Linux-Advocacy Digest #153, Volume #31 Sun, 31 Dec 00 03:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Uptimes ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Uptimes ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Could only... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code (Form@C)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Who LOVES Linux again? ("Les Mikesell")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 02:02:58 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> Have you ever used the Windows console, (Not the MSDOS prompt)?
>
> All the functionality is there of bash, and if not provided by the console
> interface, then by console apps.
20 years too late...
>
> "Richard Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:92lodh$bah$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The main problem I would see with a Windoze telnet server would be that
> > there is nothing to telnet to. The MS-DOS prompt (lets face it) - is crap,
> > not a patch on the Bourne Again Shell. If you want to use a system like
> VNC
> > to give a remote login to the GUI then fine.
> >
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 02:03:57 -0500
Otto wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> : > Corporations has been slow discovering Open Source and they are even
> slower
> : > adopting it.
> :
> : ITT was "slow" to discover telephony....and so, foolishly sold over
> : their cable infrastructure (95% at that time) to Bell and his associates.
> :
> : Which merely demonstrates that those who are slowest to incorporate
> : the ramifications of new information and ideas into their business
> : will soon be knocked down several rungs on the ladder, while those
> : who DO incorporate the new information and ideas will rise to the top.
>
> Except for the fact that the telephone was a new idea and provided a
> service, which did not exist before. Open Source on the other hand does not
> offer any new ideas, much less services what people need.
You mean like TCP/IP?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:06:33 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Tom Hall in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:40:54
> >"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:2m636.4445$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ooh, quick, lets spread that "fact" so we can pretend to have refuted
> the numbers (again). It is really pretty amazing how far you
> Micro-softheads are willing to go to spread dis-information.
Questioning statistics isn't exclusively the right of Microsoft fanatics.
I base my opinions not on Netcraft numbers, but with prior experience.
Non-MS OS's have better uptimes.
Period.
End of story.
Thank you and goodnight.
--
Tom Wilson
A Computer Programmer who wishes he'd chosen another vocation.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:07:42 GMT
Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 30 Dec 2000 23:02:48
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:27:47
>> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 14:00:24
>> >> [...]
>> >> >What assinine behavior did the Republicans demonstrate?
>> >>
>> >> Posting drivel to Usenet.
>> >
>> >Ah yes. And here ends the argument. When faced with FACTS, Democrats
>> >always back down and result to personal attacks and such.
>> >
>> >Just admit your wrong, Max, and move on. Beware, though, admitting
>> >your wrong and accepting the truth automatically makes you a
>> >conservative.
>>
>> Guffaw. I'm not even a Democrat to begin with, you putz.
>
>Your actions make you an honorary one, though. You certainly are a
>liberal, though.
Strike two. I'm a moderate.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:07:45 GMT
Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 30 Dec 2000 23:03:45
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 30 Dec 2000 19:35:59
>> >"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> Chad Myers wrote:
>> [...]
>> >> > Please Max, stop the lying. It only serves to embarass you.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Please stop saying people are lying. You sound like a second-grader.
>> >
>> >I proved he was lying on several occasions. If you wish to debate like
>> >adults, please stop lying and personally attacking people.
>>
>> Thanks for trying, Chris, but obviously Chad is just a putz.
>
>I hope all of you have seen how I have finally won this argument.
Guffaw.
>My
>two only opponents (Chris and Max) have descended into infantile
>name-calling because they refuse to debate on facts and merit.
Congratulations, you're a troll.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:07:44 GMT
Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 30 Dec 2000 23:01:49
[...]
>While your at it, please show where Republicans have bent the rules.
>After all, this is what T. Max was claiming, which is an obvious
>lie. I called him a liar, and I proved it. Now, prove why I am a liar.
You just did.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 02:08:00 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> AN operating system is only as good as the programs that run on it.
wrong. An OS is only as good as it's kernel. New Programs can be
developed in parallel by anybody who has a copy of development tools.
But the kernel can only be improved by a rather limited group of
people.
>
> Therefor, Linux sucks.
Linux will beat LoseDOS (in all forms) decades before Microsoft
ever puts out a decent kernal that doesn't crash at the drop of a pin.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 06:09:51 GMT, "Kyle Jacobs"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Ah yes, "Linux is easy to use".
> > >
> > >Alright, fine, LINUX is easy to use.
> > >
> > >Now make ALL the programs under it easy, and then we'll talk.
> >
> > Linux is not about programs. Linux is the kernel. Repeat after
> > me....Linux is the kernel....Linux is the kernel....Linux is the
> > .......
> >
> > Linux is pathetic.
> >
> >
> > Flatfish
> > Why do they call it a flatfish?
> > Remove the ++++ to reply.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:09:35 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Adam Ruth in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:28:00
> >> Incorrect. It's not the IP packet header, but the TCP packet header.
I
> >> know it's easy to confuse them, but just a point of clarification.
> >
> >Oops.
> >
> >> > Uptimes: The client runs as a service, and you can set it to run
under
> >> the
> >> > admin account.
> >
> >I know. The question was how does it get past the restriction of uptime
> >information available only to admins.
>
> Well, in light of the current theory, that the uptime timeticks counter
> is used as a sequence number value, the answer would be the incompetence
> of Microsoft programmers.
Or ingenuity on their part to hide dismal uptime performance...
Nahh, that would have required forethought...Silly me.
--
Tom Wilson
A Computer Programmer who wishes he'd chosen another vocation.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could only...
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 02:12:34 -0500
eXistenZ wrote:
>
> In article <92feq6$m9o$04$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
>
> >
> > But donīt forget, not rifles are killing, the guy at the trigger makes the
> > problem. Otherwise Switzerland would be empty.
>
> I Don't know the reason why, but compared to the US Switzerland *is*
> empty.
>
> > And deadly violence can
> > happen without gunsmoke. If you want a real adventure, get dark skin and
> > have a walk through Magdeburg in the evening. Itīs not a problem caused by
> > weapons, itīs a problem in the brains.
>
> I agree, but still I don't think that arming people would be the
> solution. Far from it.
Every mass-murderer of this century (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.)
disarmed the citizens first.
Therefore, it is easily demonstrated that to keep government closet-thugs
IN THE CLOSET it is necessary to have a well-armed citizenry.
Remove the ability of the people to resist government agents, and you
risk a bloodbath on the proportion of MILLIONS.
Remember...Government is POWER...and POWER ATTRACTS CRIMINALS.
THEREFORE, powerful government jobs ATTRACT CRIMINALS.
>
> eXistenZ
> --
> After three days in the desert fun
> I was looking at a river bed
> And the story it told of a river that flowed
> Made me sad to think it was dead
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Form@C)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:26:43 GMT
"Keldon Warlord 2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 03:24:44 +1200, "Adam Warner"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >"Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code"
>> >
>>
>> More proof of the twisted minds of the Penguinista's.
>>
>> It's not even funny?
>>
>
>what I don't get is how the hell can somebody "steal" something that is
>given away for free???
Is it? Sorry, I hadn't realised that you didn't need to pay for a full RH7
distro. Do RH know this?
:-)
--
Mick
Olde Nascom Computers - http://www.mixtel.co.uk
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 07:32:31 GMT
"John W. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >
> > "John W. Stevens" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good, one more fruit wombat distracted by Rush's blatherings.
> > >
> > > Interestingly enough, they guy whose in Rush's seat while he's on
> > > vacation discussed just exactly the tactic you use here: personal
> > > attack.
> >
> > Hey, I learned a lot listening to Rush!
>
> ;-)
>
> > > > I went to his web site, and came back very disturbed by the
> > > > type of paranoia and bigotry I found at alt.rush-limbaugh.
> > >
> > > But the racism, paranoia and outright calls for revolution that 'ole
> > > Rev. Jackson regulary spews don't bother you at all, do they?
> >
> > Whenever he spews it, yeah. Which seems to be pretty infrequently.
>
> Only every time he gets the microphone on a national issue . . . if
> I hear "Dred Scott", or "Selma" from his lips one more time, I'm
> going to give him the signal honor of being the first living person
> in my life, that I refuse to listen to.
>
> I have an empty kill file. I regularly read even the most rabidly
> anti-intellectual Democratic columnists, I listen to both sides on
> the political talk shows . . . but Jackson is just to much.
About the only thing he stands for now, is face time on television. He's
went the way of Al Sharpton, which is sad.
>
> > You know what's a really funny trick? Forwarding porno
> > to a fellow's company e-mail. I did that to a friend of
> > mine at Lucent, and he expressed worry about the monitoring
> > by the local Gestapo-soft. But, actually, the stuff I sent
> > him was pretty mild (e.g. "naughty nuns").
>
> What's funny about that? Nobody can be responsible for what
> other people send them . . .
That fact still doesn't prevent some eyebrows from being raised.
It's certainly not funny if the guy gets in hot water over it.
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Who LOVES Linux again?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 08:00:47 GMT
"Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:JjA36.81373$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Alt-Fn to a new console screen, you idiot.
>
> You CAN'T. The whole computer is locked SOLID. The keyboard is not
> responding, nor is the mouse, or any other human interface device attached
> to the computer.
>
> It's called a "freeze", and you Linux nuts don't want to admit they exist
> under Linux.
Why would anyone whose machines don't freeze say that they do? Mine
don't.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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