Linux-Advocacy Digest #197, Volume #31 Tue, 2 Jan 01 18:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft deemed security threat to U.S. (mlw)
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Hatred? ("WMH")
Re: Strange passwd ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:20:02 -0500
"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/31/2000
> at 01:04 AM, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >First, on the S/370 I worked on in high school, then another IBM
> >mainframe that I used at Purdue, a 3rd one that I used at Ford, and a
> >4th one I used at Kmart.
>
> And in all of that time it never occured to you to RYFM?
To tell you the truth, I've never even SEEN an xedit manual.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:21:01 -0500
"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/31/2000
> at 01:09 AM, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >I need to Read the manual
>
> Clearly, since you obviously haven't got a clue as to what is done in
> the hardware and what in the software.
>
> >Clue for the fucking clueless: the non-existance of characters past
> >the last existant character on a line SHOULD BE THE DEFAULT.
>
> Clue for the willfully clueless: THE BLANK EXISTS.
Clue for the BRAINLESS: *I* didn't put the blank there.
In light of that...why does the goddamn blank exist?????
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft deemed security threat to U.S.
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:30:30 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Glitch wrote:
> > >
> > > kiwiunixman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > C2 achieved when un-networked! once networked, ya might as well throw
> > > > the dandy little certificate out the door.
> > >
> > > what's the point of certifying an OS for security if you are certifying
> > > it when it's unnetworked? It's damn near pointless.
> >
> > Microshaft still has faith in sneakernet.
>
> Carbon-based, bipedal packet transfers...How quaint.<g>
TCP/IP over Nike
>
> At least BSOD isn't an issue.
> (Assuming the medium chews thoroughly before swallowing and stays away from
> plastic bags.)
--
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:25:28 -0500
"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/31/2000
> at 01:14 AM, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >The problem is that if you move the cursor to the end of a line, and
> >start typing, you will notice that the little "X" symbol at the
> >bottom of the screen appears, indicating that the program is not
> >accepting your input
>
> The X indicates no such thing. It indicates that you are attempting to
> inset data into a field, and that there are no nulls after the
> insertion point. The X is not displayed by the software on the
> mainframe. If you're trying to type data over trailing nulls, then you
> should be turning Insert Mode on. If you're trying to extend a field,
> you can't; the 3270 architecture doesn't allow it.
>
> >It did in 1980-83 on the Oakland County Schools S/370,
> >in 1985 on a S/370 at Purude University, in 1997 at Ford Motor
> >Company, and 1999 at Kmart.
>
> Nope, you just jumped to conclusions at Oakland County Schools, Purude
> University, Ford Motor Company and Kmart.
Yes...with the Oakland County Schools machine, I "jumped to the conclusion"
that xedit would file those characters, and ONLY those characters which
I had entered into the editor. The assumption was contradicted by
experience...that whenever I used xedit to modify an existing file,
to append to the end of a line, the first step needed was to delete
invisible characters which I never typed in.
Now...tell me...precisely what kind of SHITHEAD makes this the default
behavior of an editor????
>
> Now, if you want to retract your belief in IBM's haedware quality and
> complain about the 3270 architecture, you may regain some of your lost
> credibility.
The OBSERVABLE behavior of xedit was the same at all four facilities...
thereby contradicting your claim that I was "assuming" anything.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "WMH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:31:40 -0500
"R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:92tf08$hjc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can understand why Linux users hate
> > Windows, it is something we are
> > too frequently forced to use even
> > though it, as an operating
> > environment, is terrible at best.
I think you have this backwards. It is more often linux users who espouse
disdain for a group of people based on something as ludicrous as what
computer operating system they use. I've accepted this as fact based on the
vast majority of people I talk to. Converse with just about any linux user,
and the subject will inevitably come to some form of MS bashing. Talk to a
windows user, and they'll usually confine the conversation to windows.
If linux does enter into the conversation, it is almost always in a positive
light.
> Microsoft asserts that if users don't pay Microsoft about 20-30 billion
> a year, that they will stop making software, all computers will become
> nothing more than boxes with blinking lights, and civilization will
> revert into the Stone Age.
I know of no such assertion. This sounds grandiose , contrived, and
paranoid.
Reality, look into it.
> When Microsoft decided to get into the Internet, it ignored all
> of the standards and guidlines and began introducing it's own
> proprietary protocols. Many of these "innovations" introduced
> severe security holes, enabled the proliferation of viruses ranging
> from benign Milissa type viruses to catastrophic "I Love You" viruses.
> Other "Stealth" viruses, including some that may have originated in
> Microsoft's labs, remain undetectable exept for the tell-tail dump
> of an encrypted file at strange hours in the morning. It could be
> your registry, your web browser "history", or maybe just your e-mail
> log.
The Microsoft browser is more compliant than the Netscape offering.
The viral threat is easily tharwted by a competent admin.
If you were to read as much pertinent information related to these topics as
you do man pages, you would know this.
> The Linux community watches their market go through quantum leaps
> in terms of quality, reliability, ease of configuration, ease of use,
> and innovation that Microsoft can only wish they could produce, only
> to be "locked out" of the market with "Windows Only, no alteration
> of boot sequence" contracts that prevent these innovations from
> ever seeing a mass market.
Linux is not ready for the consumer desktop. If it were, its acceptance
would
have grown of its own weight. It may yet grow to mass usage. --when it's
able to.
> > What I can't understand, is the bitter
> > hatred and resentment that some
> > of the Windows zealots have.
> This is actually a very acurate word. For many, Microsoft isn't
> a company, it's a religeon. Bill Gates is a god. They believe
> that if they pay enough tribute to Bill Gates, that his money
> will somehow magically flow back into their pockets.
Not only is the word not accurate, this is pure BS.
COLA propaganda only surpassed BY MS.
I can only conclude that you are trying to be amusing, or you
are delusional.
> > They have freedom of choice, they can use
> > their environment to their hearts content,
> > they can buy almost any software for it.
I do. I have a small network at home where I run three flavors of
windows, and two of Linux. What's the problem?
> Here in the U.S. we have fundamentalist christians who, even though
> protected by law and guaranteed the right to worship as they wish,
> seem compelled to impose their faith on others at any cost. They
> even invalidate other Christian religeons. In same cases, they will
> even resort to violence and economic oppression. But the Jews in
> Israel persecute Islamic residents.
Oh God. I'm not even going to ask.
> > Why spread FUD and criticize a different environment?
Same reasons linux zealots do would seem a reasonable explanation.
> True Microsoftians, followers of the Gospel According to Bill,
> must check in daily for the truth as proclaimed by Microsoft.
> They often have indirect economic interests, such as being
> Microsoft Partners, or having Microsoft as a major stockholder
> in their company (part of the price for the Enterprise License
> Agreement). They chat with the Apostles at MSDN. and true devotees
> will even spend their evenings watching MSNBC to see what they should
> be talking about INSTEAD of the Microsoft Antitrust case.
You think anyone monkeying with MSFT has time to spread FUD
in a news group like COLA? Take a reality pill, please!
I used the case you allude to for a thesis topic for Pete's sake.
Plus, I can't stand MSNBC. But I'm still thought of as one of your true
Microsoftians.
> Absolutely. Microsoft has a legitimate fear (that Linux driven
> innovation would leave them in the dust). They translate that fear
> into threats of the end of civilization as we know it unless
> Microsoft is left to practice it's religeon unfettered by
> regulation of any kind.
I see the paranoia runs vvvvvveeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy deep, huh?
> > They must be afraid of Linux.
>
> They fear the unknown. The only way anyone can truly know
> Linux would be to spend actual time learning about it and
> using a properly preconfigured system, usually for about 3 months.
> Since you can't go to the strore and test-drive
> a Linux system, you can't make an informed opinion.
You talk as if we're contemplating death, or the meaning of life.
My God man, we're talking about a computer!
I can't take anymore of this. It reads like the manifesto of a madman.
[snipped for sanity]
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Strange passwd
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:34:06 -0500
Martin wrote:
>
> I installed 2 Turbolinux at 2 separate machine A and B. I want to make
> some users who do not need a password when they are login.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> In Machine A, I tried as following:
>
> >passwd -d user123
> >passed -S user123
> Changing password for user user123
> Empty password.
>
> (and I can login this user without a password.)
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> In Machine B, I got something different as following:
>
> >passwd -d user123
> >passed -S user123
> Changing password for user user123
> No Password set.
>
> (and I CAN'T login with this user without a password.)
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Why this happened? The two machines are have same linux version and same
> config, and I tried to delete the problem user in machine B, and
> recreate again, but problem still exists.
> Thanks for any helps!
>
> Martin.
simple remove all characters from the password field of the /etc/passwd
(or /etc/shadow ) files for the usernames in question.
for mor info see
man passwd
man 5 passwd
man shadow
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:38:09 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Tue, 02 Jan 2001 03:31:55 -0500
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >"Colin R. Day" wrote:
> >>
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >>
> >> > > I'd like to see someone steal Microsoft source then give it
> >> > > back to them -- Fully debugged. ;)
> >> >
> >> > Why not make some cosmetic changes, and SELL the debugged product.
> >> >
> >> > What kind of case would Microsoft have
> >> >
> >> > "Oh loook, they stole our code and fixed all the damn bugs!
> >> > They must be stopped!"
> >> >
> >>
> >> Is this why you have said "DOS vedanya" to Microsoft OSes? :-)
> >>
> >
> >Actually, of all the OS's I've used, Microsoft is the "newbie"...
> >
> >So...my frustration with their low quality comes from over a DECADE
> >of using reliable systems before having been introduced to Microcrap.
>
> One could quibble here, admittedly.
>
> Unix: 1969 - 1970.
> v6 < 1980
> v7 1982?
> MIcrosoft: incorporated 1975?
> first DOS 1981?
> Windows 3.1 1985?
> Windows 95 1995
> Linux: 0.01 1991
> 1.0.9 1994
> 1.2.13 1995
> 2.0.0 1996
> 2.0.38 1997
> 2.2.0 1999
> 2.3.99-pre9 2000 (development)
I started computing in 1980. First experience with Unix in 1983.
Escaped dealing with Micro-shit until 1995.
>
> (the Linux timelines are kernels from ftp.kernel.org, and everything
> looks more or less accurate, date-stamp wise).
>
> So, technically, Linux is the newbie -- but the general organization of Unix,
> a highly successful and still-used operating system, has been around
> for 3 decades, and much of it was borrowed by Linux.
>
> Nothing wrong with that, if done right. :-)
>
> [.sigsnip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> up 93 days, 16:05, running Linux.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:41:06 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sun, 31 Dec 2000 02:08:00 -0500
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >>
> >> AN operating system is only as good as the programs that run on it.
> >
> >
> >wrong. An OS is only as good as it's kernel. New Programs can be
> >developed in parallel by anybody who has a copy of development tools.
> >But the kernel can only be improved by a rather limited group of
> >people.
>
> Except in the case of Linux; one can patch one's own kernel to one's
> heart's content, and submit the patches to Linus & cohorts.
> It's about as open as one can get. :-)
True... but for widescale distribution of your patch, it still
has to go through Linus or a close associate....
This is why the establishment of a good kernal is FAR more important
than anything else...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:43:21 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sun, 31 Dec 2000 00:40:08 -0500
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>
> >> Les Mikesell wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > news:vlb36.71054$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > Yes, standards would make this fascinating idea possible. Pity NONE
> >> > exist.
> >> > >
> >> > > This is why the Windows registry shines. It's truly uniform.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, uniformly obscure and difficult to manage.
> >> >
> >> > Les Mikesell
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> The Registry's only advantage over INI files is that it
> >> can more easily nest items deeper. Says nothing about
> >> how easy the items are to understand. And, of course, you
> >> have to buy a bunch of third-party Registry books, or scour
> >> Livingston's frikkin' columns, to find out the tricks that
> >> are need to work with Windows and its vaunted Registry.
> > ^^^^^^^^
> >
> >You misspelled "house of cards"
>
> Indeed. It's a truly bizarre design.
>
> While there might have been some advantage in centralizing everything
> into the hive from an API standpoint, Windows could just as easily
> have set up mechanisms whereby the .INI files were maintained by
> a similar, if not totally identical API. Or perhaps a "split .INI"
> design -- one .INI file for generally static settings, another for
> dynamic ones (e.g., Netscape and IE seem to like to remember the
> last geometric size for their windows; presumably, that's in the
> hive somewhere).
>
> One could even envision a "multiple/split .INI design", where
> config variables are read from multiple .INI files, somewhat a la
> X11's application init files which are read into Xrm (anyone
> even understand that anymore? I do :-) ) and which can handle
> internationalization in an elegant manner. Local user
> preferences could be stored in .applicationrc; system-wide
> preferences would be stored somewhere in /usr/X11R6/lib (I
> forget the exact pathnames, but O'Reilly will probably have 'em :-) ).
>
> Funny thing, though -- X11 was doing this way back in the R3 days,
> if not even earlier! And their design is far more straightforward,
> if one understands it. (I was using R3 in the late 1980's, on my Amiga.)
> Motif has transparent support -- in fact, anything based on
> Intrinsics (sadly, GTK isn't) support the application database.
>
> As usual, Microsoft has not only reinvented the wheel, but have
> "improved it" by increasing the number of sides thereon from
> 12 to 24 for a smoother ride.... :-)
>
> And yes, the X11 application database files understand comments.
>
> The only reason I can think of for even comtemplating Windows'
> registry (re-)design is because someone was worried about bit-counting,
> specifically the wasted space in the file system for each and every
> .INI file, prior to FAT32. A 4 GB partition had a cluster size of
> 64K! Presumably, the hive saves a few megabytes of disk space -- only
> to lose it again because of the relative memory footprints and the
> requirement that a backup be saved (which is nice -- when it works).
They should have just made a c:\windows\config directory...
But...Microsoft's incredibly poor filesystem architecture is ridiculously
wasteful of space when using small files....ESPECIALLY in the default
configuration of making the whole disk C: (another FUCKED UP way of
doing things brought to you by Microshaft).
>
> [.sigsnip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random bumpety-bump-klonk here
> up 93 days, 16:53, running Linux.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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