Linux-Advocacy Digest #882, Volume #33           Tue, 24 Apr 01 18:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Rick)
  Re: Communism (theRadical)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Rick)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Rick)
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Joseph T. Adams")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
  Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product (Craig Kelley)
  Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
  Re: Communism ("Joseph T. Adams")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)

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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 23:10:17 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:

>
snip
> 
> Typical LoseDOS idiot.
>
snip
>
Typical Outlook-User.  Have a look at his odd-designed Postings, even 
Beta-Status KNode does a better job.

Cheers

Ralph Miguel Hansen
Using S.u.S.E. 4.3 and SuSE 7.1



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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:14:24 -0400

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > No wonder you guys are MS haters. You were brainwashed for 4+
> > > years about the evils of Corporate america while you were taught
> > > archaic technology and then dumped into a Corporate america with
> > > no real skills, but lots of knowledge but computer systems which
> > > haven't been used in 15 years.
> > >
> > > College... gotta love it!
> > >
> > > -c
> >
> > MS provided alot of the software at the Uni, however, Microsoft was also
> > used as the poster child of what happens when you don't follow the
> > Software Development Life Cycle properly and try short cuts to save
> > time. The whole University relyed on Unix using Samba to connect the
> > Wintel clients to the server, I never had any problems the whole I was
> > there was never any problems with the server.
> >
> > Personally, I love capitalism, and Microsoft is living proof of what
> > happens when you break the rules of the market place, you get hauled
> > through the courts. Look at the UNIX market place, cut throat
> > competition between IBM, SUN, SGI and UNISYS, something sorely lacking
> > from the consumer marketplace.
> 
> That's exactly what I'm talking about. Microsoft got railroaded through
> the courts, not hauled. The appealate courts will fix the injustice
> committed against them by an admittedly biased and ignorant judge, not
> to mention a DOJ with some sort of stupid cause, and a bunch of Attorneys
> General who are merely puppets for Microsoft's competitors in their own
> state who can't seem to find a way to compete with Microsoft because they're
> too inept (Sun, Novell) so they think they can cry to the Government for
> help.
> 
> -c

Tell that to Go, Stac, Digital Research, Netscape, and all the users
that have not had the opportunity to purchase alternate OS machines off
the shelf, and have had to pay artificially high prices for M$ OSs.
-- 
Rick

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (theRadical)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:14:09 GMT

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:54:30 -0400, Strabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



>Agreed. Now if only Kulkis would shorten his signature block...

he uses it as a substitute for his nonexistent cue and balls.  


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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:16:43 -0400

JS PL wrote:
> 
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Personally, I love capitalism,
> 
> Secretly, you don't.
> 
> >and Microsoft is living proof of what
> > happens when you break the rules of the market place, you get hauled
> > through the courts.
> 
> Every large comany participates in lawsuits and court battles as a matter of
> routine business. You mistakenly pretend that it's a reflection of their
> ethics. Microsoft customers know differently. That's why it's the chosen OS
> product of 98% of all PC users.
> 

The users did not "choose" Microsoft OS's. That choice was made when IBM
chose MS-DOS, and Microsoft railroaded per-processor licenses, which
were also tied to things like Word.

> >Look at the UNIX market place, cut throat
> > competition between IBM, SUN, SGI and UNISYS, something sorely lacking
> > from the consumer marketplace.
> 
> You have no idea what your talking about do you?

Where is the competitoin in the consumer OS market? Where. It was
literally killed by Microsoft.

-- 
Rick

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:18:13 -0400

JS PL wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > > And your a College Educated Unix Engineer.....who only uses
> > > Windows..Pffft..
> > > >
> > > > Even after I explain the deception, he still doesn't get it.
> > >
> > > Explaining something which is possible isn't proof that your doing it.
> Your
> > > using Windows98 and lying about it. Your worse than Devlin who uses it
> and
> > > claims he's forced to do it.
> > >
> > > > > After you deal with your own lies, you can begin throwing
> accusations
> > > > > around.
> > > >
> > > > So, what college campus did you trespass upon?
> > >
> > > SDSU - dropped out after a year, and have never looked back.
> >
> > Says it all, really.
> 
> Says what? I was making more at in my twenties way back in the 80's than you
> claim to make now!

What does racing horses  have to do with knowledge of computer systems?
-- 
Rick

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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:18:38 GMT


"Roberto Alsina"

> >> > If the prosecution proves you were in no mortal danger, or would not
> >> > have reasonably believed you were in mortal danger, then self-defense
> >> > becomes wrongful death.  If you want to play games, that is.  But I
> >> > think the fact that you pulled my comment out of context is enough to
> >> > show your lack of argument.
> >>
> >> In some jurisdictions in the USA a stranger invading your house is
grounds
> >> for use of fatal force.  You're not required to show that you were in,
or
> >> thought yourself to be in, mortal danger.
> >
> >
> >Yep, this is very true in South Carolina and Texas (probably other
> >states also).  The law is referred to as the "Don't Ask" law.  If
> >an intruder breaks into my house here in Texas then the State gives
> >me the right to be judge, jury, and executioner.  The incident won't
> >even go to the grand jury.
>
> Actually, I think the situation right now is that it is not legal
> to kill the intruder, but that the attorneys hace decided not to
> prosecute that specific crime.

You are again wrong.  The "situation right now is" that it is legal to kill
the intruder in some jurisdictions without having to prove you felt yourself
to be in mortal danger.

> There's a gulf between "legal" and "not prosecuted".

There is also a gulf between the truth and what you believe to be true.



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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:20:58 GMT


"Roberto Alsina"

> >> >Such as stating a soldier killing in war equates to murder.
> >>
> >> Which I never did, in those terms. Go check the archives and see.
> >
> >
> >See the three examples below.
>
>
> Sure enough, let's!
>
> >You, Roberto, are not a truthful man.
>
> You, bill, are not a smart man.
>
> >
> >This is from 4 April 01 in the "communism" thread
> >
> >"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >> And indeed I consider all soldiers fighting a war their country starts
> >> to be assassins, in many ways.
> >> --
> >> Roberto Alsina
>
> Bzzt!. Here I equated killing in some wars to murder. Not "killing in
war".


Quibble



> >______________________________________________________________________
> >__________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >This is from a post of your dated 21 Apr 01 in this thread.
> >
> >"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> >> I personally believe any killing not in self defense, including
> >> killing at war, should be considered murder.
>
> Bzzt!. Here I equated some killings at war with murder. Not "killing in
war".

Quibble.

>_______________________________________________________________
> >
> >And here is a 22 Apr 01 post of yours from this thread
> >
> >"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> >> >Interesting. So you belive that a soldier that initiates a contact
with
> >> >the enemy in a war and kills said enemy in the process is a murderer.
> >> >Does that mean he also has to be tried for war crimes?
> >>
> >> No, I think he should be tried for murder.
> >> Of course if he is defending himself from an agression it
> >> may count as self defense.
>
> Bzzt!. Here I equate some killings at war (notice how the example depends
> on the killing soldier initiating the contact) with murder, not "killing
> in war", and specifically say that it may be self-defense, thus not
> punishable.

Quibble.

Quibbling simply weakens your credibility.





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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:25:05 GMT


"Roberto Alsina"

> >  The only reason I "need" in order to own as many guns as
> >I want to own, is that I choose to own them.  That is fact.  That is the
> >reality.
>
> Choosing is not a reason. Choosing is the outcome of a reason. You are > a
confused man.

Yet if any controlling legal authority were to ask me why I was purchasing
another gun, I'd simply state "Because I choose to", and I'd complete the
transaction.  Pretty simple.



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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:25:39 GMT


"Roberto Alsina"

> >> Social organizations. Voluntary work. Lobbying.
> >
> >For whom have you lobbied and for what?
>
> Is that any of your business?

You are the one claiming to act on your beliefs.



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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:26:56 GMT


"Roberto Alsina"

> >> >Are you saying our societies are the same.  Please, describe this
> >"global"
> >> >society for us all.
> >>
> >> Let's put it this way: there's a lot of local colour.
> >
> >And that is your description of the "global" society you say exists.
>
> No, it ain't. I was just not responding to your question.

Yet the request remains unanswered.  I'll state it again.  Please, describe
this "global" society for us all.




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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:28:13 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>: How does eating fish on fridays connect to loving my neighbour?
:>
:>You may be confusing the teachings of a particular sect (the Roman
:>Catholic Church) with those of Christ.  They're not necessarily the
:>same thing.

: Well, I'm afraid you have to pick your sect before you can say anything
: at is the "teachings of Christ".  He didn't necessarily even exist.


There is ample evidence for the life of Christ.  There are very few,
if any, historians who doubt His existence.  Most of those who are not
Christians doubt the veracity of the Biblical accounts of His life,
but that is an entirely separate issue. 

Also, all mainstream Christian denominations are in complete agreement
regarding what Jesus said.  There are a few places where they do not
agree about what He *meant*.  That is an entirely separate issue as
well.

The prohibition against eating meat on Fridays was a rule of the Roman
Catholic Church, not a teaching of Christ, and it is no longer in
effect, except in Lent.  It hasn't been for decades.

If you want to discuss Christianity, it would be a good idea to learn
a little more about it.  Roberto would be well advised to do the same.
He is very knowledgeable about KDE, among other things, and you are
knowledgeable about many things as well.  But neither of you
demonstrates any grasp of the fundamental teachings of Christianity at
all, and that makes it fairly difficult to have a rational discussion
about it.


Joe

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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:28:47 GMT


"Roberto Alsina"

> >You'll never sit on a grand jury in the USA, nor
> >will you ever sit on a trail jury in the USA.
>
> Now, that you can't tell. I could immigrate, you know.

Immigration isn't enough to qualify.



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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:28:56 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett) writes:

> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:35:02 -0400, JS PL <hieverybody!> wrote:
>
> >Due to continuous improvement, Windows XP will have built in ability to
> >write to cd's. Then we shall all witness the weeping and wailing and
> >knashing of teeth from anti-MS crowd about  the harm big bad Microsoft is
> >purposely inflicting upon Adaptec et al.
> >
> >
> 
> It's a shame that the "almighty" Windows can't even do something as
> simple as letting a user write to a CD/RW drive...don't you think?
> 
> Oh I forgot....that'll be something we can pay $money$ to do in the
> next release.
> 
> Linux, of course, had no problem doing this whatsoever.

It's a wonder that Cutler's Cathedral (NT) allows the simiple user to
access the floppy disk without requiring SYSTEM privileges.  I mean,
it *would* be more secure...

-- 
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:36:48 -0400

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > >
> > > and all that means... you are a unix dude... ok. so?
> > >
> > > Gee, an OS that is bogged down by _buggy apps_  who'd a thunk?
> > > I'll bet I can create a buggy app that'll bog down any OS if the bugs were
> > > gnarly enough eh? silly...
> > >
> > > memory usage too high? What's the yardstick? If you compare usage to
> > > Commadore 64 levels then even Linux is a memory PIG! However, we're not. And
> > > 256 megs of ECC RAS2 memory will set you back a whooping $89 - do you really
> > > need to be concerned about 486's running with 32 megs?
> >
> > $89, no, its is not, you are looking at least $NZ150 for 128MB RAM, that
> > is standard, off the shelf memory, I have 384MB of RAM, which works out
> > to be around $NZ450 worth of memory in my computer.  The memory usage of
> > an OS sound be as minimal as possible, for example, the Amiga 500 used
> > 100K to load Workbench 1.3.2 out of 1.5MB of ram (excluding the
> > FastMem), compare that to a Average computer, at 128MB, which the OS
> > alone takes up 32MB of RAM, that is an example of bloat.
> 
> No, it's called improved functionality. To compare the workbench and
> a modern OS is rediculous.
> 
> Perhaps you could compare the kernel since Amiga had pre-emptive multitasking,
> etc. But Amiga didn't have DirectX, it didn't have COM+, it didn't have
> plug-n-play
> for many unrelated devices with drivers from many, many different vendors, it
> didn't have any of the functionality that modern OSes have, yes even Linux which
> is tough to call a modern OS, but it's more modern that Amiga.

Chad...Windows is a 1950's OS with a graphical front end.

Hope that helps.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:37:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Roberto Alsina"
>
>> >> > If the prosecution proves you were in no mortal danger, or would not
>> >> > have reasonably believed you were in mortal danger, then self-defense
>> >> > becomes wrongful death.  If you want to play games, that is.  But I
>> >> > think the fact that you pulled my comment out of context is enough to
>> >> > show your lack of argument.
>> >>
>> >> In some jurisdictions in the USA a stranger invading your house is
>grounds
>> >> for use of fatal force.  You're not required to show that you were in,
>or
>> >> thought yourself to be in, mortal danger.
>> >
>> >
>> >Yep, this is very true in South Carolina and Texas (probably other
>> >states also).  The law is referred to as the "Don't Ask" law.  If
>> >an intruder breaks into my house here in Texas then the State gives
>> >me the right to be judge, jury, and executioner.  The incident won't
>> >even go to the grand jury.
>>
>> Actually, I think the situation right now is that it is not legal
>> to kill the intruder, but that the attorneys hace decided not to
>> prosecute that specific crime.
>
>You are again wrong.  The "situation right now is" that it is legal to kill
>the intruder in some jurisdictions without having to prove you felt yourself
>to be in mortal danger.

Be a bit more precise in what you mean by "some jurisdictions" and we may
have an argument.

If you mean South Carolina, for instance, the law has not changed,
all that has happened is an announcement by the DA about his unwillingness
to prosecute. At least that's what I recall from the news.

Sadly, I can't find any references right now. Perhaps you can do better?

>> There's a gulf between "legal" and "not prosecuted".
>
>There is also a gulf between the truth and what you believe to be true.

Indeed, that's by default true of anyone. Except chad, who speaks with 
god.

-- 
Roberto Alsina

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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:38:45 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: In 1900, people were already smart enough to know that anyone who
: believes in an absolute position is wrong and a danger to everyone
: around them.


Thereby setting the stage for by far the most bloody and violent
century in human history.

Those folks were wrong then, and you are wrong now.


Joe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:40:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Roberto Alsina"
>
>> >> >Such as stating a soldier killing in war equates to murder.
>> >>
>> >> Which I never did, in those terms. Go check the archives and see.
>> >
>> >
>> >See the three examples below.
>>
>>
>> Sure enough, let's!
>>
>> >You, Roberto, are not a truthful man.
>>
>> You, bill, are not a smart man.
>>
>> >
>> >This is from 4 April 01 in the "communism" thread
>> >
>> >"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> >> And indeed I consider all soldiers fighting a war their country starts
>> >> to be assassins, in many ways.
>> >> --
>> >> Roberto Alsina
>>
>> Bzzt!. Here I equated killing in some wars to murder. Not "killing in
>war".
>
>Quibble

I suppose by quibble you mean "bill made an obvious mistake".

>> >______________________________________________________________________
>> >__________________________________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> >This is from a post of your dated 21 Apr 01 in this thread.
>> >
>> >"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> >
>> >> I personally believe any killing not in self defense, including
>> >> killing at war, should be considered murder.
>>
>> Bzzt!. Here I equated some killings at war with murder. Not "killing in
>war".
>
>Quibble.

Well, kid, if you cant read I can't help much over usenet.

>> >
>> >And here is a 22 Apr 01 post of yours from this thread
>> >
>> >"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> >
>> >> >Interesting. So you belive that a soldier that initiates a contact
>with
>> >> >the enemy in a war and kills said enemy in the process is a murderer.
>> >> >Does that mean he also has to be tried for war crimes?
>> >>
>> >> No, I think he should be tried for murder.
>> >> Of course if he is defending himself from an agression it
>> >> may count as self defense.
>>
>> Bzzt!. Here I equate some killings at war (notice how the example depends
>> on the killing soldier initiating the contact) with murder, not "killing
>> in war", and specifically say that it may be self-defense, thus not
>> punishable.
>
>Quibble.

Obvious lack of reading skills on your side, I'd say.

>Quibbling simply weakens your credibility.

Being functionally illiterate weakens the credibility of your wits.
Be a man, take a remedial reading class.

-- 
Roberto Alsina

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:41:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Roberto Alsina"
>
>> >  The only reason I "need" in order to own as many guns as
>> >I want to own, is that I choose to own them.  That is fact.  That is the
>> >reality.
>>
>> Choosing is not a reason. Choosing is the outcome of a reason. You are > a
>confused man.
>
>Yet if any controlling legal authority were to ask me why I was purchasing
>another gun, I'd simply state "Because I choose to", and I'd complete the
>transaction.  Pretty simple.

I am not a controlling authority and I was the one asking.
Why did you choose to answer like if I was a controlling authority?

-- 
Roberto Alsina

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:41:51 -0400

jet wrote:
> 
> MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ELUE6.1381$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is
> a
> > > > self
> > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > >
> > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a
> > man
> > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > >
> > > LOL.
> > >
> > > J
> >
> > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal pay.
> > The point I was making, my opinion obviously, is that a man is a
> > "flagellating idiot" if he were to marry a feminist.
> >  Get it now?
> 
> A woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a man for the same work
> is a feminist.

When her work is truly the same.

A woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a man, for work which
is NOT the same *IS* a feminist.


> Get it now?
> 
> J


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:42:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Roberto Alsina"
>
>> >> Social organizations. Voluntary work. Lobbying.
>> >
>> >For whom have you lobbied and for what?
>>
>> Is that any of your business?
>
>You are the one claiming to act on your beliefs.

Indeed. So? I am the one claiming, and I am the one that knows.
Is that any of your business?

-- 
Roberto Alsina

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