Linux-Advocacy Digest #805, Volume #30 Mon, 11 Dec 00 03:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Caifornia power shortage... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! (OT) (humor) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! (OT) (humor) (Marty)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Server licensing Cost: Linux vs. NT ("Mike")
Re: Predictions (featuring Drestin Black) ("JS/PL")
Re: Linux is awful ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Linux is INFERIOR to Windows ("The PhantomAss")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:59:31 GMT
Les Mikesell writes:
>>> No, you should understand the pattern so you know how to
>>> represent your intentions, assuming you are past kindergarten
>>> and already know the shapes of the letters.
>> Understanding patterns won't do any good if you don't know how
>> to create new text (i and Esc) and save it (ZZ).
> On the contrary, vi is extremely useful as a document viewer, and
> those commands are not necessary for that function.
more is extremely useful as a document viewer. If all you want to
do is view the document, you don't need to move the cursor around
with hjkl.
> Some experience with the positioning commands is alwas a good
> idea before entering text, and there is no need to change the
> unmodified document after you view it.
There is no need to move a cursor around in an unmodified document.
>>> You don't want to think 'special case, special character' for
>>> every keystroke.
>> Fortunately, I haven't. I was simply talking about the first
>> things to learn.
> If you don't learn the concept of the modifiers you are learning
> special cases. This would be equivalent to memorizing all of
> the different verb forms as separate words that you use for
> separate and special situations without seeing any repeatable
> relationship.
Irrelevant, given that I was talking about the first commands to
learn, not how you learn commands.
>>>> It was a new case, regardless.
>>> Not for everyone. There was a long history of command driven editors
>>> before vi: http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/qed.html
>>> has some interesting trivia.
>> Of course; there were a lot of editors before screen editors came
>> along. The first "editor" I used was to repunch an entire card.
> And some were very similar to vi, especially the ex mode.
The IBM 026 wasn't anything like vi.
>>>>>> $ still can mean either end of line or end of file. Only the
>>>>>> "end" portion is consistent.
>>>>> It is consistent with being the end of the type of motion command
>>>>> you gave.
>>>> Do you consider d to be a "motion command"?
>>> It is a type of command that involves a motion/range.
>>> 3dw = delete 3 words.
>>> d/foo<enter> = delete until the pattern "foo"
>> As opposed to "delete the pattern 'foo'".
> Yes, /foo positions you to the beginning, not the end of the
> matched pattern.
My point is that its action isn't intuitive.
>>> d$ = delete to end of line
>> As opposed to delete to the end of the file.
> $ always means end of line to commands that work on
> characters.
One could argue that :1,$s/q/z/ works on characters, yet the $
means end of file.
>>> 4dj = delete current and 4 lines going down
>> Assuming you remember which letter is for up and down.
> Which you don't have to consider a special case.
Is 4dk a special case?
>>> 4dk = delete current and 4 lines going up
>> Ditto.
>>> Note how you don't have to learn this separately from:
>>> w = moves the cursor a word
>>> /patten = moves the cursor to pattern
>>> j = moves the cursor down a line
>>> k = moves the cursor up a line
>>> Get the idea?
>> I've been using vi for years now, and I still have instances of the
>> cursor going up when I wanted to go down.
> It isn't because it does something surprising. If you ever know
> how to make the cursor go down, you know how in every case
> once you understand that it is not a special case.
Understanding whether it's a special case or not doesn't improve
efficiency when the cursor is going the unintended direction.
>>> It was written by Bill Joy in 1974 and no, 'real' vi has not changed.
>>> The original paper: http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/usd/12.vi/paper.html
>>> still describes it exactly. There are some newer imitations that have
>>> added new and different features (some very different), and there
>>> are emacs modes that emulate it with varying degrees of faithfulness.
>>> The variations are annoying if they won't remove the carriage returns
>>> from MSDOS style text with the intuitive command
>>> :%s/^V^M// (where ^char is control-char).
>> What makes that command intuitive?
> Carriage-returns are control-M characters
So one might expect to enter a control-M into the document by typing
control-M. Doesn't work. Oh, so you need a prefix. Now, what is so
intuitive about control-V as the prefix? A UNIX novice might expect
the backslash to be used as the prefix.
> - but this is the same as your own 'enter' key so it is a special
> character.
Really? That key on most keyboards is called either "Enter" or "Return",
yet UNIX has this thing about ending lines with a "newline" character.
Most confusing to a first-time UNIX user. It's really just a line feed
character, so perhaps the user should be using control-J, leaving the
Enter key to be non-special. Oh, but UNIX is mapping control-M to
control-J. Or is it the shell doing it? Or is it the editor doing it?
> The control-V is just an escape to let you enter the control-M and
> otherwise is ignored
Nothing intuitive about control-V. Why not control-E? At least one
could argue that the E stands for Escape.
> so the command means:
> : go to ex mode
> % shorthand for 1,$ (the whole file) so only intuitive the 2nd time...
> s substitute
> / delimiter
> ^M match the carriage return character
> / delimiter
> / replacement delimiter (replace with nothing)
>
> It just pops off your fingers automatically like any other rY6¾ācement
> command.
Yeah, right. I find it easier to use :1,$s/.$//, given that a DOS file
will have every line ending in a carriage return. Don't tell me it's
more dangerous; I already know that.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Caifornia power shortage...
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:02:51 -0500
KLH wrote:
>
> [snip all]
>
> Perhaps if we strive to lessen our need for generated power then things will
> improve. Research into more economical gasolines seems to be a good start.
You moron...there is no such thing.
Learn some thermodynamics.
>
> But we have no real problem with our standard of living. I am sure we can
> stand to eat at a few less fast food restraunts to preserve our enviroment
> and its ecology.
good god, have you no scientific education?
>
> Best Regards,
> Kevin Holmes
> "extrasolar"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:05:49 GMT
Les Mikesell writes:
>> Steve Mading writes:
>>>> Fortunately, I didn't make such a blanket statement. My comment
>>>> was restricted to the use of hjkl for cursor movement. That's a
>>>> rather small subset of vi.
>>> Well, then we'll just have to disagree then. I don't think
>>> that's true for the first time user who hasn't gotten any
>>> preconcieved notions from using other editors first. You think
>>> it is.
>> Are you saying that the first-time user *will* know that hjkl
>> moves the cursor around???
> The first time user won't have a concept of what a cursor is
> or why you would want to move it around.
On the contrary, the first-time vi user could have experience with
other editors.
> In the 70's and 80's, CPT dedicated wordprocessors were a big thing
> and they represented a sheet of paper advancing past a typing line
> on the screen so it looked and worked exactly like a typewriter.
Were those the ABDick portrait mode machines?
> Literally, a white page scrolled up the screen as you typed. If you
> needed to correct something you moved the page back down to the
> typing line instead of moving the cursor to the text. Their claim
> (of course) was that this was 'intuitive' to anyone who had seen a
> typewriter.
Of course, according to Aaron, nothing about a computer is intuitive.
> So, not even the direction of motion can be taken as something
> you could guess, let alone the key that would invoke it. If you
> think otherwise then you should admit that you have been
> brainwashed into it.
Fortunately, I don't think otherwise. Remember, my statement was
that to use hjkl for cursor movement is not intuitive.
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Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:09:24 GMT
Marty writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Malloy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Tholen tholes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any microwaves with an on/off button lately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay then, "Start/Stop", if you must be pedantic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoa, this is the pot calling the kettle black! Pedantic to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point of silliness, Tholen now turns around and uses pedanticism as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an attack. Great going, Tholen, you're really low on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistency list now!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a reason why Tholen, in 12 years, has never budged from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the TOP of my list as "GODDAMN STUPIDEST FUCKING IDIOT ON USENET"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has he really been at it for TWELVE YEARS?!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course not, Marty. Aaron is simply another in a series of liars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen nothing that leads me to agree with you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you've seen nothing that leads you to agree with Aaron.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Classic pontification.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On the contrary, the lack of Aaron's evidence is precisely the
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that you've seen nothing that leads you to agree with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron, Marty.
>>>>>>>>>>> Balderdash, Dave.
>>>>>>>>>> Oh really? Where's Aaron's evidence, allegedly?
>>>>>>>>> Non sequitur.
>>>>>>>> Incorrect, Marty.
>>>>>>> Classic incorrect pontification.
>>>>>> How ironic.
>>>>> Where is the alleged irony?
>>>> MA] Classic incorrect pontification.
>>> Of what relevance is this quotation?
>> It's where the irony is, Marty.
> Classic incorrect pontification.
Incorrect, given that I reproduced the ironic statement, Marty.
>> Don't you remember what you asked me?
> Certainly, which is why I recognized the inappropriateness of the quotation.
Non sequitur, given that you asked me for the relevance of the quotation,
Marty.
>>>>>>>>>>> Truly amazing that you think you know more about what I've
>>>>>>>>>>> seen from Aaron than I do.
>>>>>>>>>> What's so amazing about knowing that Aaron hasn't presented any
>>>>>>>>>> evidence to anyone about when I allegedly started posting to
>>>>>>>>>> USENET, Marty?
>>>>>>>>> Non sequitur.
>>>>>>>> Incorrect, Marty.
>>>>>>> Classic incorrect pontification.
>>>>>> How ironic.
>>>>> Where is the alleged irony?
>>>> MA] Classic incorrect pontification.
>>> Of what relevance is this quotation?
>> It's where the irony is, Marty.
> Classic incorrect pontification.
Incorrect, given that I reproduced the ironic statement, Marty.
>> Don't you remember what you asked me?
> Certainly, which is why I recognized the inappropriateness of the quotation.
Non sequitur, given that you asked me for the relevance of the quotation,
Marty.
>>>>>>>>>>> "Arrogance and stupidity in a single package. How efficient of you."
>>>>>>>>>>> --Londo Mollari
>>>>>>>>>> Applies to you, Marty. And Aaron.
>>>>>>>>> Applies to you, Dave.
>>>>>>>> What is allegedly arrogant or stupid about knowing when I started
>>>>>>>> posting to USENET, Marty?
>>>>>>> Non sequitur.
>>>>>> Incorrect, Marty.
>>>>> Classic pontification.
>>>> How ironic.
>>> Where is the alleged irony?
>> MA] Classic pontification.
> Of what relevance is this quotation?
It's where the irony is, Marty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, if you can find a USENET posting from me that dates back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 1988, feel free to repost it. I know you can't. I know Aaron
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't prove that no postings were made by you in that time period.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What would you consider as proof, Marty?
>>>>>>>>>>> That's not my problem, now is it?
>>>>>>>>>> Sure it is, Marty, given that you're the one who wants prove that I
>>>>>>>>>> didn't post anything in that time period.
>>>>>>>>> You're erroneously presupposing that I want to prove that you didn't post
>>>>>>>>> anything in that time period.
>>>>>>>> Incorrect, Marty:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "That doesn't prove that no postings were made by you in that
>>>>>>>> time period."
>>>>>>>> --Marty Amodeo
>>>>>>> And where is the quote that's supposed to show that I want to prove that you
>>>>>>> didn't post anything in that time period?
>>>>>> "That doesn't prove that no postings were made by you in that
>>>>>> time period."
>>>>>> --Marty Amodeo
>>>>> Repeating the same inappropriate quotation doesn't make it more appropriate,
>>>>> Dave.
>>>> You're erroneously presupposing that the quotation is inappropriate, Marty.
>>> Not at all, Dave.
>> Classic pontification.
> How ironic.
Where is the alleged irony, Marty?
>>>>>>>>> I'm content to believe what Aaron said.
>>>>>>>> Why are you content with a lie, Marty?
>>>>>>> Non sequitur.
>>>>>> Incorrect, Marty.
>>>>> Classic pontification.
>>>> How ironic.
>>> Where is the alleged irony?
>> MA] Classic pontification.
> Of what relevance is this quotation?
It's where the irony is, Marty.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Truly amazing that both you and Aaron think you know more about when
>>>>>>>>>>>> I started posting to USENET than I do.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't "think I know" anything about when you started posting. I
>>>>>>>>>>> simply take Aaron's word over yours,
>>>>>>>>>> Illogical, given that he doesn't know what he's talking about, Marty.
>>>>>>>>> I don't accept this weak and unsupported premise.
>>>>>>>> Why don't you accept the truth, Marty?
>>>>>>> Non sequitur.
>>>>>> Incorrect, Marty.
>>>>> Yet another example of your pontification.
>>>> How ironic.
>>> Where is the alleged irony?
>> MA] Yet another example of your pontification.
> Of what relevance is this quotation?
It's where the irony is, Marty.
>>>>>>>>>>> since neither of you can present evidence.
>>>>>>>>>> Above you considered it truly amazing that I think I know more about
>>>>>>>>>> what you've seen from Aaron, Marty,
>>>>>>>>> Very good, Dave.
>>>>>>>> What is very good about your inconsistency, Marty?
>>>>>>> Another non sequitur.
>>>>>> Another incorrect statement.
>>>>> Still another example of your pontification.
>>>> How ironic.
>>> Where is the alleged irony?
>> MA] Still another example of your pontification.
> Of what relevance is this quotation?
It's where the irony is, Marty.
>>>>>>>>>> but here you just confirmed what I said about Aaron.
>>>>>>>>> I did no such thing.
>>>>>>>> Reread what you wrote, Marty.
>>>>>>> Unnecessary.
>>>>>> Then why did you say "I did no such thing", Marty?
>>>>> Because I've done no such thing, Dave.
>>>> Yet you found it necessary to say so.
>>> Would you prefer that I allow you to mislead the readers by suggesting that I
>>> have done such a thing?
>> On what basis do you claim that I would be misleading the readers, Marty?
> Are you suggesting that you haven't suggested that I have done such a thing?
I've demonstrated that you did such a thing, Marty.
>>>>>>>>>> Typical inconsistency.
>>>>>>>>> Typical illogical conclusion.
>>>>>>>> Balderdash, Marty.
>>>>>>> Oh really? What is allegedly logical about jumping to a conclusion?
>>>>>> You're erroneously presupposing that I jumped to a conclusion, Marty.
>>>>> Not at all.
>>>> Balderdash, Marty.
>>> Oh really? How is it erroneous to presuppose something which has already
>>> occurred?
>> By erroneously presupposing that something has already occurred, Marty.
> Classic illogical circular reasoning.
Balderdash, Marty.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Arrogance and stupidity in a single package. How efficient of you."
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Londo Mollari
>>>>>>>>>>> How ironic.
>>>>>>>>>> Where's the alleged irony, Marty?
>>>>>>>>> See my usage of said quote.
>>>>>>>> I already saw your inappropriate usage, Marty.
>>>>>>> Impossible, given that there was no such inappropriate usage.
>>>>>> Incorrect, Marty.
>>>>> Classic pontification.
>>>> How ironic.
>>> Where is the alleged irony?
>> MA] Classic pontification.
> Of what relevance is this quotation?
It's where the irony is, Marty.
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Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus! (OT) (humor)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:10:04 GMT
David Ogg writes:
> Wow, you three should get a room!
Counting problems?
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Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus! (OT) (humor)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:06:41 GMT
David Ogg wrote:
>
> Wow, you three should get a room!
Illogical.
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Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:11:29 GMT
Jeff Glatt writes:
> JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> One would probably be a star-trek freak to use terms like "illogical"
>>a fter a light-humoured keyboard statement.
> Yay! More comments about Tholen for the digest
An illogical comment. Yet another problem with your "digest".
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Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:12:41 GMT
Jeff Glatt writes:
>> JM writes:
>>> Steve Mading wrote:
>>>> I wrote:
>>>>> I was just as serious as Steve, who claimed that you didn't have to
>>>>> move your whole arm to hit Esc.
>>>> Bullshit. I *was* serious. What, do you have like 1-inch fingers?
>>> No, he's got a 1" something else...
>> What might that "something else" allegedly be?
> Given the intelligence level of your usenet posts, the answer is
> obviously one brain cell
How ironic, coming from someone who doesn't understand the low
intelligence level indicated by suggesting a one-inch brain cell.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:50:28 +0200
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:lFUY5.4221$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:90vtdh$2f8aa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Here we go again Erik...
> > >> _How_ many 1000's of debian bugs? and how many of them are things
like
> > >> Apache or sendmail, things that aren't counted on the M$ side?
> > >
> > >IIS and SMTP are certainly counted on the Win2k bug tracking.
> >
> > How can you possibly have any idea what is counted on the win2k
> > bug tracking database unless you are one of the win2k development
> > team?
>
> I don't know for sure, but one can make a reasoned guess. Are you
> suggesting that Win2k's bug database only includes it's kernel? Win2k is
a
> product. That means that a bug reported against Win2k goes into the
Win2k's
> bug database, thus anything included with Win2k, including IIS and it's
SMTP
> server are included.
Beside, what is the size of Win2K's kernel anyway?
You really think that there could be so many bugs in the kernel itself?
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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server licensing Cost: Linux vs. NT
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:32:21 GMT
"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:44:01 -0600,
> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> * perl, gcc, python, php, java.
> >
> >All available for NT as well, free of charge.
> >
> Nope. Some of these compilers today have
> license fees attached for deployment.
>
> None which you have mentioned, but some
> do.
Oh do tell, Charlie.
I have perl, gcc, python, and java on my Unix and NT boxes, and none of them
require license fees on either platform. The python and perl home pages have
never mentioned a license fee. Activestate doesn't mention a license fee for
perl or python either.
gcc is available from a variety of sources. I have two implementations of
gcc on my NT box, and one on my Unix box. There are no license fees for any
of them.
A quick check of the php home page shows that win32 binaries are available,
and the source code can be downloaded from the site. Again, I didn't notice
anything about license fees. In fact, they're pretty straightforward about
their pricing: "...PHP doesn't cost anything. You can use it for commercial
and/or non-commercial use all you want. You can give it to your friends,
print it out and hang it on your wall or eat it for lunch." My conclusion:
no license fee.
That leaves Java. Sun gives away their Java VM for Windows, and I suspect
they give it away for other systems as well. On my Sun box, there's no
special Java license or license fee either.
-- Mike --
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From: "JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Predictions (featuring Drestin Black)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:44:16 -0500
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Bob Hauck wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:40:41 -0500, JS/PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > You'll find that the Linux (*internet surfing) desktop share is about
> > > .003120. MS.* is about .9375222 as of October out of 554,519,878
> > > samples. read/weep http://www.thecounter.com/stats/
> >
> > Why you think this is a good thing is what escapes a lot of us. I can't
> > imagine it being a good thing to have one company control 93% of
anything.
> >
>
> We should get rid of GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Audi,
> Porsche, Mercedes, Volvo, Datsun, and make everybody drive AMC Pacers.
Pacers are only similar to Linux in one respect:
Market Share
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 07:43:10 GMT
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:YV_Y5.21255$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [snips]
>
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:efXY5.42312$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> > Which IDE drive are you using that can transfer data faster than a
> > 66Mhz controller can handle? If they really are half the price
> > of SCSI, I'd like to get some.
>
> IBMs. They won't do tha sustained, obviously.
If they don't do it sustained, what's the point? Linux is always going
to have more buffered than the drive has on-board. It should almost
never even ask for anything the drive would have in buffers.
Les Mikesell
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From: "The PhantomAss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: no.alt.arkiv,tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux is INFERIOR to Windows
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:39:57 -0500
pl0nk!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:911g5n$cr1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello to all!
>
> The result is out. Linux is INFERIOR to Windows. :-)
> Ah, I know you Linux people are bursting with rage right now. Sarcasms
> and insults are evitable for me, I know.
>
> Please read this test by Mindcraft that compares Linux and Windows NT.
> After reading this, you will agree with me.
>
> http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/openbench1.html
>
> Ha! Ha!
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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