Linux-Advocacy Digest #999, Volume #28 Fri, 8 Sep 00 11:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Computer and memory (Grega Bremec)
Re: Computer and memory ("Rob Hughes")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Jack Troughton)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Andreas Kahari)
Re: How low can they go...? ("JS/PL")
Re: Computer and memory (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: Computer and memory (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Chris Wenham)
Re: Computer and memory (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: How low can they go...? ("D'Arcy Smith")
Re: How low can they go...? ("D'Arcy Smith")
Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform (=?Windows-1252?Q?Paul_'Z'_Ewande=A9?=)
Re: Computer and memory
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grega Bremec)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 13:54:32 GMT
...and Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> used the keyboard:
>
>"Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:iS3u5.1076$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Quantum Leaper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
>> diZt5.17875$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> vikings, Romans, Crusades, these were committed by both our ancestors, as
>> for the Nazis yes, they killed millions of people, but tell me, how many
>> were killed in Hiroshima in one day?
>
>How many would've been killed had we not have dropped the bomb?
OK, my last intervention in this dying thread:
I doubt many more would've been killed, since the Japanese were
prepared to sign a peace treaty anyway. Perhaps the only thing that
had changed was that they came to peace negotiations as broken men
without even as much as a teaspoonful of national pride, while
otherwise they would probably still have some territorial claims (at
least Manchuria and Korea come to mind).
--
Grega Bremec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gbsoft.org/
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From: "Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:56:27 -0500
I consider him a disgrace. I was born and currently reside in the great
state of Texas. I also agree with him. Have a nice day.
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:sjMt5.37029$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8oMt5.977$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Otto, if that's your name (German name btw), there's a difference
between
> > being proud about your nation & the way you act, infact, you're a
disgrace
> > for the States
>
> Otto, you're not a disgrace.
>
> This guy's just another arrogant Euro-trash "I'm better than you" twit.
>
> -Chad
>
>
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From: Jack Troughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:06:38 -0400
Wow, actual system advocacy... I'm shocked.
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Joe R. in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >"Shocktrooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> >> Kind of like how you banged the drum about how one *HAD* to, absolutely..
> >> reformat the harddrive to do a clean install of Windows?
> >>
> >> Anyone, who ever had done it, knew instantly that you were absolutely
> >> wrong.
> >
> >No, electroshock boy.
> >
> >The issue was whether you could do a clean installation and still use
> >your existing apps without reinstalling them.
> >
> >Macs can handle it. Windows can't.
> >
> >End of discussion.
>
> He's got you there, 'Shockboy'.
OS/2 can do that as well. I have some software installs that have
been going for almost five years through many system upgrades and
reinstalls. We're talking about major apps like word processers
(Describe -- which is a _very very good_ word processor/typesetter),
spreadsheets, etc. You simply don't have to reinstall apps if you
reinstall warp. It's great.
Jack
Montreal QC
CANADA
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 16:01:56 +0100
In article <OE5u5.20452$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Lina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm a Linux newbie. What is the percentage of computers and servers running
>Linux now. Will an end-user alternative similar to Linux appear anytime
>soon?
>
>Thanks,
>Lina
>
>
>
>
Refer to the Linux Counter for answers to your first quiz:
<URL:http://counter.li.org/>
Concerning you second quiz: Come again?
/A
--
Andreas Kähäri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
All junk e-mail will be reported to the appropriate authorities.
========================================================================
The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:18:33 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Simon Cooke in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> >> Yes, it was a perfect pretext to help in their neferious acitvities of
> >tying
> >> non-OS services into the OS and thereby further locking in customer.
> >
> >Who are you to decide what belongs in an *APPLICATIONS PLATFORM* and what
> >doesn't?
>
> The customer.
You don't get to decide what MS puts into their software. It's not your
right. If it was your company...THEN you could decide but since you are only
the customer and have no decision making power within the Microsoft Corp.
the only right you have is to buy it or not buy it. I guess it goes without
saying that you've still chosen to buy it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:23:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
>>
>> Were you born yesterday? Do you not remember how the world
>> was falling under Hitler's control? Had Hitler decided not
>> to attack Russia, and decided to heed the warnings of
>> the upcoming D-Day, the world would be a much, much different
>> place.
>
>There were alot of U-Turns in history,deal with it
>
>> All these things you're typing, all this treason, you'd
>
>He's not commiting treason, he's critising yes, last time i checked the
>States were in favour of "free speech", or do you think that to be a bad
>law? Would you prefer a dictatorship?
>
>> probably be in a camp somewhere chipping rocks or you never
>> would've been born at all because of birthing restrictions
>> like in China.
>
>Do you know *WHY* these restrictions are there?
>
>> Consider yourself lucky.
>
>He knows enough about the world to know how fortunate he is, we all are
>
>> What if we didn't stand up to Soviet oppression? What if we
>> didn't constantly put pressure on the Communists?
>
>What makes you think the Sovjets would have attacked you?
>
>> U.S. may not do the best job all the time, but it's certainly
>> better than any other god-forsaken country on this planet
>
>And here's the arrogance again
>
>> can do. At least we don't have world wars breaking out
>> like we did when we left Europe to the Europeans' control.
>
>What? Now you're claiming you already rule the world? Hello? Arrogance?
>
>> Where would the Balkan conflicts be if not for us? I still
The Balkan conflicts would probably resolve themselves if
we weren't in there pushing each side in just the way we
want them. (This is where the blood sucking leaches shit
comes into play. Push each side of the war, just to keep
the trouble stirring. If they stopped fighting eachother,
they may see who's been pushing the fight along.)
>> disagree with our being there, but someone had to stop the
>> attrocities. Someone had to stand up and say no to Melosovic
>> et al. The Brits and the French didn't seem to care that
>> another Europe continental conflict was brewing again
>> (not unlike the events that lead to WWI).
>
>It is *VERY* unlike to the situation that led to WOI
>And do you know why you guys jumped on Melosovic like that? Weren't there
>any elections going on in the States at that moment? Or was that with Iraq?
>
>> > Well, you seem a little too puffed up to see reality
>> > anytime soon. Let me just point out that we aren't
>> > 'superior' to other countries. We're bigger than some.
>> > We're stronger than some. And we do it by being the blood
>> > sucking leaches that we are. Yeah, that's being superior.
>>
>> Blood sucking leaches, eh? Have you ever watched
>> Saving Private Ryan? You should. That's American determination
>> and American resolve in the face of ultimate defeat and
>> tyranny.
Individuals are not the same as 'government policies'.
The government right now doesn't care about individuals.
I have great respect for any of the people that are doing
battle or have done battle in the past to further the
'American Cause'. They do their job, and they fight their
heart out, even if they don't necissarily know why they
are fighting (case in point Nam, or more recently, Desert
Storm, and I have talked to a lot of people that were
involved in that conflict). I respect the people, and I
respect what they did. But I don't respect the policies
that put people there. And I don't respect the morons
that sit comfortable in the White House and order young
men and women to their deaths just because they have
something to prove.
>
>Have you ever watched the documentaries about 'Nam?
>
>> Americnas are not blood sucking leaches (you may be), we care
>
>I'm sure he can explain more elaboratly what he means
>
>> about humanity and attempt to preserve it when no one else
>> seems to care (not even the Brits or Francs). We keep bastards
Bullshit! If it wasn't for our involvment in a lot of the
'battles' in the world right now, they would eventually
end. We find it more economically advantageous to keep
the battles alive and keep the governments involved
distracted as we usher the riches of those countries into
the States. (Picture this, two people walk up to you in
the street. One swats you about your head and pisses you
off, you put all of your effort into 'attacking' the
person swatting you over your head. While you are busy
being pissed off at that person, the other reaches into
your pocket and cleans you out. He doesn't share any of
the wealth he got from you with the other person, just
leaves you two to battle out after having stirred up the
trouble between you in the first place.)
>> like Sadam Hussein in place. Sure, we got some oil from the
>
>That was the *ONLY* reason why the States reacted, *PROFIT*
>
>> deal, but we also helped prevent Sadam from causing even more
>> instability in the Mid East and saved millions of more lives
>> from being destroyed.
>
>So you just starve milions of others instead, with the blocades
>
>> Tell me, Nathan, what have you done in your worthless life?
I love this line. I find it to be the truest act of
desperation in any debate. Here's a brief list of what
I've done in my 'worthless life'.
1. I've been a farmer: dairy, beef, pork, and crops.
During my farming carreer I've pulled people out of the
way of runaway equipment. I've watched countless animal
births, and even occassionally had to get involved in them
to prevent the death of the mother or child. I've thrown
myself in front of a charging bull to prevent the bull
from hitting my younger cousin (who was about five at the
time). I've also pulled my uncle out of the bull-pen when
he was stupid enough to think he could challenge a
full-grown holstien bull to a fight (yes, he's a dumbass,
but that doesn't mean he deserved to die).
2. I've worked in factories. The only thing I can think
of that qualifies as slightly 'heroic' was yelling at
someone to get out of the way when I saw a bunch of
equipment falling off of a rack in the warehouse. Not a
big deal, and if someone else had seen it, they would have
done the same.
3. I've praised the freedoms I have and used them to
critisize when I see fit (like now). I don't think that
the US is the 'worst' country in the world (which you seem
to have yourself convinced of), but I do believe that we
have a right to critisize any aspect of it we want. And
anyone arrogant enough to think we are the 'best' deserves
to be knocked down a notch or two. I use every
opportunity I can to point out the shortcommings I see in
our 'way of life'. This isn't treason. This is what
makes our country what it is: free. Without critical
appraisal of our problems, we will not continue to grow.
>
>What have you?
>
>> Have you saved one human being? Have you fed one starving
>> child? Have you sacrificed your life to save another or
>> a group of innocent people? Americans do this every day
Read the above. I think the farming paragraph says a lot.
I would definitely consider that I saved my cousin's life.
And possibly my uncle's (he may have gotten out on his
own). And with the food I helped grow (as a farmer) I've
fed my share of starving children. (And in case you have
forgotten, I am an American asshole).
>> Remember that when you're sleeping in your nice comfortable
>> bed watching your nice T.V. sipping on your nice brandy.
>
I do remember it. And I'm thankful for the freedom I
have. I don't drink either. And TV is just a very, very
little bit of my time.
Your implications are growing from telling me what a
worthless communist I am to telling me that I'm a
worthless human being because I don't agree that the US is
the greatest country in the world. We are not as free of
fault as you seem to believe. Study world history since
the US has been formed (and not just the world history
they teach in public schools, where anyone outside of the
US is villanized). You will see that we are more 'tricky'
with our attrocities, but we still commit them. Open your
eyes. Don't convince yourself that we are beyond
reproach, because we aren't.
We have some good, and some bad. But ignoring the bad
only makes you one of two things:
1. Blind: as you willfully shut your eyes every time you
see something 'naughty' that we've done.
2. A politician: and I won't even get into how little
respect I have for you if that is your classification.
I have a right to critisize the US if I want to. Believe
it or not, that's one of the rights that our forefathers
fought for. Now, I choose to exercise that right.
It's not your willingness to 'stand up' for your country
that I am 'attacking' here. It is your arrogant
insistance that we are 'the best' in the world. The
evidence is there if you just want to see it. If you
don't, then no amount of effort on my part will make you
see it.
Since I am responding to Chad, and attached to Christophe,
I would just like to point out that you are in my
killfile. I won't see more than what is replied to
(unless you want to email me, feel free, it's been awhile
since I've been mail bombed). I'm using one of the
freedoms I have in the US (as a born citizen), the right
to critisize the government and its policies. You keep
telling me I don't (or shouldn't) have that right because
you don't agree with my opinion on the matter. That's
fine, but who was the communist again?
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathaniel Jay Lee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:26:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
>bpYt5.38874$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "Nathaniel Jay Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Well, actually, I killfiled him already. That's why it
>> > was attached to your post (which quoted him). But I had
>> > to say something.
>>
>> Kind like sticking his fingers in his ear and humming really
>> loud. Real adult. For such holier-than-thou attitude with
>> nothing to back it up, you can reall be a jerk, "Nathaniel".
>
>Well, some don't seem to need to stick fingers into their ears to be deaf to
>simple reasoning (sounds familiar?)
>
>> > Arrogance is not something that I can just shrug off.
>> > Especially when it is accompanied by stupidity and false
>> > logic.
>>
>> How do you live with yourself? You must've smashed all your
>> mirrors by now.
>
>I think he has more problems with people like you then himself
>
I really don't understand the logic in some people. This
Chad character kills me. I'm not supposed to be allowed
to express my opinion because I disagree with him. But at
the same time I'm supposed to praise the 'freedom' that
the US gives me to express my opinion (but only if it
agrees with Chad).
I can live just fine with myself. I'm not the one
fiegning anger in face of truth. I'm not the one trying
to cover my ignorance with insults. I face the problems I
have in myself, just like I face the problems I see in my
country. How about you?
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathaniel Jay Lee
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
From: Chris Wenham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:35:57 GMT
>>>>> "letoured" == letoured <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We know that you don't the brains to carry on an intelligent
> conversation.
I see, and saying "Go away, asshole" somehow nominates you into the
category of "intelligent conversationalist"?
Regards,
Chris Wenham
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:34:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
>aoYt5.38870$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "Nathaniel Jay Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> > I like how he says, "I'm not saying we're superior" and
>> > then proceeds for a few paragraphs to show why he think we
>> > are.
>>
>> Do you guys even read one sentance of what I write?
>
>Unfortunatly, yes
>
>> I never said we're superior, I just said we've got the
>> telco thing figured out and you're getting mad at us for it.
>
>No, that's not why we were getting mad, it's because of you're attitude that
>we got mad
>
>> All I'm saying is (for the 11th time now) quit whining and
>> fix your own telco problems and join us! We'd love to have
>> more people on the Internet. Preferably ones who can
>> read and who have some thread of independant thought, but
>> hey, the more the merrier.
>
>Erm, who's the one that's got no independant thought? Not i...
>
>> Instead they insist on insulting me and saying I'm somehow
>> showing a superiority complex.
>
>You are, live with it
>
>> It's not that hard folks, really.
>
>Nope, it would only require one line from you
>
>> > And BTW Chad, I'm not a whiny Brit. I'm a whiny American,
>>
>> You're a whiny asshole is what you are. You don't even
>> know what the hell you're talking about.
>
>He seems to know better then you
>
>> > sick of seeing other Americans act like assholes just
>> > because they are part of the 'Great United States'.
>>
>> <sigh> Then move to Europe, prick. See how you like it
>> there if the States suck so bad.
>
>He might actually find that the only difference would be the people's
>attitudes
>
>> No one's being an arrogant asshole but you and a few of
>> these other jerks.
>
>And don't forget to include yourself here now
>
Believe me when I say Chad, "I am sitting back, laughing
at how ridiculous the US has become, and hoping to save up
enough money to get out." (remember when I said that, way
back up the thread).
I find most Europeans to much more reasonable than most
Americans (like you said Christophe, the additudes are
different). And I would much
rather live there than be associated with people like Chad
just because I'm an American. Not to mention that from
what I hear, TV isn't held in nearly as high a regard in
Europe as it is here, and I won't be considered an outcast
because I didn't see what happened on Frasier and Friends
last night. For god's sake, you would think people in the
'greatest country in the world' could find something a
little better to do with their time than watching brain
dammaging moronic television (although having said that I
have to admit that my wife has been getting me to watch TV
wrestling, and I'm starting to question whether I want to
keep watching it. Oh well, four hours a week <shrug>).
You keep sticking your head in the ground there Chad.
Pretend we (as a country) and you (as in individual) are
perfect, and you ought to stay happy for a long time.
(As my father said to me one morning, years ago, "If
ignorance is bliss then I'm the happiest man alive.")
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathaniel Jay Lee
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From: "D'Arcy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:43:22 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Software licenses are never non-transferable. You cannot be prevented
> from selling what you own.
Well lets take a look at a licenses shall we?
Battlezone II - non-transferable.
Oops I didn't have to look far - that was the first one I picked off
my shelf...
..darcy
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From: "D'Arcy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:48:27 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said D'Arcy Smith in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >I beleive that the licensing probably in enforcable. I don't think that
> >it should be.
> OK, I'll just go with this, then. The rest is just you going back and
> forth just like you do here. Apparently, D'Arcy, you are a bit
> conflicted.
How am I in conflict? I really don't see why you think so.
> But the plain truth is that on a situation like this, you have to demand
> your right to insist that the law be as it should be.
Another assumption on your part - you think I won't/don't.
> You don't have to *know* all that precedent and substantiation in order
> to know that the license "should" be unenforceable to stand up for your
> rights and say 'it is not enforceable'. I'm not saying you have to say
> that. But posting, at several opportunities, that it is legal to
> implement the software with a license in order to refute the point that
> a license excludes some systems from reading DVDs sounds like nonsense,
> to me, if you believe that the license should not be enforceable.
Well here you missed what I was saying each time. Perhaps I should
have made it clearer (I did in my last two posts). It is clearly
acceptable.
Not having a license in not clearly anything at the moment.
Regardless you seem to forget that I was responding to the
blanket statement that it is illegal to have DVD software on
(IIRC) Linux. If I can find one instance where it is not
illegal then that blanket statement is false (see your
non-transferrable thread too - don't run off making assumptions
about what I think on software licenses though).
..darcy
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From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Paul_'Z'_Ewande=A9?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop
platform
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:02:09 +0200
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le message news:
8p9s9v$8jt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<SNIP> Hilarious post </SNIP>
> See my reply to Erik on this issue within this thread, it applies to you
> too.
Hmmm, I think you missed the _heavy_ sarcasm, or I missed yours :)
Paul 'Z' Ewande
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 15:08:19 GMT
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:17:22 +0200, Christophe Ochal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Quantum Leaper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
>diZt5.17875$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
><cut>
>
>> Vikings, Romans, Nazis and Crusades need I go on? Maybe learning your
>> European history may help. The Europeans killed more native americans in
>> the first 100 years, than the USA ever did. It wasn't though war but
>> though disease. More than half of the population for the americas were
>> wiped out though European diseases.
>> 'Nam was started by the French. The Nazis killed more people than the USA
>> ever did, in any single war.
>
>vikings, Romans, Crusades, these were committed by both our ancestors, as
>for the Nazis yes, they killed millions of people, but tell me, how many
>were killed in Hiroshima in one day?
About the same as a week of carpet bombing. Is dying from nuclear
fire really any worse than getting splattered by tnt?
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ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
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