Linux-Advocacy Digest #661, Volume #29 Sat, 14 Oct 00 21:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Claire Lynn (sfcybear)
Re: Microsoft kicked off the Web! ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Suggestions for Linux ("Philo")
Re: Claire Lynn ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: David T. Johnson lies again (Marty)
Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux (Gary Hallock)
Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux (Gary Hallock)
Re: Ms employees begging for food (sfcybear)
Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux ("Les Mikesell")
Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux (sfcybear)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (Loren Petrich)
Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux (Gary Hallock)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (Loren Petrich)
Re: Suggestions for Linux (sfcybear)
Re: Claire Lynn (sfcybear)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (Loren Petrich)
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Claire Lynn
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 22:56:52 GMT
And you, claire, are the bigest joke here!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Pure entertainment. This collection of misguided, lost souls is one of
> the most hilarious groups on the net.
> Nothing more nothing less.
>
> claire
>
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 02:15:46 GMT, "Vann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I've been lurking around this group for a few weeks now, and I've
noticed
> >a large volume of posts being made by Claire Lynn. I don't have
anything
> >
>
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft kicked off the Web!
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:37:50 -0500
"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message > >Two things happening here. Microsoft is getting a smaller and
smaller
> >share of the server market (but still growing slightly), but they are
> >targeting strategic servers, such as the front-end web server.
>
> A random question from the peanut gallery -- what the hell is
> a "front-end Web server"?
I think that should just be "front end server". Meaning that there are
servers on the back-end, such as SQL servers, transaction processors, etc..
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:41:03 -0500
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It is with no small amount of chagrin that I point out that I was once
> pro-Windows, if not pro-Microsoft. I was a strong champion for
> implementing Windows on PCs in the late eighties. This was before I was
> aware, of course, of the reality of the anti-competitive strategies that
> Microsoft was engaging in. I was primarily advocating implementation of
> multi-tasking GUIs to replace the simplistic DOS environment, and
> explicitly expected competition in such GUI environments. When it
> became clear that this wasn't going to occur, it was investigating why
> this was the case which made me aware of per-processor licensing, the
> empty charade of the DR-DOS warning, and all of the other illegal tricks
> that MS played to maintain their criminal monopoly.
Why would you have advocated the use of Windows 1 and 2.x? They had no
applications, and didn't multitask DOS apps. That seems silly. Windows did
not become a viable corporate product until Windows 3, which came after "the
late 80's".
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:00:36 -0500
"Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ
> >
> > You know, not once does it mention in the ipchains how-to this command
line.
> > It took many hours of frustration and fiddling the first time I set up a
> > masq box. The documentation on this just plain sucks and is years out
of
> > date.
>
> I had no problem finding it. Section 3.3 "Configuring IP Forwarding
Policies"
> in IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.
I said ipchains-howto. The IP-Masquerade-HOWTO doesn't seem to exist on any
distribution I have (though I haven't checked my Mandrake 7.1 CD yet). It
certainly doesn't exist on the RedHat 6.1 CD.
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Linux
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:50:10 -0500
if you know what you know what you are doing...linux could be made very easy
by merely just doing away with the *gui* altogether...
i have had barely over a year's experience with computers and often get
frustrated with the gui & the seemingly endless series of questions and
dialog boxes...when
all you have to do is open an editor and just modify the configuration
file...save and exit...
all in a matter of a few seconds.
i am still reminded of the time when my baby sister was first learning how
to use a fork...
she could not quite get her peas onto it...so she picked up the peas with
her hand and put them on the fork...just like the gui.
the command prompt is analogous to just putting the peas in your mouth
directly with your hands...
maybe not so pretty...but quite a bit more efficient...
and the command prompt has one other advantage:
you don't get your hands dirty :)
--
Philo
website: www.plazaearth.com/philo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Claire Lynn
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:59:12 GMT
Whatever.
Most of the Linvocates in this group can't advocate their collective
ass's out of a paper bag. They may be technically astute, but their
companies lock them away in rubber coding rooms far from the clients
because they are so, well, geeky.
They use a variety of tricks to worm and slither around an arguments.
1.Change the subject.
2.Don't even address the subject.
3.Drag other topics into the subject.
4. Play semantics.
5.Offer absolutely no proof when they are contested.
6. Out and out lie.
7.Compare current Linux to version a of Windows 95.
8. Resort to name calling when all else fails.
A pathetic bunch of geeks infest this group. But you do serve a
purpose. You guys have absolutely no idea how much slap-stick
entertainment you provide for so many folks just looking for a laugh.
Linux can be quite funny at times. Especially with a sorry bunch of
fools advocating it.
This group is the biggest joke on the entire net. It gets mentioned in
the trade rags all the time as well as in user groups, at least where
I live. We think it is hysterical.
You are your own worst enemies because people wander into this group,
take a look around and say to themselves, "These Linux people are a
miserable lot". And they are.
We got a guy who talks like Dr. Seuss.
We got a guy who writes a dissertation to every question.
We have a guy who can't use a spell checker.
Another one who just makes up "facts" as he goes along.
A couple of Sci-Fi nuts with this Tholen thing that goes on forever.
A couple of developers, why the hell they are here is beyond me?
Some nasty folks.
People complaining when their 486 computer won't work.
People who like to dissect every word all the time ignoring the
context of the statement.
You guys even have to kill filter your own advocates.
Yes we have it all here in COLA.
It's just like a Circus, only better.
I have to wonder how many are kids either in High School or College.
It's quite obvious that some have never seen the inside of a glass
house.
claire
On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 22:56:52 GMT, sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>And you, claire, are the bigest joke here!
>
>
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Pure entertainment. This collection of misguided, lost souls is one of
>> the most hilarious groups on the net.
>> Nothing more nothing less.
>>
>> claire
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 02:15:46 GMT, "Vann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I've been lurking around this group for a few weeks now, and I've
>noticed
>> >a large volume of posts being made by Claire Lynn. I don't have
>anything
>> >
>>
>
>
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From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: David T. Johnson lies again
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:03:18 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Marty writes:
>
> >>> David T. Johnson wrote:
>
> >>>> You continue to repeat the same arguments which futilely attempt to
> >>>> characterize my replies to your personal attacks and name-calling as
> >>>> 'harassment and denigration' of OS/2 developers. You have falsely
> >>>> accused me of harassment and denigration of OS/2 developers. For that,
> >>>> you will have to answer.
>
> >>> I'll let you know when I'm scared. In the meantime, get on with your
> >>> life and try not to be such a hypocrite in the future so that we can
> >>> avoid these situations.
>
> >> Practice what you preach, Marty.
>
> > Likewise.
>
> I didn't preach anything in the above statement, Marty. However, you did.
Incorrect. You preached that I should practice what I preach. I'm suggesting
that you practice the act of practicing what you preach.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:09:12 GMT
Classic example of the Linvocate not responding to what was written
but inserting what proves HIS point.
They must have some kind of a secret manual that teaches them how to
do these things.
claire
On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:00:36 -0500, "Erik Funkenbusch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ
>> >
>> > You know, not once does it mention in the ipchains how-to this command
>line.
>> > It took many hours of frustration and fiddling the first time I set up a
>> > masq box. The documentation on this just plain sucks and is years out
>of
>> > date.
>>
>> I had no problem finding it. Section 3.3 "Configuring IP Forwarding
>Policies"
>> in IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.
>
>I said ipchains-howto. The IP-Masquerade-HOWTO doesn't seem to exist on any
>distribution I have (though I haven't checked my Mandrake 7.1 CD yet). It
>certainly doesn't exist on the RedHat 6.1 CD.
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:16:01 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
>
> I said ipchains-howto. The IP-Masquerade-HOWTO doesn't seem to exist on any
> distribution I have (though I haven't checked my Mandrake 7.1 CD yet). It
> certainly doesn't exist on the RedHat 6.1 CD.
Yes, I know what you said. But if you want to do ip masquerading, why not
look in the IP-Masqueade doc instead of ipchains?
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html
Gary
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:18:54 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Classic example of the Linvocate not responding to what was written
> but inserting what proves HIS point.
>
> They must have some kind of a secret manual that teaches them how to
> do these things.
>
> claire
>
Classic example of a Windows zealot. Ignore the docs and then claim Linux docs
are bad. If you want to do ip masquerqing then look for the doc for ip
masquerading, not ipchains.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html
Gary
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.arch,comp.os.netware.misc
Subject: Re: Ms employees begging for food
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:09:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
neJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:04:24 -0400, unicat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >A picture claiming to show former monoposoft employees begging for
food...
> >An image from a site dedicated to spreading the "truth"-
> >
> >http://www.nwlink.com/~rodvan/microsoft/street1.html
> >
> >Don't let this happen to you. Learn linux now ;-)
>
> You sure that picture wasn't really of Linux investors??? Red Hat is
> down what, 90% from it's high?
I guess your not bright enough to see the windows logos. eh?
>
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:25:28 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Classic example of the Linvocate not responding to what was written
> but inserting what proves HIS point.
>
> They must have some kind of a secret manual that teaches them how to
> do these things.
>
If you ask really nicely, maybe someone will show you how
to spell http://www.linuxdoc.org.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:17:48 GMT
In article <Ma6G5.1146$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ
> > >
> > > You know, not once does it mention in the ipchains how-to this
command
> line.
> > > It took many hours of frustration and fiddling the first time I
set up a
> > > masq box. The documentation on this just plain sucks and is years
out
> of
> > > date.
> >
> > I had no problem finding it. Section 3.3 "Configuring IP
Forwarding
> Policies"
> > in IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.
>
> I said ipchains-howto. The IP-Masquerade-HOWTO doesn't seem to exist
on any
> distribution I have (though I haven't checked my Mandrake 7.1 CD
yet). It
> certainly doesn't exist on the RedHat 6.1 CD.
come on, it's just not that hard.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/
most every thing you want to know.
and right from the IP-chains how to:
# ipchains -P forward DENY
# ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -j MASQ
# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
Masq up and running, just that fast! IT was at the very TOP of the
IP-chains HOW-TO and has worked on every redhat and mandrake system I've
used that uses ipchains! Of course you do need to know that the -i means
interface so if you want to use an ethernet interface you would need to
use eth0 or what ever is appropreate. You ARE smart enough to figure
that out, Right?
>
>
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From: Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:32:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Loren Petrich wrote:
> Are you alleging that the welfare rolls are NOT filled with drunks,
> drug-addicts, and out-of-wedlock-breeding sluts.
I fail to see what gives Mr. Kulkis his supposed superior expertise
on this question.
> > I wonder if this is the way that Mr. Kulkis does accounting for
> > system resources of the computer systems he administers. If so, then
> > it's a miracle that he has not gotten seriously purged.
> All in favor of purging Loren Petrich, raise your hands.
At least if we have a similar vote about purging Aaron Kulkis.
> That's why you're still stuck in the politics of the 1870's-1890's
???
> > > > for making disrespectful remarks about our President.
> > > As opposed to teeling the wrong joke on a college campus....
> > Seems like some right-wing urban legend.
> Then why did the Supreme Court get involved?
> Hmmmmmm.
> University of Michigan and University of Wisconsin speech codes were
> STRUCK DOWN by the Supreme Court.
Cry me a river. You'd be bawling like hell if the SC had struck down
some college's speech code that had forbade supposedly "unpatriotic" or
"anti-free-enterprise" speech.
> > Don't be too sure that you will always have some other source of
> > income. **** happens.
> Be sure to repeat that to yourself 1000 times when your apartment gets
> burglarized.
????
--
Loren Petrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Happiness is a fast Macintosh
And a fast train
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:33:55 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A classic example of unfriendly Linux
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ
> > >
> > > You know, not once does it mention in the ipchains how-to this command
> line.
> > > It took many hours of frustration and fiddling the first time I set up a
> > > masq box. The documentation on this just plain sucks and is years out
> of
> > > date.
> >
> > I had no problem finding it. Section 3.3 "Configuring IP Forwarding
> Policies"
> > in IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.
>
> I said ipchains-howto. The IP-Masquerade-HOWTO doesn't seem to exist on any
> distribution I have (though I haven't checked my Mandrake 7.1 CD yet). It
> certainly doesn't exist on the RedHat 6.1 CD
By the way, I just checked. IP-Masquerade-HOWTO is available on Redhat 6.1:
/usr/doc/HOWTO/other-formats/html/mini/IP-Masquerade.html
/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/IP-Masquerade
You guys just don't bother checking even the most basic things. If you are
going to complain about Linux documentation, then at least do a little research
first.
Gary
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From: Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:38:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Loren Petrich wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, STATIC66
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 05:04:05 GMT, Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> Purdue out-of-state tuition is NOT subsidized, and I wasn't
> > > >> getting anything from my parents, either.
> > > > Cry me a river. I presume that you reimbursed the government for the
> > > >cost of military training also.
> > > Yes I did, with hard work, sacrifice and months and months away from
> > > my family, whilst you enjoyed the freedoms I was protecting.
> > Enjoy feeling sorry for yourself. Did you pay in MONEY???
Furthermore, Mr. Kulkis shows a remarkable unwillingness to live
with the consequences of his actions. It's as if he decides to
flagellate himself and then whine about how much it hurts.
> Loren, you owe every serviceman a LOT more than what you have paid
> them. If it was not for us, you would be the impoverished subject
> of some totalitarian regime.
> Pay UP, asshole.
I'd prefer not to pay someone who seems as if he'd be an eager
Quisling who would gleefully purge supposed enemies of the people.
--
Loren Petrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Happiness is a fast Macintosh
And a fast train
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Linux
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:28:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
unicat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At the risk of providing fuel for the Wintrolls, I am posting some
> friendly criticism of Linux and the Gnome/KDE GUIs.
> (Notice to Microsoft, you can't copyright any of these ideas,
> I am hereby copyrighting c2000
> them and placing them in the public domain)
>
> Linux will never complete its dominance of the computing world
> if we are simply striving to be "as good as" Windows. We must set
> our sights on an OS that is not just more reliable, but much much
> easier to use than MS if we are going to see continued adoption of
Linux
>
> on the desktop. Along these lines, here are some suggestions:
>
> 1) We need to kill off the "Cult of UNIX" mentality.
> There are too many Linux advocates who are old-line UNIX
> gurus, who believe in the "users should have to earn the right to
> use a computer" ethic. You can see this in the LPI and Redhat
> certification, where the text command line rules supreme. The
> attitude seems to be "If you really want to use Linux, we'll force
> you to learn the bourne shell -bwah-hah-hah-hah!" This anti-social
> elitist mindset is CRIPPLING linux, and we desperately, desperately
> need to eliminate it!
> 2) We need to completely eliminate the command line interface.
BS. In many cases it is easier to do some stuff from a comand line.
There is no reason to get rid of the command line to beable to do what
ever you want from a GUI.
> That's right. Get rid of it. Anything that can't be done from a
> GUI isn't worth doing. Remove ed,vi,emacs,vim, telnet, rlogin,
rsh,
> and especially getty from the distribution package completely.
> Run ppp on all serial lines by default. PCs are cheaper than
VT100s,
>
> and we can use X-windows over ppp instead of curses. To
> replace telnet and rlogin, use an http link and HTML pages that
> use cgi to run commands.
> 3) We need to add superior functionality to the Linux GUI, like
> the "Halflife" game, with openGL and 3-D icons for linux
functions-
>
> a) A restaurant. F'rinstance, you boot linux, and you see a first
> person view of yourself walking into a restaurant. You sit at a
> table,
> and tux the penguin walks over and hands you a menu. The menu has
> linux programs grouped on pages with clickaable tabs. You click a
> tab for
> say, graphics, and a page turns to all the graphics programs .
You
> click
> on a menu selection to start up the corresponding function.
> b) An office building. You find yourself walking down a hallway,
> each door leads to either a room or another hallway. Rooms are
> directories with representational 3-D icons for files (like a TV
> for viewing
> animations, or a filing cabinet full of documents, each of which
is
>
> a spearate manilla folder). Hallways are directories of
> directories.
> We could produce a tool like a .wad file editor to allow users to
> customize the 3-D environment.
> 4) DWIM, or Do what I meant -
> Instead of setting up a user interface with the goal of
outsmarting
> the user
> and finding clever ways to keep them from doing what they want, make
> the goal
> of the user interface to figure out and implement what the user
> "meant" to do.
> a) Have defaults for everything - paths, settings, verbosity, etc.
> and always fill in the
> defaults for anything the user forgets.
> b) Always warn the user about doing stupid things, like when they
> enter
> * and .txt as spearate files to be removed, when they meant *.txt
alias rm rm -i. but I don't want all that warning crap. that's one of
the reasons I stoped using MS
> c) Never ever ever ask the user to provide the same information
twice
> -
> keep everything they ever tell you in a KEYWORD=value file.
> standardize
> the use of keywords, and always check this file before asking the
> user for some fact.
> d) Run a background process once an hour to check the integrity and
> consistency
> of all configuration files - and fix them so they work.
> e) The ten year old test - If 90% of ten year old kids can use an
> application
> without training - it's user friendly enough to be DWIM.
10 year olds can not design aircraft cariers, why sould a program that
is used to design aircraft cariers be that symple? In fact, it CAN NOT
be so symple that a 10 year old can use it.
>
> 5) Put all files in an associative index which provides the user with
> date, owner, subject,
> occurence of a text string, and filetype clues for finding files,
> which can be used
> instead of a file path whenever a file must be located.
>
> Easy to do? No! But worth doing if we really want Linux to win!
I do not want unix or linux to win at that price! You do not need to
make Linux as stupid as MS software to win.
>
>
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Claire Lynn
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:30:54 GMT
And you ignore most of what is said. You are as bad or worse that most
of the Linux advocates, you just don't know it. I have seen you do all
of what you have claimed linux advocates of doing. Go wash out your
panties
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Whatever.
>
> Most of the Linvocates in this group can't advocate their collective
> ass's out of a paper bag. They may be technically astute, but their
> companies lock them away in rubber coding rooms far from the clients
> because they are so, well, geeky.
>
> They use a variety of tricks to worm and slither around an arguments.
>
> 1.Change the subject.
> 2.Don't even address the subject.
> 3.Drag other topics into the subject.
> 4. Play semantics.
> 5.Offer absolutely no proof when they are contested.
> 6. Out and out lie.
> 7.Compare current Linux to version a of Windows 95.
> 8. Resort to name calling when all else fails.
>
> A pathetic bunch of geeks infest this group. But you do serve a
> purpose. You guys have absolutely no idea how much slap-stick
> entertainment you provide for so many folks just looking for a laugh.
>
> Linux can be quite funny at times. Especially with a sorry bunch of
> fools advocating it.
>
> This group is the biggest joke on the entire net. It gets mentioned in
> the trade rags all the time as well as in user groups, at least where
> I live. We think it is hysterical.
>
> You are your own worst enemies because people wander into this group,
> take a look around and say to themselves, "These Linux people are a
> miserable lot". And they are.
>
> We got a guy who talks like Dr. Seuss.
> We got a guy who writes a dissertation to every question.
> We have a guy who can't use a spell checker.
> Another one who just makes up "facts" as he goes along.
> A couple of Sci-Fi nuts with this Tholen thing that goes on forever.
> A couple of developers, why the hell they are here is beyond me?
> Some nasty folks.
> People complaining when their 486 computer won't work.
> People who like to dissect every word all the time ignoring the
> context of the statement.
> You guys even have to kill filter your own advocates.
>
> Yes we have it all here in COLA.
>
> It's just like a Circus, only better.
>
> I have to wonder how many are kids either in High School or College.
> It's quite obvious that some have never seen the inside of a glass
> house.
>
> claire
>
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 22:56:52 GMT, sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >And you, claire, are the bigest joke here!
> >
> >
> >
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Pure entertainment. This collection of misguided, lost souls is one
of
> >> the most hilarious groups on the net.
> >> Nothing more nothing less.
> >>
> >> claire
> >>
> >> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 02:15:46 GMT, "Vann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>
> >> >I've been lurking around this group for a few weeks now, and I've
> >noticed
> >> >a large volume of posts being made by Claire Lynn. I don't have
> >anything
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:40:42 GMT
In article <8s00v3$1c61$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "." wrote:
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > "." wrote:
> >> Your mind is erased in basic,
> > Wrong.
> Actually, quite correct. Having many military men and women in my family
> (mostly
> marines, some army, two navy and one airforce) I can say with absolute
> certianty
> that the entire idea behind basic training is to homogenize thought and
> action.
In effect, the military is shamelessly collectivist.
--
Loren Petrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Happiness is a fast Macintosh
And a fast train
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