Linux-Advocacy Digest #158, Volume #31 Sun, 31 Dec 00 17:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: How do you install KDE in Redhat6.0? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why Hatred? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How do you install KDE in Redhat6.0? (J Sloan)
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why Hatred? ("Donn Miller")
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code ("Keldon Warlord 2000")
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code ("Keldon Warlord 2000")
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code ("Keldon Warlord 2000")
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code ("Keldon Warlord 2000")
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Redhat needs an update tool. Was: My pet peeve (Perry Pip)
Re: Redhat needs an update tool. Was: My pet peeve (Perry Pip)
Re: Microsoft deemed security threat to U.S. (Perry Pip)
Re: Why Hatred? (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Who LOVES Linux again? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: redhat.x.general,alt.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How do you install KDE in Redhat6.0?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:26:20 +0000
>
> I'd like to run KDE because it's most similar to the Microsoft GUIs that I
> am accustomed to, and I'd like to familiarize myself w/Linux (and eventually
> Unix in general).
Have you come across fvwm98? It is even closer to win 98 than KDE. KDE
is more similar to CDE which is quite common on UNIX systems.
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:29:03 +0000
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> mlw wrote:
>
> > I can understand why Linux users hate Windows, it is something we are
> > too frequently forced to use even though it, as an operating
> > environment, is terrible at best.
>
> Oh life is so hard using Windows isn't it!
Actually life IS hard with windows. I lost a game of internet chess
today because windows froze on me! And that is annoying as I'm trying
to prepare for a tournament next weekend.
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.x.general,alt.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How do you install KDE in Redhat6.0?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:36:43 GMT
Sphinx367 wrote:
> I'm a Linux newbie, and I am running RedHat 6.0, and when I run
> "switchdesk", only the Gnome and Other GUIs are available. Is there some way
> to install/enable the KDE gui (if it's installed) without re-installing
> RedHat 6.0?
Definitely don't reinstall - one habit that seems prevalent
among newbies from a windows background is the impulse
to completely reinstall the OS to address minor configuration
issues.
> I'd like to run KDE because it's most similar to the Microsoft GUIs that I
> am accustomed to, and I'd like to familiarize myself w/Linux (and eventually
> Unix in general). In my spare time, I am reading the book "RedHat Linux
> Secrets" by Naba Barkakati. What do you all think of this book w/regard to
> getting a "newbie" up and running on Red Hat quickly? What do you think of
> learning the GUI, as opposed to sticking w/the "command line" prompt?
Well, how was kde installed? from rpms? kde should show up
automatically on the login screen.
The other thing that strikes me is that 6.0 is pretty stale by
now, and you'll find it is becoming difficult to keep up with
the current apps. Since you're an admitted newbie, why not
start off with something a bit more recent, say Red Hat 7?
As far as desktop environments, I switch between helix gnome,
kde 2, blackbox, and icewm. There's a little gem called selectwm
which I use as my default window manager. Upon logging into
X, one is presented with a menu of available window managers.
When one is selected, the chosen window manager starts up.
Upon logout, the selection box returns, and one can either choose
a window manager all over again, or logout.
I can supply the 2 or 3 needed conf files if you like. They are
small and very straightforward, but you may want to see them
anyway.
jjs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.linux.sucks,alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:52:21 GMT
J Sloan wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Then we would have to change it's name to Linux. Oh Linux has
> > "applications", but they are hardly anything a home user would want to
> > use. Even if they are free.
>
> Star office, netscape, gimp, napster, xmms, quake 3 arena,
> unreal tounament, heavy gear 2, tribes 2 etc - all the apps
> one needs, and more - BTW do you live under a rock?
>
> Your rants just don't make any sense...
>
> jjs
Gee, for Linux not having anything that a home user would want to use I
sure do use it a lot. I guess 99.99% of the time is a lot. I also have a
Windows 98 box and a Mac. I really hate booting up the Windows box it is
so slolw and crashes so often; talk about not being able to use
something! So what is the the use of having all those applications if
all they do is crash the computer? My mac is not so bad, just don't have
the money to buy very many programs for it.
keep on computin',
jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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From: "Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 16:10:13 -0500
"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:nzL36.124391$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Currently I'm certainly not afraid of Linux. I _want_ Linux to compete
with
> Windows. I just wish it did! What amazes me is the depths of insults you
> guys have to stoop to when things don't go your way
Meet Linux's newest competitor. I plan (no pun intended) on trying this bad
boy out!
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 21:25:44 GMT
mud wrote:
>
> And if the number would have been the other way around windows users would
> have never heard the end of this.
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm still skeptical. Why then are Linux books such a large segment of
> > computer books in the bookstores nowadays?
> >
> > Too many factors here. It still seems to me that the site merely counts
> > systems that are using the counter. So it could simply be that this
> > site merely has a counter popular with "Windows system administrators".
> > In spite of your long and irrelevant claim of trust in big numbers,
> > you haven't confirmed what the numbers mean.
> >
> > Chris
Are you saying that I am not impartial? I want to score points for
Linux, but not at the expense of hiding something or lying. In any case,
had I been so devious as to make such an argument, I'm sure a computer
programmer or other logical person would point out the non-causality of
the numbers.
Hell, I can't even joke or say something decent without getting
zapped.
Chris
--
Patiently awaiting the denouement of the Howie Long and
Terry Hatcher saga.
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From: "Keldon Warlord 2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:30:01 -0800
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Keldon Warlord 2000 wrote:
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 03:24:44 +1200, "Adam Warner"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >"Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code"
> > > >
> > >
> > > More proof of the twisted minds of the Penguinista's.
> > >
> > > It's not even funny?
> > >
> >
> > what I don't get is how the hell can somebody "steal" something that is
> > given away for free???
>
> What part of HUMOR do you not understand?
>
now there's a big PKB! ....tell me, do you also laugh at "00100101"?
>
>
> >
> > --
> > "One by one the Penguins steal my sanity." (found printed on a T-shirt)
> >
> > > Now "Linux" THAT'S FUNNY!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Flatfish
> > > Why do they call it a flatfish?
> > > Remove the ++++ to reply.
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Keldon Warlord 2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:30:31 -0800
"Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:5lA36.81397$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > What part of HUMOR do you not understand?
>
> Your pathetic, nerdly excuse for it.
>
>
*nods*
--
"One by one the Penguins steal my sanity." (found printed on a T-shirt)
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From: "Keldon Warlord 2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:32:08 -0800
"Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:CWC36.1588$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Lord Metalicat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Must be a really smart ass to steal Open Source..
>
> I'd like to see someone steal Microsoft source then give it back to
them --
> Fully debugged. ;)
>
>
>
>
lol
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From: "Keldon Warlord 2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:34:45 -0800
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:7ohn29.dpn.ln@gd2zzx...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Keldon Warlord 2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 03:24:44 +1200, "Adam Warner"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code"
> >> >
> >>
> >> More proof of the twisted minds of the Penguinista's.
> >>
> >> It's not even funny?
> >>
> >
> > what I don't get is how the hell can somebody "steal" something that is
> > given away for free???
>
> It's really sad when sarcasm and wit isn't noticed anymore. They
> make the English language so special. As Peter Ustinov said,
> English is the only language where you need to interpret the
> law. :-)
its really sad that you think that those attributes of the human language
can be adequately expressed in a written forum.
--
"One by one the Penguins steal my sanity." (found printed on a T-shirt)
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 21:40:11 GMT
JSPL wrote:
>
>
> What they mean is there isn't anyone out there surfing the internet using
> Linux.
> Therefore there is either:
>
> A.) A dispropotionate number of Linux users not connected to the internet
> compared to say....Windows users. I'd guess if anything though it's
> proportioned the other way though. A higher percentage of Linux users ARE
> connected as opposed to percentage of Windows users.
>
> OR
>
> B.) The actual Linux market share is about 3 per 1000 users (as per the
> unwavering monthly percentages which surf the net).
Sorry, I guess I misunderstood what you said here:
> Better go back and read some more. It's compiling stats from about 566,000
> different websites (as of Jan. 2000) which use the counter.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Again, you're assuming that usage of the counter (it is still not clear
what that means -- can you point out a link that explains the statistics
at thecounter.com/stats/2000/?) is relatively the same
for each operating system. Which might include assuming that the
relative proportion of sites linking to thecounter.com is the same
no matter what operating system the linking site prefers.
Chris
--
Patiently awaiting the denouement of the Howie Long and
Terry Hatcher saga.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: Redhat needs an update tool. Was: My pet peeve
Date: 31 Dec 2000 21:26:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:20:36 +0200,
Karen Rosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I saw at Slashdot a posting about a new company, which has an automatic
> Upgrade/Downgrade/Install/Uninstall and more goodies.
>
>The company name is Aduva, it sounds like it does the job for you...
>
>www.aduva.com
>
1) It's a third party tool...it will break everytime RH changes their dist.
2) It's gui based...and thus not flexible or capable of being automated.
3) It's even open source....they want to charge for commercial use.
Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: Redhat needs an update tool. Was: My pet peeve
Date: 31 Dec 2000 21:28:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Dec 2000 19:12:27 -0700,
Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip) writes:
>
>> On 24 Dec 2000 13:02:15 -0700,
>> Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip) writes:
>> >
>> >Sorry, I'd actually use this:
>> >
>> > rpmfind --latest --upgrade `rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}\\n"`
>>
>> But it still won't work becuase rpmfind insists on using standard
>> (i.e. non-update) packages from the RH70 dist, instead of the updates
>> for my RH62 dist.
>
>True -- you'd have to be running the latest distribution in order to
>do this.
So it's not very flexible.:(
>> >But, no, I upgrade by hand usually (call me paranoid),
>>
>> Translation: Current methods for upgrading redhat are not easy or as
>> reliable as apt-get and you have to do it by hand. I don't have to be
>> paranoid with apt-get, it has worked seamlessly for years. And before
>> apt-get, I could do reliable upgrades with dselect.
>
>I'd stil be downloading the packages locally because I have several
>machines to update;
Ftp mirror the archive locally via a cron job.
>it wouldn't save *me* any time.
apt-get update && apt-get upgrade can be run from a cron job. *That*
saves time!! Redhat has no such tool.
>> >or use rpmfind
>> >with a '-s my_local_machine' that has the RPMS I want to use. I do
>> >this with about 20 machines regularly.
>>
>> My current method is to use wget to ftp mirror the RH62 updates
>> directory, temporarily move the RPMS I don't want and do 'rpm -Fvh
>> *.rpm'. That's inefficient and messy.
>
>If you're going to pick and choose the packages,
With debian I don't have to pick and choose. It get's the packages the
way I want. RPM on Redhat forces me to have a kernel package, which
every rpm based upgrade tool forces me to upgrade.
>you're going to have
>to regardless the system you use.
>
I've never had to with debian.
>It's messy.
Not at all for me with debian.
>> >> So now you can see it wants to install RH 7.0 packages, which, if you
>> >> check Redhats errata page, isn't event the right sucurity update for
>> >> RH 7.0. RH 7.0 isn't even mention in the /etc/rpmfind.conf file. But
>> >> as it turns out, the tool created a new file, ~/.rpmfind and put RH
>> >> 7.0 in it. So I fix up the ~/.rpmfind, take the RH7.0 out of it,
>> >> verify RH62 is at the top, and now everytime I run it it overwrites
>> >> the ~/.rpmfind file with it's own configuration!!! What a peice of
>> >> shit!!
>> >
>> >If you just want RedHat 6.2 official security updates:
>> >
>> >#!/usr/bin/perl
>> >$RDIR =
>'ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/mounts/u2/mirrors/redhat/redhat/updates/6.2/\i386/';
>> >@files = `ncftpls $RDIR`;
>> >foreach $file (@files) {
>> > print `rpm --Fvh $RDIR/$file`;
>> >}
>>
>> That would unfortanely upgrade my kernel if it worked all, Craig. But
>> it won't work becuase when you call RPM on the updates one by
>> one RPM will fail with broken dependancies. You need a line like:
>>
>> print `rpm --Fvh $RDIR/*.rpm`
>>
>> But the wildcard won't work using RPM over FTP.
>
>Or, just check the return value of rpm and repeat the failed files
>with an outer loop.
No thank you. That's messy!!
>> >All the tools are there.
>>
>> And for Redhat they work like shit. That's why you have to do it
>> manually, or come up with a hack, right??
>
>But I'd be doing it manually regardless, so yes.
Why would you be doing it manually if you used debian??
>> >If you don't want to use up2date, gnorpm, or
>> >rpmfind -- you have many options. This all fits into the UNIX KISS
>> >philosophy quite well (IMHO).
>>
>> But all of these methods aren't what *I* want: an integrated method
>> provided by the distributor. As long as you rely on third party hacks
>> you are at much more risk of breaking your system with an
>> upgrade. Isn't that why you do it manually?? Couldn't you do something
>> better with your time?? apt-get can be run reliably from a cron job.
>
>I don't know what *you* want -- if RPM isn't it then that's fine.
You don't get it at all, do you?? RPM is a package manager, like dpkg
on debian. Apt-get is a package management system which acts as a
front end to the package manager and manages things like resolving
dependancies, security updates and distribution upgrades. Redhat has
no such tool, nor anything even close. Redhat needs a proven reliable
system for installing updates that can easily be run daily.
It would also be nice to have a means of upgrading the distribution
without having to take the machine down and without having all of your
configuration files overwritten with xxx.rpmsave. As it stands now,
it's much more hassle to keep a Redhat system up to date w/ security
patches than it is Debian or any of the BSD's. Upgrading your 20 RH
machines to a new RH release must be a real PITA.
>> >> Tell me how you get this POS to work on your system, Craig. This is a
>> >> major weakness of Redhat, IMHO. Debian, the BSD's and even Win2k all
>> >> have decently reliable update tools. With Redhat, you have up2date,
>> >> which limits you to X-windows and wants you to pay for 'priority
>> >> access', or a third party tool. The problem with third party tools is
>> >> every time RH changes their dist it's gonna potentially break the
>> >> third party tool.
>> >
>> >1) It's different, not worse
>>
>> Bullshit!! It's clearly worse. None of the solutions you have given
>> me will work. And as you admit, you do it manually.
>
>They work just fine for *me*.
You have time to waste and the patience to put up with the hassle of
doing it manually. I have better things to do with my time.
>> >2) Windows hotfixes are not automated at all
>>
>> Running Windows update from w2k has seemed work for me almost as
>> easily as apt-get from he command line. Though it would be difficult
>> to fully automate it, it's much easier than redhat.
>
>But then you have to be running Windows 2000 -- how can you say that
>when RedHat 7.0 annoys you?
The point is that even Microsoft is ahead of RH in the area of an
update tool.
>> >3) Debian is indeed cool, but it's not *that* much different
>>
>> Sure it is. It fucking works!! It's an integrated part of the
>> distribution. It's has worked seamlessly for years. And it is easily
>> run from a cron job. Instead of being paranoid like you are with
>> Redhat, Debian apt-get gives me a warm cozy feeling.
>
>Updating my local mirror gives me the same feeling.
You have time to waste and the patience to put up with the hassle of
doing it manually. I have better things to do with my time.
>> >4) You don't need to pay for 'priority access' at all
>>
>> No, but Redhat's native tool, up2date, is X-window bound, slow as shit,
>> and impossible to automate. Do you use Debian at all, Craig??
>
>Yes, I have one debian box.
And you obviously haven't spent enough time on it to learn the
advantages of apt-get.
>But I'd prefer not to deal with it
>because I use Oracle extensivly and it works under RedHat without any
>modifications.
>
Translation: You are tied to a commercial product that only supports
Redhat well. So you're trying to justify it and make it sound like it's
not as bad as it is. You'd make a good Windows advocate, Craig.:)
Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: Microsoft deemed security threat to U.S.
Date: 31 Dec 2000 21:33:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's only one solution, Charlie. In order to protect our national
security the Military should immediately sieze control of Microsoft,
and reimplement their OS using a BSD kernel.
Perry
On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:37:29 GMT,
Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/12/29/csis.microsoft.report.idg
>/index.html
>
>And it only took them 3 months to figure this out!
>
>Charlie
>
>
>
--
Perry Piplani http://www.netservers.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://perrypip.netservers.com
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 21:55:17 +0000
mlw wrote:
> It is. Once you are used to an OS that does not crash, is reliable, and
> has all the features that Linux has, working with Windows feels like
> shaving a balloon.
But Linux does not have the features I want, so I'm stuck between Windows
and Linux.
> > > What I can't understand, is the bitter hatred and resentment that some
> > > of the Windows zealots have. They have freedom of choice, they can use
> > > their environment to their hearts content, they can buy almost any
> > > software for it. Why spread FUD and criticize a different environment?
> >
> > Because you guys keep reporting misinformation about Windows that's why!
>
> Not I. Maybe others, but I do not post what I do not believe to be true.
> If I'm wrong, I admit it, but I do not post something I know to be
> false.
You just did. Take a look at the following. You seem to think Windows
zealots are afraid of Linux.
> > > The only reason I can come up with is fear. They must be afraid of
> > > Linux. The only reason they would have to be afraid is because Linux
> > > is better than Windows. They have to know this, else they would not be
> > > afraid.
> >
> > Currently I'm certainly not afraid of Linux. I _want_ Linux to compete
> > with Windows. I just wish it did! What amazes me is the depths of
> > insults you guys have to stoop to when things don't go your way!
>
> I know you can't be talking about me.
No _you_ haven't but others certainly stoop to that level.
--
Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:02:35 -0500
redc1c4 wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> > >
> > > Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 29 Dec 2000
> > > >redc1c4 wrote:
> > > >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >> (snipage occurs)
> > > >> > Ask Bill about how belief that EVERY German, Japanese, North Korean,
> > > >> > Chinese, VietCong, and North Vietnamese combatant observed the
> > > >> > Geneva Convention and refrained from firing at medics.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Then ask him why in WW2, Korea, and VietNam, for EACH war, medics
> > > >> > a casualty rate 50% higher than the infantry serving in the same war.
> > > >>
> > > >> better yet, ask erron, the mad eunuch engineer, to post where Bill,
> > > >> myself, or any other reg posted such tripe. then ask him to produce
> > > >> verifiable cites to back his claim. he won't do it, 'cause he can't.
> > > >
> > > >Of course, when DejaNews restores their entire message-base again,
> > > >it will be quite evident.
> > > >
> > > >If you don't recall, it was PRECISELY because I *dared* to mention
> > > >that historically, our enemies have considered our medics to be
> > > >high priority targets in an ambush that got your (yellowc1c4's),
> > > >Bill Hudson's, Dave Casey's, and V-(wo)man's undies in such a bunch.
> > >
> > > So in other words; Aaron invented the whole "theory" by misrepresenting
> > > others' statements, as typical of the stupid and pathetically trollish
> > > bullshit he posts as a hobby. 'Nuff said.
> > >
> >
> > SSSShhhhhhhh! They might hear you!
>
> oh puhleeeeeeeeezzzzzze. you only came up with the "i'm a troll" bullshit
> once you'd been spanked repeatedly on facts, here and elsewhere.
> you can run, but you can't hide, wannabe.
So says the man who claims that medics never get shot because they're
protected by a magic force field....or something.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Who LOVES Linux again?
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:04:26 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Alt-Fn to a new console screen, you idiot.
>
> You CAN'T. The whole computer is locked SOLID. The keyboard is not
> responding, nor is the mouse, or any other human interface device attached
> to the computer.
>
> It's called a "freeze", and you Linux nuts don't want to admit they exist
> under Linux.
You dipshit. The keyboard I/O is interrupt driven. It *CAN'T* freeze.
MORON.
Repeat after me... LINUX IS ***NOT**** LOSE-DOS.....
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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