Linux-Advocacy Digest #882, Volume #29 Sat, 28 Oct 00 00:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: MS Hacked? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS Hacked? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS Hacked? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS Hacked? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why don't I use Linux? (Terry Porter)
Re: MS Hacked? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS Hacked? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Oh Drrresssssssssssssstin......was [Re: MS Hacked?] ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why should I keep advocating Linux? ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Linux ("Colin R. Day")
Re: Linux ("Colin R. Day")
Re: MS Hacked? (mlw)
Re: MS Hacked? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Hacked?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:45:50 -0400
mlw wrote:
>
> Stuart Fox wrote:
> >
> > Could the source code get out somehow, or is this just a hoax?
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_993000/993933.stm
> >
>
> Very cool. All we have to do is wait. Sooner or later the code will be
> posted, and we will get a good laugh.
I wonder how many fucking gotos are in the kernal?
>
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Hacked?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:46:09 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Stuart Fox wrote:
> >>
> >> Could the source code get out somehow, or is this just a hoax?
> >>
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_993000/993933.stm
> >>
> >
> > Very cool. All we have to do is wait. Sooner or later the code will be
> > posted, and we will get a good laugh.
>
> Especially if some gpl'd code is found. :-)
I smell lawsuit!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Hacked?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:47:13 -0400
MH wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Stuart Fox wrote:
> > >
> > > Could the source code get out somehow, or is this just a hoax?
> > >
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_993000/993933.stm
> > >
> >
> > Very cool. All we have to do is wait. Sooner or later the code will be
> > posted, and we will get a good laugh.
> >
>
> No, but it would be interesting. Looking at NN's code would be funny.
> But then it is open now, isn't it.
> And I would guess that is why the folks at Mozilla decided on a complete
> re-write of it.
> Something tells me they didn't find it "funny."
>
> I love everyone's attitude about MS's source code somehow being "funny", or
> full of "goto's" and on and on. The truth is that none of you would more
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are you saying that people who have seen code-snips sent by M$ are lying?
> than likely even know what you were looking at if the source code for a MS
> office app or a MS os was in front of your face.
> Yet you make these statements because you can write a trivial C program or
> an sql statement.
> Or hell, even a device driver. Try even thinking about what is involved in
> the process of bringing a product like Word for Windows to market.
> Oh, I know. It's SSSOOOO easy to write this stuff, isn't it?
> You're all so full of yourselves.
> And living in a dream world.
> A constructed fantasy of self grandeur.
> Wake up people
> The play has started, take your seat.
> Theatre of the absurd is what it is called.
>
> Casting stones from your glass houses.
>
> Let he who can post his source for his best program here and now, lay waste
> by way of comparison to the code of any MS application in use today. Let us
> see the code, hot-shots.
> Put up or shut up.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Hacked?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:50:38 -0400
MH wrote:
>
> I deride nothing in linux. Only the absurdity of Linux advocacy.
Yes, it is Soooooooooooo absurd to advocate the use of a more
reliable, more-cost-effective, more flexible product.
How fucking STUPID of us.
> I wasn't the one who said that seeing MS's source code would be "funny."
> I'm not living in a fantasy land, and therefore have no delusions about my
> abilities, or, by the same token, the abilities of those who write
> commercial software. I respect those with more knowledge than myself. The
> same can't be said for the majority in here.
>
> "Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8td09q$8g4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > : Let he who can post his source for his best program here and now, lay
> waste
> > : by way of comparison to the code of any MS application in use today. Let
> us
> > : see the code, hot-shots.
> > : Put up or shut up.
> >
> > If you consider this a prerequisite of having an opinion on the
> > matter, then let's see *YOUR* source code that is better than
> > stuff you deride in Linux. Or else you can be branded a hypocrite.
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Why don't I use Linux?
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 Oct 2000 03:05:04 GMT
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:44:15 GMT, Pete Goodwin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why haven't I switched from Windows to Linux?
Because your a Wintroll of old ???
Goodwin is still hopeing to get a "Windows Bounty" on published anti Linux
articles.
>
>In a word: Software.
How much fo you need ?
My 1997 Linux Cheapbytes CD had a couple thousand packages on it, and all
for about $6.
>
>There are packages on Windows for which there are no equivalents on Linux
>that I can see as yet.
And vice versa mate! Want examples ?
Lyx, Gschem, Xpcb, Koules, DDD, Xlogmaster, Visudo, Cron etc
Recognise those names .... I'm not supprised.
>
>Borland Delphi and C++ Builder are two of these packages. They are going
>to appear on Linux, but not yet.
Your used to Windows "vapor ware" why not wait a little longer ?
>
>Paint Shop Pro is a cheap graphics package that beats any of the free
>packages I've seen on Linux.
Youve never used the Gimp then, and thats $$FREE$$.
>
>Word is not my favourite tool and there is Star Office on Linux.
There is also LYX and numerous others, you have to get out more Goodwin.
>
>Excel is a pretty good spreadsheet - I've not really tried anything
>on Linux.
Exel is excellent, shame its so expensive.
>
>Digiguide is a TV listing guide available for the UK. Is there any
>equivalent for that on Linux, again UK based?
Write one ?
>
>My sound card, an ESS Allegro is not supported by Linux.
So what ?
>
>3D Sound is not available on Linux.
So what ?
>
>USB devices are not fully supported on Linux - my USB ZIP 250 drive and HP
>scanner are not supported. Is there anything for my USB Intel WebCamera?
Who knows, do you know how to use a search engine yet ?
>
>XNews is a news reader on Windows; there are plenty of news readers on
>Linux.
True.
>
>My US Robotics 56k modem is supported on both Windows and Linux, no
>problem there.
Course not, its just a modem.
>
>CD writing is supported on Windows and Linux, though I've not
>tried it on Linux.
So no problem there.
>
>I use WinZIP - what's the Linux equivalent? gzipped tar archives!
Yeah and theyre excellent, try them sometime. If they werent any good, we
wouldnt use them.
Its just a different way, can you get your mind around it ?
>
>I have a Series 5 Psion - is there connection software on Linux for it?
Who knows, write one if there isnt.
>
>Unreal Tournament is on both platforms; the lack of 3D sound on Linux
>is a problem. Same with Quake III Arena.
I think a Hi-Fi systema and a Nintendo are all you need Goodwin.
>
>Firewall software exists on both Windows and Linux; I use ZoneAlarm
>on Windows. Is there something as easy to setup and use on Linux?
Yep, security is built in to Linux.
>
>What would make me switch to Linux?
Nothing Wintroll.
>
>The unreliability of Windows 98 SE. I'm not talking about Windows NT or
>2000 here, just 95/98/ME. My system is currently getting crankier every
>day. I put up with it because of the lack of software on Linux but I
>could try switching to Windows 2000. Everything I've mentioned above
>works on Windows 2000 (except possibly CD writing and the scanner, dunno
>about those).
Just get your $400 out and buy Win2k, then you can find out ?
After all money is no problen for you, your a Windows user, used to paying
endless dollars for upgrades and faster hardware.
>
>--
>Pete Goodwin
--
Kind Regards
Terry
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Hacked?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:51:42 -0400
Philo wrote:
>
> QAZ??? hacking into Microsoft?
> hmm...i suppose
> next we'll hear that Bill Gates really invented Linux.
Well, that's a toughie....Al Gore is claiming it also.
>
> --
>
> Philo
>
> website: www.plazaearth.com/philo
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Hacked?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:52:23 -0400
"Bobby D. Bryant" wrote:
>
> Nigel Feltham wrote:
>
> > Who will ever trust any of their products ever again.
>
> Who should be surprised?
>
> The only really interesting questions about this whole thing are, IMO,
>
> a) who was the thief,
>
> and
>
> b) what did MS say/do to the employee(s) who ran the trojan and gave the
> villans access?
>
> The latter is interesting especially interesting, since MS has been so adamant
> that the weakness-by-design is "a feature" and "easily locked down", whenever
> they come under criticism after the latest worm-of-the-month costs world
> businesses several Gigabucks.
>
Hoisted on their own petard.
Poetic justice, if you ask me.
> Bobby Bryant
> Austin, Texas
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oh Drrresssssssssssssstin......was [Re: MS Hacked?]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:54:32 -0400
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> Stuart Fox wrote:
>
> > Could the source code get out somehow, or is this just a hoax?
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_993000/993933.stm
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> I wonder why our resident genius is at right now?
>
> OH CHAD!
Dreeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssstinn
Where are you, you little fucking WEASEL???
>
> Microsoft has fallen and can't get up!
>
> --
> Charlie
>
> By 2005 Microsoft will be displaced by
> LINUX - THE POWER OF A GNU GENERATION!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why should I keep advocating Linux?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:03:43 -0500
spicerun wrote:
> So I guess I have to conclude that I'm not a Linvocate that plays by the
> Linux Advocacy rules (who made these rules anyhow?). Comments?
Frankly, I was never the club-joining toe-the-line type, so I advocate
whatever I want however I want.
I do recognize that excesses in advocacy can have the opposite of the
intended effect, but that's true whatever you are advocating.
So advocate however you please, staying aware that keeping one's head
screwed on is advantageous. Take the how-to as advice, but not as law.
And when people start pushing for too much conformity, break rhythm just to
show you still can.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
------------------------------
From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:17:02 -0400
Brandon Van Every wrote:
> "Steven Smolinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> > It's too bad you don't actually state any facts as evidence of your
> > 'assessment,'
>
> Because it's a religious issue. I'm not here to convert you, my first
> Linux kernel was 0.99something back in early 1993, I did all the "run a
> public freeware project" stuff, and I gave up around 1996. Industry
> experience gives people certain perspectives and you'll either agree or
> disagree with the perspectives. Finally, I think you're rather naive
> about the nature of the universe if you think it is parseable mostly
> according to "facts." Spend some time in the social sciences.
And which facts should he cognize there?
Colin Day
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:17:55 -0400
Brandon Van Every wrote:
> "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:9JoK5.129033
> >
> > I also hope, eventually, people will shun the exchange of data in
> > proprietary
> > formats (such as .doc). Wide adoption of Linux would probably ensure
> that,
> > but it's mostly a separate issue.
>
> Wide adoption of the Linux is impossible in the corporate desktop and
> home desktop markets. Why? Because Linux is fundamentally a "roll your
> own" OS that's hostile to idiot users. Which is what word processing
> is: idiot use.
Linux is hardly "roll your own" nowadays.
Colin Day
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Hacked?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:19:47 -0400
MH wrote:
>
> > I have seen the quality of Microsoft code first hand. I worked at
> > Turning Point Software, when they were doing a contract for Microsoft. I
> > was the Windows archetect for the products that eventually became
> > Creative Writer and Fine Artist.
>
> I'm not going to dispute whether what you claim is true. I don't have the
> time nor patience to do so. I do, however, find it difficult to believe
> that someone who claims to have been an architect can't spell architect.
> That is not an attack, it is a fact. A reasonable conclusion that anyone
> would come to, I might add.
Ahh, funny. Make an accusation, and then claim you don't have time,
cute.
What I say is true, believe it or not. Spelling errors? A combination of
typos and phonetic spelling as I type, and being too lazy to run spell
check.
>
> > The stuff is near to impossible to read because of the virulent use of
> > Hungarian notation. A practice which has a place, in moderation.
>
> Hungarian notation has nothing to do with the quality of source code. If it
> makes the collaboration of 100's of programmers lives easier by having a
> common grammar, then so be it. This does not support your claim one iota.
So you say, but people not exposed to various dialects of Hungarian
notation have trouble. For instance: the office group uses a very strict
hungarian, while the os groups use a more relaxed dialect. It would
(maybe not) surprise people that there is infighting about extremism on
hungarian notation.
>
> > > Let he who can post his source for his best program here and now, lay
> waste
> > > by way of comparison to the code of any MS application in use today. Let
> us
> > > see the code, hot-shots.
>
> > I can not post my best source, because it belongs to people who have
> > paid me. I have posted, peridically, and in various places, non-trivial
> > code from time to time.
>
> I don't doubt that you have. Still, I find it suspect when someone who
> claims to write code for a living attempts to discredit the work of others
> without providing tangible credenitals. And again, you misspelled a key word
> in your statement. I hope you take more time with your client's code than
> you do your posts here.
Oh, please, you are gonna say I am lying because I misspelled a word?
Give me a break. So you are calling me a liar? Well, you presume a bit
too much. You have no f&^%^king right to call me a liar. You have no
clue.
>
> > > Put up or shut up.
>
> > I do not have to "put up" for you. I have paid my dues and my opinions
> > of Microsoft are from first hand experience. Should you disagree with my
> > opinions, feel free. As for sutting up, I don't think so.
>
> For me? Of course you don't. --"put up or shut up" is a figure of speech,
> as you well know.
> If you can live with making disparaging opinions of other's work with
> nothing but lip service to back it up, fine. I don't think it lends weight
> to any of your arguments to do so, however.
By what right do you say "nothing but lip service?" I write software for
a living. If you doubt my claims, I bet a smart person (sorry, this
probably precludes you) could easily verify my entire history should
they be so inclined.
Do I have to prove my credentials for a news group posting? Absolutely
not. Do you have to believe me, no, not at all. Do you have the right to
call me a liar? NO, not without evidence that what I say is not true,
other wise, what you are doing is libel (because it is written) should I
sue you?
So in the put up or shut up arena, I have given testimony why I think
the MS source code will be funny. I can legally sue you for defamation
if you do not come up with some evidence that I am lying (I am not),
because you said I was. So, here we are, as a matter of public record, I
have stated opinions and provided a set of credentials. You have called
me a liar. I am not a public figure, thus you have damaged me.
You should apologize, or are you going to be an idiot?
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http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Hacked?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:02:00 -0400
Stuart Fox wrote:
>
> Could the source code get out somehow, or is this just a hoax?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_993000/993933.stm
>
I expect the Russian FSB (successor to the KBG) to make lots of loud,
"we're-investigating-night-and-day" noises, and then, once out of
camera-and-microphone range, to laugh among themselves and then
retire to Xali-Gali, Candyman, or some other local nightspot and
have fun with the girls. Tomorrow, they will start helping the
perpetrators by introducing as much obfuscation as possible.
Why? Because they don't give a fuck about Bill Gates, no matter
how much he whines....and that is their way of dealing with
self-righteous crooks like Gates who don't cut them in for a
share of the action.
> Stu
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
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