Linux-Advocacy Digest #51, Volume #31            Mon, 25 Dec 00 02:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Question with Security on Linux/Unix versus Windows NT/2000 (Glitch)
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. (Glitch)
  Re: Whistler review. (J Sloan)
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. (sfcybear)
  Re: Linux lacks ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Looks kike Linux is taking the lead! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Conclusion ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. (steve@x)

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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 00:19:12 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question with Security on Linux/Unix versus Windows NT/2000

visiting avp.com will provide I believe around 3 viruses for Linux (at
least as of about 5 months ago they had around that many in their DB)

Philip Neves wrote:
> 
> Zane wrote:
> 
> > At work we use Windows NT on workstations and the other day people got
> > email with an attached virus.  The virus reformatted that persons hardrive
> > if they clicked on the attachment.
> >
> > I thought the purpose of NT was to protect the workstation from being
> > manipulated either from the user of that workstation or from an outside
> > source.  Isn't that why you have an administrator login versus a login for
> > a user?
> >
> > Is Linux or Unix vulnerable to this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> As of right now There are no viruses that I know of for linux. I've been
> using linux for five years and I have never heard of one. The reason why, I
> think, is virus writers respect the system and don't generally want to hurt
> it. For a virus to format a hard drive under linux the user running the
> virus would have to be the super user anyways.  So, the dammage a virus can
> do to a system can be contained somewhat. Of course these are general
> statements that are true right now. It doesn't mean that there won't be
> someone who will surprise everyone later. Generally your safe from viruses
> when you run a linux system.

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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 05:16:30 GMT


"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Wilson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > The left doesn't like set-in-stone rules they
> > > > can't dance or litigate around. The "Constitution is un-American"
> > rhetoric
> > > > is to be expected.
> > >
> > > Prove it.
> >
> > Prove what?
>
> Aw, nothing, just bein' crabby!
>
> Have a good Christmas, and may you receive some very
> heavy iron from Santa [not Santa Warlord, but Santa Dell,
> say]

I was kinda hoping for Santa Sun... <g>

My Christmas won't be officially good until 8:00am.
I'm stuck in the office until then.
Never volunteer without taking a peek at the calendar first!

Merry XMas to you too!

--
Tom Wilson
Sunbelt Software Solutions





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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 00:35:30 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.



> 
> If you go to http://www.gnome.org you will see that 0.7.11 is old and
> newer one exist. But the new one I can't install becuase it needs a new
> rpm version that my current rpm will not install becuase I can't install
> a package that the new rpm needs, becuase the package needs the
> new rpm to install it which my old rpm can;t install.
> 

ok, so someone found out u can get the latest version of abiword with V3
of RPM.

So what is the guy to do if that latest version of abiword with V3 of
RPM could not be found or what is he supposed to do if he runs into this
problem again with having to upgrade RPM but the package he needs to
upgrade it with is an RPM and needs the newest version of RPM to
install, which is what he was trying to upgrade in the first place?

catch 22 anyone?

i had a similar run around with trying to get the avi plugin for xmms
working. I needed the sdl-config script for the avi plugin to compile. 
I had SDL installed but did not the script for some reason so i had to
take time finding, downloading, and then installing SDL. Then I went
back to avi plugin and started to compiled it over again since I had the
file it needed. After that I believe I ran into another similar snag
before I actually got the avi plugin compiled.  All that to watch
movies.

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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 05:46:10 GMT

JoeX1029 wrote:

> >Linux (for hte most part) is not
> >Unix.
>
> So on what other part is it UNIX??  To be called UNIX the system must pass cert
> by the Open Group.  Its all or nothing.

Anybody who really knows Unix, has worked with different
versions over the years, and logs into a Linux server will
say "hey, this is Unix".

A clueless hair splitter who has no clue what Unix looks
or feels like will simply parrot the line "can't be called Unix"
for legal and non-technical reasons having nothing to do
with the real world.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

jjs




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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 05:58:28 GMT


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Just because I feel like yanking Aaron "straw man" Kulkis's chain...
>
> Libertarians are nothing but stupid liberals.  ;-)

I caught their convention on C-SPAN back in '92.
Star Trek convention meets political rally
Quite amusing.


--
Tom Wilson
Sunbelt Software Solutions



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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 05:54:42 GMT

Blame all opensource for problems with a single distro? Pathetic.



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  steve@x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <925i3u$amu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sfcybear says...
>
> >Could it be that the
> >version you are using is hopelessly out of date?
> >
>
> SuSe 6.3 (I know, it is really OLD, may be 6 months old by now,
> which in the linux world, comes to 5000 years).
>
> funny, that I had win95 for 5 years before I upgraded, and in
> all that time, never had an application not install becuase
> it needed something else to be there before it installed.
>
> only on linux is installing a program a chore.
>
> give linux 10 more years, may be they'll figure what the end
> user needs are.
>
>


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux lacks
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 06:23:45 GMT


"nf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <Oyl16.227$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> > While I disagree with nearly everything you spew forth in your posts,
I'll
> > side with you on this.
> >
> >
> > DBIV was a very unfunny joke and I never gave an Ashton-Tate product a
> > second glance from that point forward. If I could lay hands on a box
with a
> > 5 1/4" drive, I'd format over the floppies (Still have them somewhere)
out
> > of principal like I did with OS/2 2.0.
> >
>
> Please .... OS/2 2.0 (as bad as it was) was FAR better than dBase IV!
> :-)

Only because it was distributed on 18 3.5" floppies which are still useable
today. DB4, OTH, was distributed on 5.25" floppies. I can't even remember
where my 5.25 drives are at! ;}


--
Tom Wilson
Sunbelt Software Solutions







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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 01:35:19 -0500

billh wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> 
> > My uniform layout is as follows
> >
> >            [ACM][AAM]
> > [RCGCM][ASR][NDSM]
> >   [PUC][JMUC]                           [SWASM][OTR][IOSR]
> >
> 
> Again, you lie, KuKu.  You are truly pathetic.  Firstly, unit awards are
> only worn above the right pocket.  Secondly, you haven't been awarded the
> PUC.  Now, go somewhere else and try to inpress some teenagers bercause you
> sure haven't impressed any soldiers.
> 
> BTW there is no medal known by the acronym "ACM".  It's "ARCOM", wannabe.

Tell us again about your theory that German, Japanese, North Korean,
Chinese, VietCong, and North Vietnamese troops ALL obeyed the
Geneva Convention and NEVER fired at American medics.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 01:35:50 -0500

billh wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> 
> > You hae Zeeeeeeero credibility, loser.
> 
> KuKu, this is a wonderful statement since it comes from you.  Keep it up.

Tell us again about your theory that German, Japanese, North Korean,
Chinese, VietCong, and North Vietnamese troops ALL obeyed the
Geneva Convention and NEVER fired at American medics.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 01:35:57 -0500

billh wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> 
> > > He's yanking your chain, dude.
> >
> >
> > Proving that Max is Waaaaaaaaaay smarter than Bill.
> 
> KuKu, your a pathetic soul who lies desperately in the vain attempt to
> impress others.  You simple can't handle getting caught in your own lies.
> You are childish.  Grow up and mature a bit.  You'll do wonders for
> yourself.

Tell us again about your theory that German, Japanese, North Korean,
Chinese, VietCong, and North Vietnamese troops ALL obeyed the
Geneva Convention and NEVER fired at American medics.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 01:35:59 -0500

billh wrote:
> 
> "T. Max Devlin"
> 
> > >Kulkis has claimed to do things he hasn't.  One is that he has claimed to
> > >have been on classified ops that he can't talk about, yet he talks about
> > >them. [...]
> >
> > He's yanking your chain, dude.
> 
> No, actually he just pathetically and desperately tries to impress others by
> lying and can't handle it when he gets caught in those lies.

Bill even misses subtle clues like 'yank, yank, yank'

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 01:36:42 -0500

Det2 wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:27:15 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Det2 wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 03:42:41 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Det2 wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:22:50 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Translation:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Kulkis successfully fucked up us.military.army once, and Dave is
> >> >> >afraid of repeat performance.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Troll
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >And it only took you 14 months to figure it out
> >> >
> >>
> >> No son,
> >
> >I'm not your son...
> >
> 
> Sure, Specialist, we can play that game too.
> IF you are in the guard.
> You were given a lawful order awhile back. Try obeying it.
> 
> >> I was just pointing it out for the new folks.
> >
> >Who would they be?
> >
> >
> 
> Trolling again ?
> 
> >>
> >> And does this mean we can disount all the claims you've made in the
> >> past ?
> >
> >It means you're chasing your tail, as usual for the u.m.a bunch.
> >
> 
> NO it simple means we don't believe you OR your claims of
> missions in the Gulf or decorations granted.

Tell us again about your theory that German, Japanese, North Korean,
Chinese, VietCong, and North Vietnamese troops ALL obeyed the
Geneva Convention and NEVER fired at American medics.

> 
> SSG Paul D. Carrier
> Readiness NCO (63H & 45K)
> Det 2 Co. B 145 SPT BN
> Camp Withycombe, Clackamas OR


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 01:38:17 -0500

Tom Wilson wrote:
> 
> "Replacement Tommel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:91tj7g$j2b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >  Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In case you haven't noticed, EVERY able-bodied male citizen of
> > > > Switzerland between the ages of 17 and 45 is not only in the
> > >>military,
> > > > but, if not on active duty, REQUIRED to maintain his (full
> > >>automatic)
> > > > service rifle AT HOME.
> > >
> > > Good point.
> > >
> > > Now quit selfishly clogging the net with that big-ass signature.
> > > Thank God for compression.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> >
> > For bonus points, ask Aaron who "Tammy Hahn" is...
> 
> A friend of Jessica Baker's no doubt! :)

Precisely. :-)  


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looks kike Linux is taking the lead!
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 01:40:31 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >That's because they pander to pseudo-intellectual in-duh-viduals
> >who have a difficult time distinguishing between a computer monitor
> >and a boob tube.
> 
> In the spirit of Christmas, I'll shoot a ball for Steve's team:
> 
>   Q: How can you tell a Linux user from a Windows user?
>   A: When they walk up to a pretty woman in a boob tube working on a
>      computer, the one that looks at the cathode ray tube will be the
>      Linux user!

The smart ones only *PRETEND* to look at the cathode rays while
Actually looking at the boobs...


> 
> Hey, I didn't say I'd *score* for their team! So no need to tell me
> its lame.



> 
> Bernie
> --
> On the highest throne in the world, we still sit only on our own
>     bottom
> Montaigne
> French moralist, 1533-92


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Conclusion
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 01:42:25 -0500

Tom Wilson wrote:
> 
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Tom Wilson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  wrote
> > on Sun, 24 Dec 2000 13:58:32 GMT
> > <cin16.175$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >"Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:SG816.23891$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>
> > >> "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> news:922u16$hpp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > >>
> > >> Repeating the big lie,  Joe Goebbells would be proud of you.
> > >
> > >Looking for the 'H' word, I take it? ;)
> >
> > Hell?
> >
> > Harpies?
> >
> > Hatred?
> >
> > Hat rack?
> >
> > Hoopla?
> >
> > Hacked-up numbers?
> >
> > Hacked systems?
> >
> > Hurts?
> >
> > Hertz?
> >
> > Hambone?
> >
> > (um...can you give us a hint, here? :-) )
> >
> > [.sigsnip]
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random word beginning with 'H' here
> >                     up 88 days, 9:23, running Linux.
> 
> Last hint:   Heil!

FUCK Godwin and his stupid premise.


> 
> PS: I don't believe invocation works without someone calling sombody else a
> Nazi first. You may call me one if you wish as i'm fairly thick-skinned and
> not likely to be offended.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: steve@x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: 24 Dec 2000 22:15:07 -0800

In article <926akb$dgv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
 
>
>Fortunately, if took a look at abisource.com.  You'll notice that they
>were nice enough to package two versions of 0.7.12; one for RPM 4 and one
>for RPM 3.
>
>Take a look at http://www.abisource.com/dl_linux_intel.phtml.  Select
>abisuite-gnome-0.7.12.i386.rpm if you have GNOME installed,  
>abisuite-0.7.12.i386.rpm if not.
>
>Clearly, this was an easy problem to solve.  I found the solution in all
>of 17 seconds.

I found it in 10 seconds. not 17. long before I posted my first post.
 
The problem is that the abi rpm above, will not install on my Suse system,
becuase the above rpm needs another rpm file (gtk+ 1.2.8) which in turns
will not install, becuase it needs rpm V4, which I can't install becuase
that in turn needs a package to exist first, which I can;t install becuase
that package in turns needs rpm V4 to install

root>rpm -Uhv abisuite-0.7.12.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
        gtk+ >= 1.2.7 is needed by abisuite-0.7.12-1
root>
root>rpm -Uhv gtk+-1.2.8-10.i686.rpm
only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this version of RPM
error: gtk+-1.2.8-10.i686.rpm cannot be installed
root>

I am tired chasing rpm files over the net. each needing another needing
another. my time important. I guess I am a normal user who expected to
just type one command or click on one button and be done with it, But on
Linux, things work differently. One must waste hours and have a PhD in
hacking, just to install one program.
  


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