Linux-Advocacy Digest #792, Volume #33 Mon, 23 Apr 01 00:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Red Hat has become scary? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Les Mikesell")
Re: What's the point (WJP)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("jet")
e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("jet")
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Chronos Tachyon)
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Brent R)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("jet")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!! ("Bobby D. Bryant")
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:38:28 +1200
> >Do I need to drag the old Europe argument out into the open as a
> >demonstration of a region that is liberal and tolerant, yet has not got
> >the issues the US are trying to address, such as teenage pregnancy as
> >example.
> >
> >It has been 14 years since sexual orientation was put into the
> >anti-descrimination laws in New Zealand, and the whole of New Zealand
> >hasn't split in half, so please, where is the problem?
> >
> >Instead of some of these "high and mighty" moralists should get over
> >their insecurities. Why should they be concerned something that has
> >nothing to do with them.
> >
>
> There you go again. You have stated that it has nothing to do with
> me. It has everything to do with me when my constitutional rights
> to free speech and freedom of religion are being challenged. The
> homosexual lobby in the US is not some group that just wants to be
> left alone as you have falsely claimed. They have a political
> agenda that they want to bring to everyone in America. Including
> my children and they want to prevent me from saying anything in
> protest about it. What part of this do you not understand.
>
> >btw, if you are christian, it is also a sin to use a condom /
> >contraception and to have sex for pleasure, as by the bible, it should
> >only be used for pro-creation. So before you stand the moral high
> >ground, look at what YOU do in YOUR OWN LIFE before throwing mud at a
> >particular group.
> >
>
> Everyone of the statements you made in the previous paragraph is false.
> Having to lie in order to make your argument is a sign that your argument
> is extremely weak.
>
> I never stated what my religion is, precisely because I knew people would
> use it to change the argument and make ridiculous claims as you have
> done. You have no idea if I am christian, jewish, islam, mormon, etc. etc.
How come there is this problem in the US, yet in NZ, we don't have the
same problems. Yes, in New Zealand there is the "Rainbow Organisation"
(setup my youth) which visits schools, and talks about who you can talk
to if you are curious about your sexual orientation, these include
counselors, teachers, parents, Youth Organisations.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:39:22 GMT
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8cDE6.143327$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Far, far too expensive for LESS performance even! There's no reason to go
> Unix any more these days. It just doesn't make sense no matter what
perspective
> you're looking from. Price? Nope. Performance? Heck no. Security? Yeah,
right.
>
> Win2K is better all around.
Then why do my IIS 5.0 servers crash regularly? If I didn't have a
third party load balancer avoiding the ones that decided to pop
up a dialog box (from a service???) instead of restarting after
a crash they would be down much of the time. They are just
doing xsl transformations with Microsoft's msxml3.dll.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:47:04 +1200
> Age NZ US Traditional New
> -- ---------------------- ------------------------------------------------
> 5 Primary School Kindergarten Primary Primary
> 6 Primary Grade 1 Primary Primary
> 7 Primary Grade 2 Primary Primary
> 8 Primary Grade 3 Primary Primary
> 9 Primary Grade 4 Primary Primary
> 10 Primary Grade 5 Primary Primary
> 11 Form 1 Intermediate Grade 6 Primary Middle School
> 12 Form 2 Intermediate Grade 7 Jr. High Middle School
> 13 Form 3 College Grade 8 Jr. High Middle School
> 14 Form 4 College Grade 9 High School Middle School
> 15 Form 5 College Grade 10 High School High School
> 16 Form 6 College Grade 11 High School High School
> 17 Form 7 College Grade 12 High School High School
>
> After Grade 12,then you attend college, university (which is
> usually called "going to college" in the US), or trade school
> (or just dive into the unskilled labor force).
>
> The structure AND NAMES of the the "New" style in the US is what first
> tipped me off to the Communist infiltration in the US Schools.
>
> Why did they change the names from "Jr. High" to "Middle School"
> when it's supposedly the same thing?
>
> To me, it's simple...by changing the name from "junior high school"
> to "middle school", it indicates to those in the know, that the
> (American) school district in question has been successfully
> subverted according to the designs of the government Moscow.
>
> Maybe this is wacky...but I notice a correlation between the two.
Just as a follow up, private Colleges start from form 1, hence, there is
only two seperate schools, Primary School and College. That include
Catholic and Protestant Schools I attended a Catholic Primary School and
a Protestant College.
Age NZ US Traditional New
-- ----------------------
================================================
5 Primary School Kindergarten Primary Primary
6 Primary Grade 1 Primary Primary
7 Primary Grade 2 Primary Primary
8 Primary Grade 3 Primary Primary
9 Primary Grade 4 Primary Primary
10 Primary Grade 5 Primary Primary
11 Form 1 College Grade 6 Primary Middle
School
12 Form 2 College Grade 7 Jr. High Middle
School
13 Form 3 College Grade 8 Jr. High Middle
School
14 Form 4 College Grade 9 High School Middle
School
15 Form 5 College Grade 10 High School High
School
16 Form 6 College Grade 11 High School High
School
17 Form 7 College Grade 12 High School High
School
Matthew gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:01:35 +1200
JS PL wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> > JS PL virtually setting the US as the defacto standard of what other
> > government departments are running as an OS. I personally couldn't care
> > less what happens in the US. SO much money is wasted yetit is never seen
> > as a big issue, hence, whether the DOJ uses Windows or not issue another
> > non-issue. If the DOJ use Linux they would been seen as biased towards
> > Linux and alternative OS's, and if they ran Windows, there would be a
> > big "Microosft" conspiracy, hence, the DOJ are damed if they do and
> > damed if they don't.
>
> The DOJ or any government agent would never load Linux on a PC. That would
> ruin their false stance that MS is a monopoly. Even though they could run
> it, they won't. What Microsoft should do is offer to buy the new and more
> sane panel of judges both knind of OS's on a dual boot machine and see which
> one (as consumers) they choose to boot into most often. Load both OS's up
> with the exact same applications, Office for windows, Star Office for Linux
> as well as a host of other apps which mirror each other in functionality on
> each OS. I gurantee the Judges will conclude that Windows is in use by 98%
> solely because of quality. And after six months of using their choice I'm
> sure they will have chosen to boot into Windows ohh....Id say....98% of the
> time!
>
> Microsoft posseses an "advantage" not a "monopoly".
They are a monopoly, go back to College and repeat economics again.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:08:22 GMT
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:agME6.172443$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >
> >
> > This makes sense - someone sells you a faulty product so you decide to
> > replace it then buy a new version of same product from same company.
>
> It's not the same product, though. Microsoft had a bad past with Win9x,
> but, it proves itself again, ignorant folk like you refuse to take a look
> at Win2K because you think it's just like Win9x, when it isn't. You only
> serve to embarass yourself when you attempt to talk intelligently.
How is Win2K any less horrible when you want to do something
as simple as move a few of your installed and configured applications
to a different location?
Les Mikesell
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From: WJP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:20:42 -0500
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:34:59 -0600, Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:43:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
>wrote:
>
>>My point was that such things need to be thought of up front. We have
>>way too many people running around implementing "cool ideas" without
>>thinking them through for five minutes. Particularly with regard to
>>security and reliability issues. The current market seems to reward
>>this sort of behavior, but it'll cost us in the long run.
>
>Security's my big gripe. Most of the distro's give you a choice of
>either an internet-less install or a server install with the works.
>What Joe Consumer needs is a home-user install that provides the
>basics - web browser, email, ftp client, and news client - and a
>tightly pre-configured firewall to go with them.
Very good point, Bob. It is for this very reason that I do not use SuSE
7.0 on the internet as yet. Frankly, I'm paranoid about even having my
cable modem "alive" when booting into Linux. I have a router and
hub/filter for my local network, however, I'm not about to take any
chances until I know that I've provided a modicum - and better yet,
maximum amount of security for Linux use on the internet.
Regards,
Bill Powell
USAF/USA Retired Management Systems Analyst, et al
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:29:11 -0700
MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> >
> > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is a
> self
> > flagellating idiot?
>
> No, just any man who marries one.
>
Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a man
for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
LOL.
J
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:34:06 -0700
Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> jet wrote:
> >
> > Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an
> > > > > >> > Is Lamic womans choice of OS?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> No, of course not; they're not allowed to make such choices.
Linux
> > for
> > > > > >> women's rights! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fuck them. They already have too mancy privileges and not
enough
> > > > > > responsibilities, you simpering, ass-kissing ninny
> > > > >
> > > > > more anti-freedom rhetoric from anti-freedom Kulkis.
> > > >
> > > > Let's see...
> > > >
> > > > What do you call a system where
> > > >
> > > > Class A has many burdensome restrictions and many responsibilities
> > > > bot Class B, and NO privileges,
> > > >
> > > > while Class B has unlimited freedoms, no restrictions and zero
> > > > responsibilites to Class A
> > > >
> > > > That is called FEUDALISM, is it not?
> > > >
> > > > Now...look at the society which feminism has made for us.
> > > >
> > > > Class A above is defined as "men"
> > > > Class B above is defined as "women"
> > > >
> > > > So much for freedom and equality.
> > > >
> > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > >
> > > Well I would say that it depends on what type of feminism.
> > > Turn-of-the-century-feminism wasn't as insistent as Steinem-feminism
to
> > > turn women into Oprahized-overemotional blabbering idiots.
> > >
> > > Intelligent and successful women are to busy succeeding to vomit forth
> > > nonsense about how 'oppressed' they are.
> > >
> > > I heard some idiotic college professor go on NPR and blab that women
> > > were under-represented in the computer industry because of...
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Does anyone outside of a college campus take anything non science
college
> > professors say seriously?
> >
> > > computer games!!! She was claiming that through 'Lara Croft' and the
> > > like, women were being painted into a 'sex-kitten role' (let's see: a
> > > woman portrayed as a strong Indiana Jones character who eludes her
male
> > > pursuers... yeah that is oppressive).
> >
> > Hmmm...doesn't bother me.
> >
> > J
>
> I think she was complaining that Lara Croft represented unrealistic body
> proportions
Well, um, duh. And so what?
>and that that somehow prevented young girls from entering
> into Math/Science.
Barbie dolls didn't stop me.
J
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:37:42 GMT
On Sun 22 Apr 2001 09:30, Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> WHo is turing?
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
[Snip]
Alan Turing, the father of modern computing and namesake of "Turing
machine" and "Turing test" in today's vocabulary. Among the fields of
CompSci that he researched or helped found: computability, artificial
intelligence, and cryptography. His single biggest claim to fame was that
he was an important part of the British (MI6? I forget) effort to crack the
German Enigma machine in WW2.
As I recall, around the mid-1950s or so, the law got wind of the fact that
he was openly homosexual (how dare he!). As was policy at the time, he was
forced to take hormones that would suppress all sexual urges and turn him
into an asexual being, which was (obviously!) better than living the
sinful, evil life of a homosexual. Within a few years, he committed
suicide by ingesting cyanide.
--
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Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:38:45 +1200
Hullo wrote:
>
> It's great.
Jesus! another whining pome! are you related to Pete by chance?
Matthew gardiner
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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:44:39 GMT
jet wrote:
>
> Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > jet wrote:
> > >
> > > Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > > > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an
> > > > > > >> > Is Lamic womans choice of OS?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> No, of course not; they're not allowed to make such choices.
> Linux
> > > for
> > > > > > >> women's rights! :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fuck them. They already have too mancy privileges and not
> enough
> > > > > > > responsibilities, you simpering, ass-kissing ninny
> > > > > >
> > > > > > more anti-freedom rhetoric from anti-freedom Kulkis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's see...
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you call a system where
> > > > >
> > > > > Class A has many burdensome restrictions and many responsibilities
> > > > > bot Class B, and NO privileges,
> > > > >
> > > > > while Class B has unlimited freedoms, no restrictions and zero
> > > > > responsibilites to Class A
> > > > >
> > > > > That is called FEUDALISM, is it not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Now...look at the society which feminism has made for us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Class A above is defined as "men"
> > > > > Class B above is defined as "women"
> > > > >
> > > > > So much for freedom and equality.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > >
> > > > Well I would say that it depends on what type of feminism.
> > > > Turn-of-the-century-feminism wasn't as insistent as Steinem-feminism
> to
> > > > turn women into Oprahized-overemotional blabbering idiots.
> > > >
> > > > Intelligent and successful women are to busy succeeding to vomit forth
> > > > nonsense about how 'oppressed' they are.
> > > >
> > > > I heard some idiotic college professor go on NPR and blab that women
> > > > were under-represented in the computer industry because of...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone outside of a college campus take anything non science
> college
> > > professors say seriously?
> > >
> > > > computer games!!! She was claiming that through 'Lara Croft' and the
> > > > like, women were being painted into a 'sex-kitten role' (let's see: a
> > > > woman portrayed as a strong Indiana Jones character who eludes her
> male
> > > > pursuers... yeah that is oppressive).
> > >
> > > Hmmm...doesn't bother me.
> > >
> > > J
> >
> > I think she was complaining that Lara Croft represented unrealistic body
> > proportions
>
> Well, um, duh. And so what?
Right, it's an idiotic argument.
> >and that that somehow prevented young girls from entering
> > into Math/Science.
>
> Barbie dolls didn't stop me.
>
> J
Good for you.
--
- Brent
http://rotten168.home.att.net
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:46:40 +1200
I have used Windows since version 3.11 (workgroups), and my last version
I used for approx. 12 months was Windows 2000, and it still gets bogged
down by buggy apps, memory usage is still too high, under linux it only
38MB after loading up fully to the desktop. As for the half baked
software, if you hadn't noted that freshmeat is a site for brand new
software, un developed, and still being debugged. I have used various
UNIX variants, ranging from IRIX to Solaris. Linux is still the best
desktop UNIX to date for the Intel Platform. As for the high end, no
wonder Intel was virtually pleading with SUN to get them to port Solaris
to Itanium, who the hell would trust Windows DC (which I call a
glorified desktop OS) running on a big iron, NOT ME. I would rather put
my trust in a PROVEN OS with PROVEN reliability. I am sure many Solaris
users out their can back me up on Solaris reliability.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:00:12 -0700
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> jet wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:01:19 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:17:32 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > >> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Never been in Saudi Arabia, have you, so please keep your
ignorant
> > > > >> > stereotypes to yourself.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm not invoking "ignorant stereotypes", I am quoting what I
believe
> > is
> > > > >> a fairly good source.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, considering that I ***LIVED*** In Saudi Arabia for a year, I
say
> > > > > that your source is full of shit.
> > > >
> > > > You've found very little in the way of flaws in my source.
> > >
> > > I don't need to "find" the flaws...they are self-evident from my own
> > > PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN SAUDI ARABIA FOR A YEAR
> > >
> > > > All
you've
> > done
> > > > is dispute the assertions I've made about clothing. Note that the
> > document
> > > > I cited acknowledges that westerners are not as restricted in terms
of
> > > > clothing.
> > > >
> > > > But many of the points still stand. Are women allowed to drive, or
leave
> > > > the house without a male relative ?
> > >
> > >
> > > What about it?
> >
> > I'll take that to mean "no".
> >
> > >
> > > They get many privileges, and many restrictions
> >
> > No amount of "privileges" could make up for a restriction like that!
> >
> > I know you wish American women had those kinds of restricions. Too bad,
> > bitter boy.
> >
> > >
> > > In contrast, in the United States, we have stripped all of men's
> > > privileges, and all of womens' restrictions, giving us a society
> > > where men have all the responsibilities and restrictions, and women
> > > have all of the privileges.
> > >
> >
> > Really? Cool! Where is this "United States". I'd like to move there.
> >
> > > In other words...FEUDALISM.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > American women are allowed to drive, go out of the house unescorted,
> > > and run off with 50% of a man's wealth PLUS a substantial sum of
> > > 2 decades of his future earnings, all by getting pregnant by
> > > Dangerasshole, but designating Mr. High Achiever the father on
> > > the birth certificate.
> >
> > Bitter boy myth.
> >
> > >
> > > The primary reason why male/female relationships in the United States
> > > are in such a sorry state is entirely due to the fact that feminism
> > > tipped the delicate balance of power from level
> >
> > How was being denied access to education that lead to higher paying jobs
and
> > being paid less for the same work "level"?
> >
> > to anti-male in
> > > every respect
> > >
> >
> > Translation: Aaron hates feminism because it gave women the power to
turn
> > down his advances.
>
>
> So, you're saying that without hysterical Feminism, such a right
> would not exist...
Bait and switch. There is a huge difference between having a right to do
something, and having the power to do it.
J
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:52:16 +1200
> How much does it cost to buy Win2K today???
>
> --
> V
Windows 2000 Pro: $NZ800 Full version, retail
Office 2000 Pro: $NZ1300
OEM Pricing (all in New Zealand Dollars, Excluding GST (12.5%)):
OEM Windows Millennium Edition (3 Pack) $645.00
OEM Windows Millennium Edition (30 Pack) $6,400.00
OEM Windows 98 Second Edition (3 Pack) $665.00
OEM Windows 98 Second Edition (30 Pack) $6,500.00
OEM Windows 2000 Professional (3 Pack) $949.00
OEM Windows 2000 Professional (30 Pack) $8,900.00
OEM Windows 95 (3 Pack) $649.00
OEM Windows NT Workstation 4.0 (3-Pack) $1,150.00
OEM MS-Dos 6.22 (3 Pack) $235.00
-
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:55:20 +1200
> It's not the same product, though. Microsoft had a bad past with Win9x,
> but, it proves itself again, ignorant folk like you refuse to take a look
> at Win2K because you think it's just like Win9x, when it isn't. You only
> serve to embarass yourself when you attempt to talk intelligently.
>
Chad Myers, what UNIX's have you used in your colourful career.
Matthew Gardiner
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The best of German engineering, now in software form
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!!
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:45:06 +0600
ipslo wrote:
> Just build your own computer. The parts are really cheap these days and
> you have total control and it is actually a fun project.
That's what I've done the past two upgrade cycles. I highly recommend it.
No more inflated prices to cover the "free" bundled software, either.
I hate to think what I would have had to pay to get the equivalent of what I
just built from Dell.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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