
> >
> > It's this simple:
> >
> > <Whiny Brits complaining that American's are too used to their
> > fast Internet>
> >
> > <Chad suggesting that, rather than complaining all the time, they
> > should encourage their government to do something about it and
> > join the rest of us>
> >
> > <Whiny calling Chad arrogant, ignorant, "stupid American",
> > "American attitude">
> >
> > <Chad gets pissed. Reminds Whiny Brits that it's not America's fault
> > they have crappy internet access, and blaming Microsoft et al for
> > large downloads really isn't addressing the hart of the problem>
> >
> > <Whiny Brits continue to avoid the point and label and insult Chad>
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> >
>
> Chad, you are a fool of truly grand proportions. Since you didn't
> understand first time, I don't know exactly why I'm tyring to spell it
> out.
I've understood since day one. You guys are the ones that aren't
listening to me.
Case in point:
===============
> Internet access in Britain is not slow per se. As it happens, at my
> college, I get completely free broadband access.
> The problem lies in the _link_ to the USA. That _LINK_ is slow,
> therefore it takes a long time to download large software service packs
> from Redmond. That has nothing to do with the general speed of internet
> access in the UK. It has to do with the transatlantic link. Or mabey you
> guys have a faster transatlantic link than us ;-)
===============
Ok, so? My point:
Instead of whining about your connections and blaming it on everyone
but yourselves, why don't you fix it?
Why do you wait for us to do something for you?
Why doesn't your government subsidise some of your corporations to
build a bigger, faster link, or a satellite link, etc.
American corporations are building global LEO satellite meshes to
bring wireless Internet to the entire world (Teledesic).
What are European corporations doing?
I'm not trying to be holier-than-thou, I'm just wondering.
You seem to like to bitch a lot about the situation and somehow
blame it on us, but it doesn't appear you're really doing anything
about.
So, you should:
a.) shut up and do something about it
b.) shut up and sit there in your own do-nothingness
You don't hear me complaining that education could be better in the
States. I'm doing something about it! I'm electing officials who
take education seriously, I'm donating money to private educational
organizations that are helping to improve the situation.
Do you NOW FINALLY UNDERSTAND THE POINT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE
FOR THE PAST WEEK?!
No arrogance, no attitude, just a suggestion.
What if I sat here and bitched that British Airways didn't come
to Austin, TX and then presumed to blame it on the British for
being exclusive and stuck up? I'd be wrong! They don't come here
because there's no money to be made! Likewise, stop bitching
about the poor telco and Internet situation in Britain and
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
Just some advice!
> If you can't understand this, then you are truly stupid. I now await a
> reply from you detailing your complete lack of understanding and a
> healthy dose of xenophobia.
Jesus, do you guys get high or drink before you read my posts?
This last paragraph shows that you have read NOT ONE FUCKING SENTANCE
of ANYTHING I have wrote in this thread.
-Chad
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 02:53:55 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Colin R. Day" wrote:
> > So the resources really belong to the nation?
>
> By that, i mean aggregate resources under the control of the government
> AND it's citizenry.
>
> Socialism requires that vast resources be taken out of the private
> sector and dumped into the public sector....where they are promptly
> squandered by idiots who are not restrained ( by profit/loss motive)
> to use those resources in a wise, beneficial manner.
>
> Here in the US, we see that the welfare state actually PROMOTES the
> poverty-life style, as opposed to getting people moved on to jobs.
>
> Remember the hue and cry from the welfare-state employees when
> welfare reform legislation started going through?
>
> Sure, the poverty pimps talked about "millions of dead starving in
> the streets", but their REAL fear was that they, too, would have
> to get real jobs.
>
Aaron,
See what I have to deal with? They don't read your posts and
then continue to chastize you for some point you never even made.
Worse than that you have to continue explaining simple logic,
ecomonics and democracy to them!
-Chad
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
says Linux growth stagnating
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:51:34 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Yes, but I'm getting tired of being questioned constantly by you.
Then you have the options of not responding.
> I'm sure you can answer SOME questions by yourself. Nothing
> personal, but really, this sort of police interrogation is
> not worth the effort.
By the way, SOME of the questions have been either to confirm what I already
knew as well as test your integrity and credibility. Which has caused me to
dig all the more at times when you were, shall we say, less than
forthcomming.
Such as you have been in reguards to the connections between KDE.org and the
KDE Project. I am certain that you know there is another connection that
you have not yet admitted to. Hint, does the KDE project gain any service
not yet stated in this thread from KDE.org?
By having you answering question that I have independently already learned
the answers to is a valid technique to getting to the truth in this
discussion. If I introduce a fact that would be counter to you position you
could again attack the true facts as being false; which would only add to
that noise level of this discussion. If I ask you a question for which an
honet answer is the offered that introduces the fact into the conversation
then it will not a side contention causing a digression.
> > Has the usage of Qt with KDE, including the discussions reguarding it
usage,
> > led more programmers and orther in software development to be familiar
with
> > the existance and the capabilities of Qt?
>
> Yes. And this was obvious.
Correct.
> > Has to usage of Qt with KDE lead more programmers to being familiar with
Qt
> > and its API?
>
> Yes. And this was obvious.
Correct.
Both of these amount to alot of free advertising and promotion of
Trolltech's product commercial versions of Qt. Someone who becomes familiar
with free unix version of Qt is more lible to recommends or or specify the
use of the non-free versions of Qt when developing software in an
environment or situation where the free version is not useable.
Which is a motive for Trolltech to influence the choice for the selection of
Qt to be used with KDE, as well as a motive to take actions to retain the
KDE Project as a "client".
> > Would the porting of unix software to non-unix platforms always qualify
for
> > the use of the free version(s) of Qt?
>
> I don't understand the question. What platform are you talking about?
> What software is being ported? Is the software originally using Qt?
Restated:
If someone ported unix software that uses Qt to a non-unix platform could
that person always use free versions of QT for the ported software.
> If it's an absolute: there surely is some software that when ported
> to some platform may require access to a non-free version of
> Qt to be compiled.
I will that that as an agreement the act of porting software as described
above, would (or could) require a commercial version of Qt.
> However, that doesn't necessarily mean that a *new* license
> of Qt has to be obtained. You can just ask someone to compile
> it for you. Just like you need someone who has a decent
> windows compiler to build it
That is an evasion of the question.
> (and they are all commercial).
Are you certain of that?
> If you are trying to imply that KDE provides TT with
> business, just ask, and the answer is probably yes.
Please don't waffle, the answer is yes.
All this are additional reasons that the difference between KDE devlopers
working for Trolltech and the other examples presented a few messages back
in this thread are critical and as well as prove that the other examples are
not valid for comparison purposes.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:54:07 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bruce Ediger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8p84kt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Spider) wrote:
> >No, MS told the world that. MDI is a much better way of doing things
> >in *certain applications.* Why do people have so much trouble
> >understanding that different problems have different optimal
> >solutions?
>
> I guess it's just really, really hard to imagine which certain
> application(s) that MDI might be optimal.
>
> You know that old saying about how every problem looks like a nail
> if your only tool is a hammer? Well, if MDI is your hammer, every
> problem looks like your thumb.
Since when was MDI the only style of Windows programs available? Which you
hammer story woulds seem that you are suggesting.
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:10:32 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Christophe Ochal in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> ><cut>
> >
> >> I guess I'll take a break for a while; everybody's sick of me already,
> >> I'm sure. If you need me, I'll be in alt.destroy.microsoft.
> >
> >That exists?!? LoL
> >
> >BTW, i didn't read you're whole post, i have no big interrests in law, i
> >know enough about it to stay out of jail, that's enough :)
>
> Are you really sure about that? You'd be surprised what seemingly
> common business activities could get you three years in the clink. Very
> few businesses see increased competition as a good thing; yet attempts
> to forestall competition are illegal.
>
> I also think its kind of useful to know enough about the law to protect
> your rights, rather than to just stay out of jail.
Maybe someday you'll learn a thing or two about law Max, then
again......nah...
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From: Mike Byrns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 03:21:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Bruce Ediger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8p84kt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Spider) wrote:
> > >No, MS told the world that. MDI is a much better way of doing things
> > >in *certain applications.* Why do people have so much trouble
> > >understanding that different problems have different optimal
> > >solutions?
> >
> > I guess it's just really, really hard to imagine which certain
> > application(s) that MDI might be optimal.
> >
> > You know that old saying about how every problem looks like a nail
> > if your only tool is a hammer? Well, if MDI is your hammer, every
> > problem looks like your thumb.
>
> Since when was MDI the only style of Windows programs available? Which you
> hammer story woulds seem that you are suggesting.
I never did see your "reason" for MDI. I'm interested...
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:18:48 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:39b771b7$2$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >Gary Hallock wrote:
> >>
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Kennedy wanted to get us out (and there are tapes to prove THAT,
too),
> >> > but LBJ decided to insert 500,000 men instead.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Johnson also wanted to get us out - it was part of his 1964 campaign.
Goldwater
> >> wanted to extend to war into China and use nuclear weapons.
> >> The fact is that every president since Eisenhower promised to get us
out of
> >> Vietnam and each ended up actually getting us in deeper. That
includes Nixon.
> >> Viewing Vietnam as Johnson's war is very simplistic.
>
> >Who sent over the first combat unit larger than a company?
> >Who sent the first squadron of Air Force ground support craft?
>
> >Who slided our troops from the position of tag-along ADVISORS into
> >full-fledged direct combatants.
>
> >Before LBJ, yes, Advisors took part in fighting...this is routine...
Anybody
> >who goes out in the bush carries a firearm, and shoots when it gets
hairy.
>
> >But before LBJ, it was always a couple of Americans giving advice and
> >assistance to a much larger body of Viet Namese.
>
>
> Plug in to how Ike sent aircraft carriers into the Gulf and offered to
drop
> nukes on the Vietmin (sp) in 1954 to support the French -- then think of
the
> CIA running lose in SEA, and you will begin to understand who started the
> Vietnam war.
Who gives a FUCK! I've heard of off topic but this should be illegal.
Get this shit out of here!
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:28:16 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:42:20 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:25:12 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >>
> >> >Of course....in the US, the incomong junior high students are
> >> >also mis-educated, with idiotic ideas like "invented spelling" and
> >> >"see and say" reading.
> >>
> >> Well, I went to an American public school for a year, as did my brother
> >> and sister, and none of us did anything of the sort.
> >
> >This is being taught in the K-3 years. If they are thoroughly
> >propagandized by 4th grade that there is no 'correct' spelling,
> >then they are pretty much lost to everything.
>
> My sister took first grade and I don't believe that's how they
> taught it. That would've been about 10 years ago FYI.
In other words.. .not today.
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:46:05 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Courageous in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
>> .... just because I'm that kind of dick.
>
>I've noticed that. I don't see any further point in attempting
>civil conversations with you. Plainly, you're simply not interested.
Then why did you post this message?
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
Research assistance gladly accepted. --
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:46:07 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Joe R. in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"Shocktrooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>> Kind of like how you banged the drum about how one *HAD* to, absolutely..
>> reformat the harddrive to do a clean install of Windows?
>>
>> Anyone, who ever had done it, knew instantly that you were absolutely
>> wrong.
>
>No, electroshock boy.
>
>The issue was whether you could do a clean installation and still use
>your existing apps without reinstalling them.
>
>Macs can handle it. Windows can't.
>
>End of discussion.
He's got you there, 'Shockboy'.
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:46:08 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Christophe Ochal in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
[...]
>I never understood you guys... it's like those lawsuits against sigarette
>makers, they know it's bad for their health, yet, they smoke, they get ill,
>and *then* sue the comanies.... Anyone wants some logic? ^_^
It's the 'yet they smoke' part that you're missing. Knowing it is bad
for you is not the issue; lots of fun things are bad for you. Cigarette
makers have for years flatly stated that cigarettes (properly: nicotine)
is not addictive. They've done this while not only knowing it is
addictive, but spending millions of dollars researching how to enhance
its addictive properties so that they can sell more cigarettes to people
who believe them when they say it is not addictive.
At the same time, they were being careful *not* to make cigarettes which
are less harmful (outside the addiction) because that would indicate
they knew it caused lung cancer, something else they flatly denied. So
because they knew their product wasn't safe and was addictive, they
avoided making it safer while making it more addictive.
Does it make a bit more sense now?
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:46:10 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Zenin in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>[ BTW, please don't modify the followup line to bogus groups ]
Alt.destroy.microsoft is not a bogus group; its been around for at least
four years, AFAIK. If your server does not have it, contact your news
admin.
Thanks for your time. Hope it helps.
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
Research assistance gladly accepted. --
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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 03:46:17 GMT
"Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8oMt5.977$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 8vAt5.7822$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Nathaniel Jay Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > : Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
> > : >You guys are no worse or better then Europeans, Asians or whatever,
> live
> > : >with it
> > :
> > : Actually, the thing these idiots seem to have forgotten is
> > : that most of us (Americans, other than Native Americans,
> > : and even them if you go back far enough) are Europeans,
> > : Asians, Africans and whatever else. The US was 'founded'
> > : on the principles of tolerance. Yes, sometimes that
> > : tolerance slipped. But I would say in our 'enlightened'
> > : age, we ought to be able to just accept that other people
> > : aren't automatically 'the enemy'. We're all the same. We
> > : all have to put up with stupid government policies. We
> > : all have governments that occassionally make the right
> > : choice. And democracy (or is that Democracy here in the
> > : US) isn't the be-all end-all of human existance. It has
> > : its bright spots (as most governmental forms do), and it
> > : certainly has its ugly spots, as the morons in this forum
> > : clearly show on a daily basis.
> >
> > Hey listen you communist moron, we are not all the same not even on the
> > country level, much less on the individual basis. Tell that to the
> Europian
> > countries not to handle their neighbors as enemies and stop figthing
each
> > other. People in the US can't tolerate it anymore, cost too much to
settle
> > their differences.
>
> ...
>
> You just prooved his point you bloody idiot, or are you to blind to see
it,
> you republican! (there!) His post is correct, learn world history, and
> you've got more blood on you're hands than any European country.
> (Where are the native americans? Oh right, they're wiped out, what
happened
> in 'Nam? Where did that Atom bomb fall? How many people have died at the
> hands of the States? Need i go on?)
>
Vikings, Romans, Nazis and Crusades need I go on? Maybe learning your
European history may help. The Europeans killed more native americans in
the first 100 years, than the USA ever did. It wasn't though war but
though disease. More than half of the population for the americas were
wiped out though European diseases.
'Nam was started by the French. The Nazis killed more people than the USA
ever did, in any single war.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:25:51 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ermine Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ujFtYzSGAHA.253@cpmsnbbsa07...
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8p92ne$c3e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > No, that cideotape came much latter, I am talking about the original
> claims.
> > Which was not limited to only newwr versions. So! You NOW admit that
> > Microsoft has failed to permit the purchasers of their original version
of
> > Windows 95 to the latter upgrade versions of the OS permitting upgrade
> ONLY
> > through purchase of news prebuilt computers systems that came with the
> newer
> > versions of Windows 95 bundled in.
> >
> >
>
> Could you try again? What you wrote makes no sense.
Well if you have not been following several different threads, my statement
and the reason for it might not be clear.
1. It has been stated that Microsoft has issued quarterly update for
Windows since Window 95 first came out in the form of free service packs. I
estimate that if that statement was correct, there would be 12 quarterly
service pack for Windows 95. So I asked where I could locate those 12
service packs to upgrade my Window 95 Retail to the most recent version of
Windows 95. I never recieved any reply to my request. In spite of that
failure to respond to my request, the claims continued
2. Some one stated that it would not be possible to aquire latter versions
of Windows 95 without having to purchase a prebuilt computer that included a
preloaded or otherwise bundled copy of Windows 95. This was refuted by
many.
There were other statements that less directly impact on the subject of my
comment.
The person I was responding to here was a part of those other threads and
the messages I was here responding to, he shot down some of his prior
statements. By saying that there were four different OS's called Windows 95
and mentioning some of the sub product with names like Windows 95 OSR2 he
supported my position and shot down his own. The O in OSR if for OEM which
states that version of Windows 95 is for OEM distribution only.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:39:31 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mike Byrns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Bruce Ediger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8p84kt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Spider) wrote:
> > > >No, MS told the world that. MDI is a much better way of doing things
> > > >in *certain applications.* Why do people have so much trouble
> > > >understanding that different problems have different optimal
> > > >solutions?
> > >
> > > I guess it's just really, really hard to imagine which certain
> > > application(s) that MDI might be optimal.
> > >
> > > You know that old saying about how every problem looks like a nail
> > > if your only tool is a hammer? Well, if MDI is your hammer, every
> > > problem looks like your thumb.
> >
> > Since when was MDI the only style of Windows programs available? Which
you
> > hammer story woulds seem that you are suggesting.
>
> I never did see your "reason" for MDI. I'm interested...
>
I was just waiting to see if anyone in this thread has any memory of the
real reasons, so far all I have seen is two corny and childish replies. I
was hoping for a serious reply, but perhaps that is too much to hope for,
you are right I will not write and then post it.
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