Linux-Advocacy Digest #173, Volume #31 Mon, 1 Jan 01 14:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Hatred? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Hatred? (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge ("JSPL")
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Hatred? (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("JSPL")
Re: Linux vs Microsoft ("Nigel Feltham")
Re: Microsoft deemed security threat to U.S. (Glitch)
Re: Suggestions for Linux ("Nigel Feltham")
Re: Linux vs Microsoft (Glitch)
Re: linux price? (Glitch)
Re: Happy New Year~ (Glitch)
Re: LCSDNYR 2001 -> standards, standards, standards (spicerun)
Re: Why Hatred? (mlw)
Re: Linux vs Microsoft (SwifT -)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("billh")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:21:41 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writ:
>
> > >
> > It's NOT a question of flexibility, dumbass, it's a question of
> > what the DEFAULT settings are.
> >
> > Why should I, or any other user, be required to give special instructions
> > to make the editor behave in a rational manner?
> >
>
> Maybe so it would be found non-functional to some twit who
> wandered in off the street.
>
> You sound like the M$_Word_Only crowd. There is more than one way
> to skin a cat.
Supposed the default character set for MS-word was one used by some
remote African tribe that doesn't even have electricity.
Would you consider that to be a logical default setting?
>
> Vacuo
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:22:32 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> > Because they are afraid of change. They might have to learn something.
>
> About the only people I can see that are afraid on change are the Linux
> zealots.
>
> In case you hadn't noticed, Windows API changes very often. Microsoft are
> adding new stuff to it quite rapidly (and not always wisely).
Same Shit / Different Disguise doesnt count as "change"
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:30:00 +0000
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> 1) Took them several days to get it to work out of the box. This has
> gotten better in recent distro's, but about 2 years ago it could be quite
> a challenge.
Even when I tried slackware several years ago, it didn't take me several
days to get it working out of the box.
> 2) Overwhelming amount of work needed to acomplish even minor tasks.
Mail works, KNode is pretty good, web access is fine. Some things I agree:
trying to view my database of images is not too hot with KDE 2.0. I
understand there something called Pixie in KDE 2.1beta1 which may address
my needs but I don't have that yet.
> 3) Lack of functionality.
Linux lags behind Windows?
> 4) And mostly, becuse after fidling with it for a week they realize
> they've been wasting their time.
I've been fiddling with it for far longer than a week and I still use it.
My file server I've converted to Linux (again) and this time it's just
working fine, Samba and all.
--
Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:25:52 -0500
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <
>
> > > > So says the man who claims that medics never get shot because they're
> > > > protected by a magic force field....or something.
> > >
> > > Same force that made you a combat vet inside the Iraqi borders. LOL!!!
> >
> > See bill admit that he's a liar.
>
> LOL!!! Do you actually try to be stupid. You can't naturally be this
> stupid, can you?
Tell us again how American medics were never shot by the Germans, Japanese,
North Koreans, Chinese, Viet Cong, nor North Vietnamese, because they
are protected by a magic force field, or something...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "JSPL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:30:19 -0500
Reply-To: "JSPL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 18:55:33 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> >I'm still skeptical. Why then are Linux books such a large segment of
> >computer books in the bookstores nowadays?
>
> Because there's a market! Contrary to what some WinZealots want us to
> think, people are using Linux.
>
>
> >Too many factors here. It still seems to me that the site merely counts
> >systems that are using the counter. So it could simply be that this
> >site merely has a counter popular with "Windows system administrators".
>
> Counter sites tend to be popular with unskilled webmasters and people
> who use free hosting services. IOW, I wouldn't count on the sample to
> be at all representative of "the world at large".
I've followed the site for a couple years. Mainly for the other trends which
the site reports such as browsers and screen resolutions of web surfers. The
stats given over the last couple years for browsers have just about mirrored
other polls for browser use. They pretty much followed the trend away from
Netscapes one time 80% share to it's current 15% share. They've followed the
migration from win95 to win98 closely.
Apple corp claims a market share of 3% or so, thecounter.com registers the
Mac OS 2% of the time every month consistently out of 500,000,000 computers
sampled monthly. That's slightly different (1%) but I wouldn't imagine apple
would publish an UNDER ESTIMATE of their market share, so the difference
(I'd say) is due to a slightly skewed polling technique at Apple since the
polling technique used by thecounter.com merely uses information
automatically sent from one computer to another with no human intervention
whatsoever.
Then you have Linvocates who claim a market share of roughly TEN TIMES
greater than what hundreds of millions of random pollings are showing, AND
showing consistently month after month, year after year.
Unless someone can show that people using Linux somehow have radically
different surfing patterns than anyone using Windows or Mac, I'd say these
numbers are mirroring real life. thecounter.com now claims that their
counter is installed on one million sites, and the stats provided (for free)
are AS GOOD as any server logs available to anyone without root privileges
to a server which is probably 95% of websites out there.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:27:50 -0500
Nick Saxon wrote:
>
> Congratulations, Mr. Aaron R.Kulkis!
> You have been killfiled here.
>
> Nick
Translation: Saxon concedes that he has lost the argument.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:37:14 +0000
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> After you've configured PPP.
That's hard is it? I mean, what details do you need that are so different
from Dial Up Networking on Windows?
> After you figure out how to configure the mail program.
Again, that's hard is it? Same amount of detail as required on Windows.
> > To start the word processor you click on the icon
>
> After you figure out how to install it.
Huh? I installed StarOffice with no trouble.
> > To play quake 3 arena you click on the icon.
>
> I've never seen a distro with quake 3 arena installed.
Mandrake Deluxe has it. Unfortunately my copy was corrupted. That has to be
the first CD I've seen with a corrupted file.
> > How is this an "overwhelming amount of work"?
>
> Install something from a tarball? Unless you already know the syntax to
> tar, you'll spend an hour figuring out how to do it. Then you'll spend an
> hour trying to figure out what you're supposed to do afterwards.
I learnt basic tar syntax ages ago. I never forgot it.
tar xvf file.tar
xvf stands for "extract verify file"
tar tvf file
tvf stands for "test verify file"
tar cvf file *.*
cvf stands for "create verify file"
Again, that's hard is it? I learnt that from one of those man pages I love
to moan about (sic). Oh yeah, on Digital UNIX of course, that system that
is _so_ different from Linux I can't even begin to compare the two (sorry,
I'm being sarcastic to those Linux zealots who claim I haven't used Linux
enough) - see below.
> Ok, contact management software. Where is it? CAD software equivelant to
> AutoCAD or other high end CAD tools? What about MIDI tools?
Ah know we're talking.
> If you just spent a week trying to figure something out, and you're not
> much better off than you were when you started, that's not an uninformed
> opinion.
Appararently, Linux zealots believe you need at least a few months with
Linux to have an opinion. Some tell me my two years experience with Digital
Unix is irrelevant (unbelievable!). I mean, how different is Linux from
Digital UNIX!
--
Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
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From: "JSPL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:37:16 -0500
Reply-To: "JSPL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 01:28:58 GMT, Chad Myers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >> No, you claimed that the Democrats were trying to "subvert the rule of
> >> law."
> >
> >Which they were. You didn't even answer the claims, instead stooping to
> >name calling.
>
> How is going to court "subverting" the rule of law? I've always been
> under the impression that you went to court to get an interpretation of
> the law, not to subvert it. Subverting would involve something
> extra-legal, such as paying off the people counting the ballots or
> voting on behalf of dead people.
>
> Maybe I missed a civics lesson someplace where they defined lawsuits as
> "subversion".
Well lets see, a law on the books in Florida stated that the the Secretary
of State SHALL certify the results by a certain date. The Florida Supreme
court issued an order stating that the Secretary of State SHALL NOT certify
by that date. I'd call that "subverting" the existing law, not
"interpreting" it.
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From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:34:14 -0000
>> So here it is the new year and no new Linux kernel yet. Goes to show
>> that Linux's due dates are no better than anyone elses.
>
>Who cares? When it is released, it will work, unlike MS who delays and
>delays, and eventually releases a buggy project because Marketing says
>it has too.
>
On the other hand if anyone is desparate to get the new kernel they can get
the
latest test release to use from www.kernel.org
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:49:52 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft deemed security threat to U.S.
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> C2 achieved when un-networked! once networked, ya might as well throw
> the dandy little certificate out the door.
what's the point of certifying an OS for security if you are certifying
it when it's unnetworked? It's damn near pointless.
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From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Linux
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:41:46 -0000
>idea. What a stroke of genius. Also, the whole idea of putting buttons on
>the bottom of the screen in a task bar may be original, provided they
didn't
>copy it from CDE.
The Acorn Archimedes had a task bar in 1987 so perhaps this is where they
stole this idea from?
>duplicate the Windows GUI of having a "Start" button complete with
cascading
>menus on the bottom left of the screen. So, non-Microsoft parties are
FVWM had a cascading application menu opened by clicking on the desktop so
the menu idea was not new, they only bolted an existing menu idea and an
existing
taskbar idea together - this can hardly be thought of as true innovation.
>sometimes guilty of copying MS ideas. The truly original idea for GUI's
was
>probably the Next. Not exactly user-friendly for first-time computer
users,
>but it at least it was 100% innovative.
>
NOT - the original GUI idea was invented at xerox parc and licensed&copied
by apple
with some new extras so apple legally copied it and MS then stole ideas from
both places.
>OK, I'm no MS advocate. But, I think I am at least objective. You may
>stone me now.
>
you may not be an advocate but like most MS supporters you are miss-led
about where most
of their ideas originated from.
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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:53:09 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft
at least you can say it won't crash like Windows does.The kernel will
actually work correctly. For some reason MS pushes back due dates but
yet the products never seem any better for it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> So here it is the new year and no new Linux kernel yet. Goes to show
> that Linux's due dates are no better than anyone elses.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:56:15 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux price?
Coconut Ming wrote:
>
> All Linux is free?
> Can anyone tell me... Linux redhat.. Mnadrake... Corel...
> All is free OS?
> All Linux clone except WinLinux is free?
> Please answer me. I am a newbie..... Yet decide to get a free Os :)
> thanks.
>
> from
> kokming
they are free if yuo download them or copy a CD from a friend, which is
legal (or get a CD of course in a magazine/book). If you buy a retail
package it by definition wont be free but you are mostly paying for the
documentation,support, and the packaging, as well as the service they
provide you of acquiring all the relevant packages a person would want
and making sure they all work in harmony. Or at least close to harmony.
Considering you get a lot more apps with Linux (even with the distros
that are only on 1 CD) compared to Windows and they are cheaper than
Windows I'd say it's a better deal. Also, in the case with Suse and I'm
sure there are others you get a nice manual to help you out which is
more than I can say for the manual that comes with Windows.
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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:56:44 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Happy New Year~
look at their website and find out. I'm sure they have some info on it
since it's their product.
"小糊涂虫·相忘于江湖～" wrote:
>
> When will RedHat release RedHat7.1?
>
> --
> [1;33m湖气冷如冰，月光淡于雪。
> 肯弃与三潭，杭人不看月。
>
> [m[1;36m※ 来源:□月印三潭BBS bbs.hutuworm.org□[FROM: 61.164.176.130][m
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From: spicerun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LCSDNYR 2001 -> standards, standards, standards
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 18:53:01 GMT
Happy New Year!
Just one question -- WHY must there only be one stifling standard that
guarantees that people only get to
have *ONE* and *ONE* choice only?
Personally, I like having the choices....perhaps several standards that
can coexist/cooperate with each other is the real key
to letting people have as many choices as they wish. If needed, a
standard that mandates how the standards comply with
each other could be written.
As far as *MINIMAL* standards, do you really want to repeat the Sun/MS
Java wars scenario with Linux standards this time?
Good luck in getting the application writers to adhere to the standards.
Atari and IBM tried this for years
without too much success.
JAR wrote:
> LCSDNYR = Linux Community of Software Developers New Years Resolution
> (for 2001 and beyond).
>
> The Linux Community of Developers should get together, formulate and
> agree on MINIMAL SET OF STANDARDS for Linux Software. The world
> revolves around standards -- like the modern calendar and temperature
> measurement. Standards are VERY important in every facet we deal with
> on a daily basis.
>
> This is a call to the Linux Community of Developers to standardize AT
> LEAST these portions of Linux software....
>
> 1. Installation of software
> 2. Removal of software
> 3. Upgrading of software
If you were talking about a single platform, then steps 1 to 3 are
easily done. However, if you're dealing with a multiple
platform entity like Linux, then I think you'll find one standard won't
be able to fit all platforms without lots
of contradictions.
>
> 4. Maintaining configuration files for installed software
Linux/Unix is already doing this.....Look in the /etc directory.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 14:02:37 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> mlw wrote:
>
> > The registry is a binary database which holds critical configuration and
> > operating system information. Errors in this database can render a
> > system inoperable, yet the only tools which can find and correct errors
> > in this database must be run from an operable system, and on a complete
> > and uncorrupted database.
>
> Erik has stated in other posts (did I get this right Erik?) that you can
> restore the registry from MSDOS. That is, you can boot form floppy, run
> regedit and restore the registry.
This is false. You can restore a Windows 9x registry, but Windows 9x is
just a DOS extender. NT, especially NT running NTFS, MSDOS does not see
the drive. There are third party applications that can read/write NTFS
from DOS, but if you do not previously have said program, it is hard. I
have never even seen a reference to an NT regedit running under DOS.
>
> > Anyone that does not see the fundamental problem with this system, does
> > not understand what makes a system maintainable.
>
> If what Erik said is true, then there's no problem.
Erik is wrong.
>
> > What is important is when the system is NOT working and you have to fix
> > it quickly. The registry is a disaster when there is a problem. Under
> > Linux, one can boot off a floppy, edit the text files as necessary to
> > remove offending drivers or settings, and boot a working system.
>
> See above.
ditto.
>
> > Here is an actual NT problem I have seen which proves my point:
> > I installed WinCE development kit on a version of NT, that had been
> > service packed. It called for RAS components to be installed. The
> > install program requested my original NT CD, which I put in, and it
> > installed the components. When I had to reboot (It is, after all,
> > Windows) it would blue screen before ever getting to the GUI.
>
> Did you backup the registry before you did this?
Should someone ALWAYS backup the system registry when they install a
program?
>
> If you didn't then what did you expect? If you don't backup /etc on Linux
> and make a drastic change, again, what did you expect?
>
> Did you try restore from last known good setup after this occured?
On NT?
>
> > There is no way to fix it from the system. I had to pull the hard disk
> > out and add it as a slave to a working NT system, delete the drivers
> > which had been crashing, and move the hard disk back to the original
> > system. I reinstalled the service pack.
>
> Did you try any of the above before you pulled the hard disk?
This is NT, it is quite different from 9x. There are not many options
for an NT system which does not boot.
>
> > Had this been a Linux system, I could have booted off a floppy,
> > commented out entries in the modules.conf file, or deleted the entry in
> > /etc/rc.d/rc?.d that started the service.
>
> If you have a Linux system on a floppy yes. If you don't and you don't have
> a Linux system handy, what then? If you're system won't boot, what are you
> to do?
Boot off the installation CD.
>
> > The registry is a bad idea, I have yet to see one reasonable argument
> > for it that can't be countered by a number of very good reasons against
> > it.
>
> Without backups any kind of recover is lost.
To restore from a backup, one has to have an operable system.
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
--
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: SwifT - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:49:11 +0100
On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Nigel Feltham wrote:
> On the other hand if anyone is desparate to get the new kernel they can get
> the latest test release to use from www.kernel.org
Good point.
--
SwifT
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 19:06:50 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis
> Tell us again how American medics were never shot by the Germans,
Japanese,
> North Koreans, Chinese, Viet Cong, nor North Vietnamese, because they
> are protected by a magic force field, or something...
A lie oft repeated does not become the truth, except in KuKu land.
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