Linux-Advocacy Digest #712, Volume #30 Thu, 7 Dec 00 08:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Take a conglomeration of copper and silicon and make it useful (westprog 2000)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Linux growth rate explosion! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux growth rate explosion! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux growth rate explosion! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:34:57 -0500
JM wrote:
>
> On 05 Dec 2000 10:09:31 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> (Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Act like an adult, and I'll treat you like one.
> >
> >
> >Oh the irony!
> >
> >
> >> Until then, I'll treat you like some playground-jerk, as that is
> >> congruent with your current behavior.
> >>
> >> Do you get it, rectum-face?
> >
> >
> >That's it, Aaron. Congratulations on becoming the only entry in my
> >killfile. Your constant childish insults add nothing to the
> >discussion in this forum. You are the antithesis of a Linux
> >advocate. You would do well to read and memorize the Linux Advocacy
> >HOWTO. You are by far the most annoying poster in this newsgroup, and
> >that is indeed an impressive accomplishment with posters the likes of
> >Chad Myers, MH, and claire_lynn here.
> >
> >And before you accuse me of being a Wintroll, please check the
> >headers.
> >
> >And let me be about the one thousandth person to say your sig is
> >annoying.
>
> And apparently he lies about fighting in the Gulf.
You disagree with the Department of Defense?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:37:05 -0500
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
> [snips[
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
>
> > > You can BS and wax philosophical all you want, but what it really comes
> down
> > > to is, if you want to have a decent, professional display and control
> over it,
> > > Linux would be the last choice.
> >
> > You mean compared to the high-school spaghetti code produced
> > in Redmond????????
>
> Sorry, I missed something; what does some hypothetical "spaghetti code" have
> to do with the functionality and capability of the display system? Even
> assuming the display system's code was an unmaintainable nightmare, as long
> as it met the criteria provided - "decent, professional, control over it" -
> it wouldn't matter; it would still meet the requirements.
It fails on ALL of those counts, and more.
Spaghetti code is a reliable indicator that the programmer who wrote
it is not completely sure about what the fuck he's supposed to be doing.
>
> As an example, I worked on a chunk of code - not designed or implemented by
> me, I was simply fixing bugs - which was a maintenance programmer's worst
> nightmare; it was so bad we ended up tossing it out and reengineering from
> the ground up for the next version. The version that _shipped_, though, the
> version based on the horrible, unmaintainable code, neverthelese got written
> up as one of the most flexible and configurable tools of its type. Quality
> of code and _functionality_ of _application_ are not necessarily related.
Really? Quality is DEFINED BY THE FUNCTIONALITY, you moron.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: westprog 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Take a conglomeration of copper and silicon and make it useful
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 12:29:25 GMT
In article <NY8X5.670$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "westprog 2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:90j068$4tm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
...
> Teaching a pupil to rely on his/her knowledge and not a compiler to
> catch
> mistakes isn't a bad thing at all. The first couple of tries will be
> very
> frustrating. You learn quick though. Speaking from experience here.
> Besides,
> most errors are logical and a compiler or VM can catch only the most
> obvious. We humans are far better than they are in that area.
There are many errors which will slip past even the most rigorous
compiler - but many errors will also evade discovery through even a
stringent testing program. Trainee programmers need to be taught this
as almost their first lesson. They need to learn that half an hour
spent scrutinising their code while it is still on paper/in the editor
can save months of effort when the program has been deployed.
...
> They're made easier when a student has no option but to correct them
> to make
> his/her program work. Again, speaking from personal experience.
When a buggy prgram passes the arbitrary set of tests prescribed, the
programmer has the false impression that the program is correct. A look
at the quality of most application software on the market will show the
consequences of that attitude.
...
> > But many programming faults do not bite you in the ass immediately.
> > Sometimes you can fix them by using a logical patch.
> > Example - a novice programmer runs one past the end of an array
> >(uses a
> > <= instead of a <). The correct fix should be in the guard for the
> > loop
> > - but increasing the size of the array by one will work just as
> > well.
> An example of a logical error.that won't be caught by a high level
> compiler
> or interpreter. The assembly student and the VB student will have to
> resort to the exact same techniques.
Which is why I favour making the programmer start by writing the thing
out on paper, and demonstrating, to his/her own satisfaction, and the
satisfaction of the instructor, that the thing works. That is hard
work, if done right.
...
> If you think I advocate just sitting a pupil down in front of a
> terminal,
> handing him/her an opcode book, and saying "OK, now, be a programmer",
> you're mistaken. No-one said anything about ignoring the boolean
> table,
> top-down or modular design, loop structure, data structures, or
> documentation practices. All I advocate is parking their fannies in
> front of
> a terminal to put those ideas into quick practice, ASAP.
I favour giving them a pencil and paper, and a hard time.
...
> > No, the programmers job is to specify how data is to be extracted
> > from
> > a table. It is the job of the copper and silicon to take the
> > programmers instructions and execute them.
> And I'm arguing that the job gets done better and more efficiently
> when a
> student truly understands the machine he/she is writting for.
I don't think it needs any more than a grasp of the different orders of
speed involved in accessing random memory and sequential long term file
storage. Someone can be a good, useful programmer with little
understanding of the internals of the machine. They simply need to know
the behaviour of the interface layer that they are dealing with.
...
> Have you ever noticed the plethora of poorley written device drivers
> today?
> The Windows drivers in particular?
I have noticed that the standard of all modern software is woefully
low. Device drivers are no worse than the rest of the stuff.
...
> > The learner programmer should be thinking about one thing - the
> > program. Worrying about the box it will possibly run on should be
> > left for later.
> Why?
Because programming is hard. It is difficult to write good programs,
without having to learn about computers as well.
...
> > What programmers need to do when they start is to write programs,
> > and
> > to read them, and to see whether they will work or not. The easy
> > availability of computing equipment has made the code/debug/fix
> > cycle far too easy.
> Good Lord, yes. I'm all for having it written out beforehand. That
> should always be manditory.
Not just written out - analysed, tested and debugged - all on paper.
(Or using a text editor, I don't mind).
> They still need to get their feet wet ASAP though. I'm
> tired of all the hand-holding that passes for education today.
I'd let a programmer access a machine at about the same stage of his
career as a doctor is let deal with a patient.
> > My first programming job was on a lathe. There is quite an
> > incentive to
> > get it right first time under those circumstances.
> LOL.
> Been there. Did a lot of work upgrading and interfacing to milling
> machines
> and lathes. And yes, mistakes are EXPENSIVE!
But noisy and entertaining. Programming a waterworks is good as well.
Programming (or hardware) errors can result in map changes.
--
J/
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:40:38 -0500
JM wrote:
>
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:15:43 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >> (I think that should be something that appears on the status line
> >> at the bottom: "Composing action to repeat N times".)
>
> >There's a simple solution to all of this.
>
> >If in doubt, hit the escape key. This puts you in command mode.
> >Then hit type "i" to begin inserting at your current location.
>
> Wouldn't it be easier to have a character in the corner telling you
> which mode you were in?
No. At the time, many connections were at 300 baud, and many
terminals did not have randomly addressable cursors.
Thus, EVERY time you changed modes, it would take an average
of 100 characters to move the cursor to the corner, change
the mode indicator, and then move the cursor back.
At 300 baud..that's 3 seconds...assuming that you're actually
getting full throughput on the line (i.e. if the system is
heavily loaded, it will be even worse).
>
> <excessively long sig snipped>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 12:41:31 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >
> > Tom Wilson wrote:
> > >
> > > > You've been listening to Rush, ain't ya?
> > >
> > > I get most of it the same place HE does...The AP NewsWire. Anything of his I
> > > can't verify through a reliable source gets ignored.
> >
> > I *knew* you were listening to Rush.
>
> Is that a crime now?
No. BUT IT SHOULD BE! Think of all the days wasted listening to
this cretin! Think of all the ill-feeling, illogic, rage, contumely,
generated by this bloviating bozo. "Institute for Advanced Conservative
Studies", indeed. More like a front for hebephrenics! They should
clap that clown in irons, stick him in a small box with spikes on
the inside, and force him to listen to Leo Buscaglia tapes.
He should be tried for high treason against the President of the
United States!!! Ladies and gentlemen, you are smart people.
You know I'm right. I'm always right. I proved it back in 1993
when I predicted that the first President to get a blow job would
be a Democrat. Midnight basketball!!! Elain!!!! Clinton!!!! Monica!!!!
Gore!!! Chinese!!!! Vince Foster!!!! I WAS RIGHT!!! RIGHT!!! RIGHT!!!
I am always RIGHT!!! THAT'S THE WAY IT OUGHTA BE!!!! I TOLD YOU SO!!!
SAY!!!!!?? WHAT THE HELL IS THIS JACKET!!! THE buttons are in THE
BACK!!! GET OFFA ME. FOLKS, BETTER START UNCONCEALING YOUR WEAPONS!!!
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS LIBERAL "KOOK" IS GOING DOWN!!!
Unhand me, you tool of that Anti-Christ, Gore and his donkey-hoofed
minions, magna mater! Magna mater! a ngaiii, R'yleh tchuggai,
Yog-Sothoth, the she goat with a thousand young! Aiiii! Aiiii!
C'thulhu! Eaiiii t-chh-chh..............
------------------------------
From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 12:44:04 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Get rid of Demoncrook WACKOS and the party will be devoid of leadership.
>
> It's pretty fucking sad for the Left wing when the "sanest"
> leader in their camp is that basket-case Ralph Nader.
Get rid of the Repubican wackos, and the party will be devoid of
members!
All in fun,
Chris
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux growth rate explosion!
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:45:03 -0500
Mike Byrns wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > Les Mikesell wrote:
> > >
> > > "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:yyCX5.5940$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > RUNAS USAGE:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Once again, LoseDOS is about 15 YEARS BEHIND UNIX.
> > > >
> > > > So, your position is, basically, that if Windows lacks something, it
> > > sucks,
> > > > and if it gets that thing, it sucks for getting it too late. By this
> > > > reasoning, even if Windows adopted _all_ the supposed benefits of Linux -
> > > > open source, more solid security, increased configurability, whatever - it
> > > > would still suck, despite having effectively the same functionality. Does
> > > > that about sum it up?
> > >
> > > It would stop sucking if it had text files controlling all configurations so
> > > you could use revision control systems on them, diff two different ones,
> > > generate patches for automatic updates and the like, and if it could compile
> > > and run most open-source and home-grown software developed over the
> > > thirty-year history of unix systems. If OS-X pulls this off with a nice
> > > GUI on top, why can't windows?
> >
> > Because OS-X was written by people with a decent education with the
> > people, whereas LoseDOS was written by a bunch of high school
> > hacks who think that "goto" is an sophisticated programming construct.
>
> Aaron,
>
> You apparently fail to note that Microsoft hires preferentially from
> Carnegie-Mellon and other such bastions of computer science.
You're saying that C-M teaches their students to write spaghetti code?
> CM is precisely
> where the OSX kernel was developed. Your hate deludes you.
>
> Mike
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux growth rate explosion!
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:46:59 -0500
Mike Byrns wrote:
>
> Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> > "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:yyCX5.5940$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > RUNAS USAGE:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Once again, LoseDOS is about 15 YEARS BEHIND UNIX.
> > >
> > > So, your position is, basically, that if Windows lacks something, it
> > sucks,
> > > and if it gets that thing, it sucks for getting it too late. By this
> > > reasoning, even if Windows adopted _all_ the supposed benefits of Linux -
> > > open source, more solid security, increased configurability, whatever - it
> > > would still suck, despite having effectively the same functionality. Does
> > > that about sum it up?
> >
> > It would stop sucking if it had text files controlling all configurations so
> > you could use revision control systems on them,
>
> Export the registry node you are interested in.
>
> > diff two different ones,
> > generate patches for automatic updates and the like,
>
> Double click the .reg file for automatic update.
>
> > and if it could compile
> > and run most open-source and home-grown software developed over the
> > thirty-year history of unix systems.
>
> When there are more user friendly Windows programs that do all the same things?
>
> > If OS-X pulls this off with a nice
> > GUI on top, why can't windows?
>
> Microsoft certainly could. If they wanted to or really thought that anyone
> wanted them to. Truth is UNIX is hard to use. X is clunky and the
Really?
I spend more time fire-fighting on ONE Windows box than on a whole
50-machine department of Unix boxes at work.
> johnny-come-lately Windows UI ripoffs just aren't nearly as good as Windows.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux growth rate explosion!
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:48:03 -0500
D'Arcy Smith wrote:
>
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:MVgX5.34724$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Doesn't seem to exist in NT.
>
> What does this have to do with Java?
Who cares?
Is java in the subject line?
a) yes
B) NO
Is this being cross-posted to a java group?
a) yes
B) NO
>
> ..darcy
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:50:29 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:eHHX5.1913$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:44HX5.2279$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > In NT, a user mode program cannot capture C-A-D, thus it cannot
> simulate
> > > an
> > > > NT login in a way that would fool someone that has ever logged into NT
> > > > before. It would be immediately obvious that something was wrong
> unless
> > > > they were paying absolutely no attention.
> > >
> > > I'm almost willing to bet it is possible...
> > > If I get bored Thursday night, I might just fire up VC++ and see. I've
> > > captured Alt-Tab and most of the others (POS software that can't be
> exited
> > > or switched w/o a password) I outgrew the hacker shit years ago, but, I
> > > need a break from the project I'm working on. Sounds like fun!
> >
> > You do that. If you figure out a way to do it without requiring admin
> privs
> > to install on a locked down system, I'll send you $50. (I'm not joking
> > either). Not exactly a stellar return for your investment of time, but
> not
> > chicken scratch either.
>
> My chances of pulling it off are pretty small, I know...
> But, hell, remember Buster Douglas?
>
> As upset as I am with Windows tonight (I'm programming) I have the incentive
> to slap it around a bit. Wish me luck, eh?
I'll bet the NT equivalent of /dev/mem is unprotected.
>
> --
> Tom Wilson
> Go home Al....
> Game over, man!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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