Linux-Advocacy Digest #792, Volume #30           Sun, 10 Dec 00 16:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: Uptimes (Pan)
  Re: Caifornia power shortage... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: What if Linux wasn't free? (mlw)
  Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. (Charlie Ebert)
  Re: Caifornia power shortage... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Caifornia power shortage... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Caifornia power shortage... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Caifornia power shortage... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Caifornia power shortage... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: Pan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:15:58 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Chad C. Mulligan" wrote:
> 
> "Pan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Chad C. Mulligan" wrote:
> > >
> > > Agreed, it definitely has the largest selection of text editors every
> > > gathered in one place.
> >
> > Plus you don't have to worry about an OEM version of the OS preventing
> > you from installing a given browser.
> >
> 
> Neither do I. If there was one worth installing.

You would if you had bought a Dell PC around 1997.  Try and install
Netscape Navigator Gold 3.11 from the CD on the Dell with win95 oem
version.  As for text editors... try and run ms works, which was
installed as part of the distro on the same pc out of the box.

Or, with a win98se oem version, try and find any HP drivers that they
contracted MS to support. You won't be able to find a significant
portion of them anywhere b/c MS did not release the drivers with the oem
version of the distro.  MS did not make the drivers available on their
site b/c they were supposed to be released with the OS cd, which is not
the case for tens of thousands of their customers who have an oem
version of the product.  

Or, with the win98se oem version,create a dual partition system and then
install win from the cd.  It automatically overwrites the entire HD and
does not allow the creation of multiple partitions.

Or, install the DLL updates required to install an Epson Stylus color
600 on a windows 95 machine. Now open wordperfect 7 and gaze in wonder
at the false font allocation error message you receive.  program works
fine.  prints fine, but the dll update flags it as an error.

Those are just from my experience.  How many hundreds of other cases are
there just like them?

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://salvador.venice.ca.us

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Caifornia power shortage...
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:20:14 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> >Mike Marion wrote:
> >>
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Actually, the REAL problem is that the ECO-NUTS in California shut
> >> > down practically every fission power project that came down the pike
> >> > in the 1970's.
> >> >
> >> > If those plants had been built, a lot of oil-fired and coal-fired
> >> > plants would have been taken off-line a long time ago AND Cali.
> >> > would STILL have surplus capacity.
> >>
> >> Not to mention the growth here.  I mean, jesus, we don't have enough power for
> >> the people here, yet I've not heard a single official (or SDG&E reps) suggest
> >> that perhaps we should slow down the massive home building constantly going on
> >> here.  What's going to happen in a year, or two when our population grows by
> >> that much more?
> >>
> >> I shudder to think.
> 
> >Leftwing Liberal paranoid eco-freak's worst nightmare...
> 
> >Public DEMANDS for nuclear power plants.
> 
> >Of course, this is exactly the situation which the radical left
> >was hoping for....a general degradation of life in the US...it's part of
> >their overall strategy of trying to cause internal collapse within the United
> >States so that a power-vacuum will occur, allowing them to sweep into power
> >and install a Communist state.
> 
> What a mythical world you live in. The shortage is a predictable result of
> utility deregulation.  The radical left force it. It was the right and the
> left power brokers that get on their knees when big-business and bankers come
> calling, and all the average people who said NIMBY to new plants.

Your statement only REINFORCES what I said.


> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----------------------------------------------------------


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What if Linux wasn't free?
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:20:55 -0500

Swangoremovemee wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:08:54 -0500, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >I neither confirmed nor denied any such status. You are making
> >assumptions, but, hey what can we expect from an "ME" you're, like,
> >qualified to do ... what?
> 
> Earning a degree shows that the person has the intelligence and
> perseverance to be able to perform up to a certain standard level.

Depending on the university, that can be correct. One can sail through
some universities and understand little of what was presented. At MIT
this is very hard, at someplace like Northeastern this is less hard.

> 
> It is simply a piece of paper that confirms that the person is able to
> take on a task and stick with it till completion. Nothing more or
> less.

Yes, and this is sort of the point of my post. A piece of paper from
someone who worked through collage is far more than a piece of paper
from a rich kids who's parents paid the way and goofed off. It is the
amount of dedication and ability which we strive to measure.

A degree in itself is meaningless, when you sit across the interview
table with a candidate you try to measure a few things: "can they do the
job?" "will they do the job?" "Will they work well with the team in
place?" A degree can only weigh a portion of one question, and
experience and references weigh more.

> 
> My 25 years in this business is worth far more than any piece of paper
> will ever be and it is my experience that the majority of people in
> the field have degrees in non related fields, like me. Morgan Stanley
> (a large investment bank) only hires Ivy League liberal arts graduates
> for IT jobs and then trains them in house.

Oh, hmmm. Do you think this is wise?

> 
> It is also my experience that the biggest whiners about degree'd
> workers are the people who don't have a degree.

I am not whining at all, I am just pointing out that some very valuable
people, certainly people who make way more then either of us, have no
degree. Bill Gates, for one, is a collage drop out. It just gets my ire
up when people talk like it is important. I have hired several excellent
people and seen them stagnate and move on to other companies, while
complete morons have been promoted, because of the paper prejudice of
those in control.

I degree is a big accomplishment, I think we all agree on that. Is it,
however, a bigger accomplishment than learning all one needs to know, on
their own, and building a successful product? One shows an ability to
absorb information, the other shows both that you can absorb the
information and apply it creatively.

I think you are not as far away from my views than you let on, and you
just want to be contentious. That's OK, it is an advocacy group.


-- 
http://www.mohawksoft.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:21:27 GMT

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:47:44 GMT, 
Tom Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Swangoremovemee wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 08 Dec 2000 22:41:11 -0600, "Bobby D. Bryant"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >If you actually cared, you'd be sending your complaints to the makers
>of
>> > >those devices, rather than airing them on c.o.l.a.
>> >
>> > Nothing wrong with the hardware.
>> >
>> > Works on Windows and Mac.
>> >
>> > Linux is the weak link here.
>>
>> Surprise!  Some hardware requires OS-specific drivers, O Computer Guru.
>>
>> If the vendors are shipping good drivers for Windows and the Mac, but not
>> for Linux, then you should be complaining to those vendors and threatening
>> to take your business elsewhere, instead of whingeing about it here.
>
>Exactly!
>
>
>--
>Tom Wilson
>Registered Linux User #194021
>http://counter.li.org
>

I've been using Linux since 1994 and it's never destroyed anything
on any computer I've owned.  Not a hard drive, not a video card nor
monitor.  Not a mouse nor keyboard.  Not a floppy drive or CD rom.
Not a tape drive.  Nor a modem.  

And when it comes to hard drives, I've been able to mount and
use hard drives which were only intended for UNIX use before
they came out with the LBA format system.

If you have a problem with a hard drive then you probably 
are either using the wrong driver OR you are attempting
to run applications for which you have not enough memory
and your swapping out too much.


Charlie

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Caifornia power shortage...
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:23:01 -0500

Woofbert wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Static66
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I read that they haven't built a power plant in over 15 years, yet in
> > that same time the population of california has basically
> > doubled...piss poor government planning..
> 
> How DARE you question the wisdom of the past Republican administrations?

Clue for the fucking clueless:...although there are a lot of Communists
in California, they have not yet suceeded in attaining state-ownership
of the electric utilities.

In fact...it was traditional republican interests who were TRYING
to get more electric plants built, but the eco-communists tied up
every project in court to the point that even proposing a new plant
was a losing proposition.

Well, the chickens have come home to roost, and the eco-communists, and
their "useful idiot" supporters have nobody to blame but themselves.

> CA government has built a *lot* of new jails ... and, in their wisdom,

And crime has dropped accordingling...

> has cut back on building schools and universities because they know that
> the jail inmates won't be needing the schools.   }: )
> 
> --
> Woofbert <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>, InfernoSoft Datadroid
> http://www.infernosoft.com/company/techsupport.html
> "Inside every Microsoft application, there are
> several simple programs trying to get out."


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Caifornia power shortage...
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:24:24 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>  Mike Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> >> Actually, the REAL problem is that the ECO-NUTS in California shut
> >> down practically every fission power project that came down the pike
> >> in the 1970's.
> 
> Blame the correct cause. Every project under design or planning being canceled
> by the utilities after Three-Mile Island.
> 

So...big fucking deal.

Three Mile Island was a text-book example of a nuclear power plant
shutting down EXACTLY AS DESIGNED.

Anybody who interprets TMI as a failure in nuclear engineering
has their head deeeeeeeeeply inside their rectum.



> >> If those plants had been built, a lot of oil-fired and coal-fired
> >> plants would have been taken off-line a long time ago AND Cali.
> >> would STILL have surplus capacity.
> 
> >Not to mention the growth here.  I mean, jesus, we don't have enough power
> >for the people here, yet I've not heard a single official (or SDG&E reps)
> >suggest that perhaps we should slow down the massive home building constantly
> >going on here.  What's going to happen in a year, or two when our population
> >grows by that much more?
> 
> >I shudder to think.
> 
> >--
> >Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Senior Engineer-Qualcomm-http://www.miguelito.org
> >Homer Simpson: "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's
> >problems." -- Simpsons
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----------------------------------------------------------


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Caifornia power shortage...
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:26:39 -0500

Russ Lyttle wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >  Mike Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > >> Actually, the REAL problem is that the ECO-NUTS in California shut
> > >> down practically every fission power project that came down the pike
> > >> in the 1970's.
> >
> > Blame the correct cause. Every project under design or planning being canceled
> > by the utilities after Three-Mile Island.
> >
> Not by the utilities, but by State and Federal regulators. The utilities
> would like to build more plants : they make more money. In the absence
> of more plants, they will just raise prices. That is a dead end for
> them, as older plants break down and become obsolete.

A couple years ago...at Ford Motor Company's River Rouge Complex, one
of those 1920's era plants had a "break down".

30 blue-collar workers killed.

That's liberalism for you.

They demonstrate their love for the common man by insisting that he
work on dangerous, obsolete equipment.


> 
> > >> If those plants had been built, a lot of oil-fired and coal-fired
> > >> plants would have been taken off-line a long time ago AND Cali.
> > >> would STILL have surplus capacity.
> >
> > >Not to mention the growth here.  I mean, jesus, we don't have enough power
> > >for the people here, yet I've not heard a single official (or SDG&E reps)
> > >suggest that perhaps we should slow down the massive home building constantly
> > >going on here.  What's going to happen in a year, or two when our population
> > >grows by that much more?
> >
> > >I shudder to think.
> >
> > >--
> > >Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Senior Engineer-Qualcomm-http://www.miguelito.org
> > >Homer Simpson: "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's
> > >problems." -- Simpsons
> > --
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> --
> Russ Lyttle, PE
> <http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
> Not Powered by ActiveX


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Caifornia power shortage...
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:27:57 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Russ Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>  Mike Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >> >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Actually, the REAL problem is that the ECO-NUTS in California shut
> >> >> down practically every fission power project that came down the pike
> >> >> in the 1970's.
> >>
> >> Blame the correct cause. Every project under design or planning being canceled
> >> by the utilities after Three-Mile Island.
> >>
> >Not by the utilities, but by State and Federal regulators. The utilities
> >would like to build more plants : they make more money. In the absence of
> >more plants, they will just raise prices. That is a dead end for them, as
> >older plants break down and become obsolete.
> 
> Sorry but it was the utilities that canceled every single Nuke plant after
> Three Mile Island.  The effect of the regulators was not the prime cause.  The

Court costs, idiot...The radical eco-communist strategy was to shut down
all nuclear power plant projects by driving the legal costs sky high
by tangling up each and every plant in a sea of legal costs.


> utilities knew that the design changes that would come from the TMI meltdown
> would make nuks to costly.
> 
> The same is somewhat true for fossil fueled plants, in that emission standards
> were starting to take effect in the 70s and the older plants would be retiring
> -- but there was little incentive to build new plants and no agreement on how
> to recover the capital costs under the coming deregulation -- so there just
> wasn't a good business to fight for new plants.
> 
> >> >> If those plants had been built, a lot of oil-fired and coal-fired
> >> >> plants would have been taken off-line a long time ago AND Cali.
> >> >> would STILL have surplus capacity.
> >>
> >> >Not to mention the growth here.  I mean, jesus, we don't have enough power
> >> >for the people here, yet I've not heard a single official (or SDG&E reps)
> >> >suggest that perhaps we should slow down the massive home building constantly
> >> >going on here.  What's going to happen in a year, or two when our population
> >> >grows by that much more?
> >>
> >> >I shudder to think.
> >>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----------------------------------------------------------


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Caifornia power shortage...
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:28:57 -0500

Russ Lyttle wrote:
> 
> Mike Marion wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, the REAL problem is that the ECO-NUTS in California shut
> > > down practically every fission power project that came down the pike
> > > in the 1970's.
> > >
> > > If those plants had been built, a lot of oil-fired and coal-fired
> > > plants would have been taken off-line a long time ago AND Cali.
> > > would STILL have surplus capacity.
> >
> > Not to mention the growth here.  I mean, jesus, we don't have enough power for
> > the people here, yet I've not heard a single official (or SDG&E reps) suggest
> > that perhaps we should slow down the massive home building constantly going on
> > here.
> Why should they. More people = more money.
> 
> >What's going to happen in a year, or two when our population grows by
> > that much more?
> California is going to try to steal power from the other states. If AL
> Gore is president and pushes the California Liberal Agenda, there is a
> good chance that there will be enough anger in the other states to cut
> the feeds to California.
> 

Don't worry...if the power companies' management doesn't do it...
the people will.


> >
> 
> > I shudder to think.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Senior Engineer-Qualcomm-http://www.miguelito.org
> > Homer Simpson: "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's
> > problems." -- Simpsons
> 
> --
> Russ Lyttle, PE
> <http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
> Not Powered by ActiveX


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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