Linux-Advocacy Digest #207, Volume #31 Wed, 3 Jan 01 02:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Who LOVES Linux again? (J Sloan)
Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes (J Sloan)
Re: Microsoft is 20-years BEHIND other OS vendors (J Sloan)
Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? (J Sloan)
Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? (J Sloan)
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge ("JSPL")
Re: Uptimes (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows - Is It Really Easier to Use? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Who LOVES Linux again? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Global Configuration tool ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:22:45 -0600
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If there were any truth to it, then they wouldn't have to leverage
> their desktop presence to coerce NT sales, which was the root of the
> Netscape trial. If they are so much "smarter, more visionary, more
> creative, more tenacious, more action-focused, more ambitious and more
> successful" then why did (and do) they resort to sneaky back-end deals
> involving pre-loading and such?
Covering all their bases?
> Basically, why can't I get a Sony Vaio without Windows on it? Why do
> I have to pay for Word, when I'm not going to use it? Where is WMP
> for any other platform than Windows? Why are they "helping" vendors
> release WMP-only media? These actions do not point to a better
> product, but rather, a sneaky company who wants to "win" at all costs
> -- even to the point of buying shares in doomed competitors so they
> can have puppet "competition". This is not how a free market works,
> and it is not how capitalism works.
That's an entirely different issue. Sony sells only mass market systems and
only in specific configurations. This reduces their technical support
costs. Sony gets a better price on Word if they sell more copies. If they
would sell 60+% of the PC's with word anyways, it makes sense to make it
standard on all your systems to reduce your costs overall.
This issue is all about the OEM saving a few bucks, not MS forcing anyone
into anything.
> The answer is that Microsoft does *not* have the alleged attributes --
> they use non-techncial, shady deals to get their products sold. They
> bribed ISPs with free server software *if* they preloaded IE on their
> client disks (IEAK, yes I've used it), they bribe OEMs with reduced
> costs based on sales figures. They use BSA BS to scare OEMs into
> selling their products for them. They use 3rd parties to write their
> drivers for them, encouraging "windows-only" solutions.
It's a commodity market. You play by commodity rules. Volume is where it's
at.
You seem to think that a MS should not be allowed to give volume discounts,
something that is common in every market known to man.
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Who LOVES Linux again?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 06:18:51 GMT
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> Fine, whatever.
>
> It "can't".
>
> Next time a Linux machine locks up. I'll just remind it it can't lock up,
> and we'll all see if that fixes it.
That makes no sense - better to try the magic sys rq keys.
Or log in from another box and reset the console.
Network cards are cheap these days - $10 for a 10/100 ethernet.
Or hook up an old surplus terminal to a spare serial port so
you can log in and fix the console hang....
jjs
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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:27:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hackerbabe wrote:
snip
>
> Haters of the good [competing OSes and browsers] do not want the less
> able to be raised up to the level of the great producers (which is
> impossible); they want the great producers to be brought down. They
> want to use government coercion to cripple the greatest minds so that
> lesser minds will not feel inferior."
> --------
> Is there any truth to this accusation of envy, or are there other
> reasons people dislike Microsoft?
>
snip
I like to cripple great minds (I am feeling very inferior), but Bill Gates
is not in danger (he is not among them).
Ralph Miguel Hansen
Auf der Donau 29
45139 Essen
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.linux.sucks,alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 06:21:31 GMT
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> I don't care if it's developed on a sheet of paper.
>
> I just want it to work, look good, and be simple to operate.
>
> Linux programs seem to be developed on UNIX, maintain their UNIX looks, and
> never go past "it works, but it looks terrible" phase.
Like what programs?
netscape?
quake 3 arena?
grip, gnapster, easytag?
word perfect?
mathematica?
Have you ever seen Linux running?
jjs
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Microsoft is 20-years BEHIND other OS vendors
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 06:25:56 GMT
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> Windows lacks things. Linux lacks things. And which lacks in more
> (desktop) functionality? LINUX.
Actually you are confused. You're probably thinking of apps.
Windows has a huge head start in apps, 'tis true.
But the cat is out of the bag, and a wave Linux apps is beginning.
However the look and feel of the desktop metaphor is one
area where we must admit that windows is rather lame
in comparison to modern Unix GUIs.
jjs
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 06:26:47 GMT
LOL!
Thanks for the laugh -
jjs
hackerbabe wrote:
> A quote from http://microsoft.aynrand.org/hate.html, referring to why
> Microsoft has been persecuted in the anti-trust trial:
>
> "There is only one fundamental reason why great businessmen [like Bill
> Gates] or great companies [like Microsoft] are hated, and it has
> nothing to do with so-called monopolies. [Microsoft is] hated . . .
> because [it is] good, that is, smarter, more visionary, more creative,
> more tenacious, more action-focused, more ambitious, and more
> successful than everyone else.
>
> Haters of the good [competing OSes and browsers] do not want the less
> able to be raised up to the level of the great producers (which is
> impossible); they want the great producers to be brought down. They
> want to use government coercion to cripple the greatest minds so that
> lesser minds will not feel inferior."
> --------
> Is there any truth to this accusation of envy, or are there other
> reasons people dislike Microsoft?
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 06:27:39 GMT
Hehe -
anyone who has suffered under microsoft's thuggish arm twisting
will certainly get a good laugh out of this...
jjs
hackerbabe wrote:
> A quote from http://microsoft.aynrand.org/hate.html, referring to why
> Microsoft has been persecuted in the anti-trust trial:
>
> "There is only one fundamental reason why great businessmen [like Bill
> Gates] or great companies [like Microsoft] are hated, and it has
> nothing to do with so-called monopolies. [Microsoft is] hated . . .
> because [it is] good, that is, smarter, more visionary, more creative,
> more tenacious, more action-focused, more ambitious, and more
> successful than everyone else.
>
> Haters of the good [competing OSes and browsers] do not want the less
> able to be raised up to the level of the great producers (which is
> impossible); they want the great producers to be brought down. They
> want to use government coercion to cripple the greatest minds so that
> lesser minds will not feel inferior."
> --------
> Is there any truth to this accusation of envy, or are there other
> reasons people dislike Microsoft?
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: "JSPL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 01:28:15 -0500
Reply-To: "JSPL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> JSPL wrote:
>
> > That depends on your point of view. One could argue thats it's a very
bad
> > ratio. If it was more user friendly there would be a need for such a
high
> > ratio, especially since the OS exists on only .3% of the worlds
computers.
>
> I hate to bust your bubble, but last I heard, close to 40% of the
> servers on the internet are running Linux, up from 32% last year
> and 23% the year before...
I don't have anything against Linux/Apache as a web server. I manage
websites hosted on those types of servers and have had absolutely no
problems (ever, I think). I know that there are more sites hosted with
Apache. I do think trying to adapt Linux as a desktop operating system for
the masses is not working, and will never work. All this talk about taking
over and becoming more popular than Windows will never happen and lying
about market share won't make it so. It hasn't worked for Apple and it sure
as hell won't work for Linux.
Linux as a desktop OS has a slow, click & wait, buggy, clunky, amateurish,
Windows 3.x'ish, unappealing GUI.
And:
Trying to blame a companies incredible success on some sort of monopolistic
conspiracy doesn't help the Linux cause much either.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 06:31:15 GMT
Said Chad C. Mulligan in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 03 Jan 2001
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[...]
>> >Yeah you would since you were afraid to discuss your past problems, afraid
>> >that they might be soluable.
>>
>> And as a troll you will feel free to repeat this lie ad infinitum, as
>> "proof" of itself, because I am not at all interested in, yet again,
>> watching Microsoft apologists go into a tizzy of blame-casting in leu of
>> troubleshooting. I happen to be a much better troubleshooter than you
>> presume, and have no need for random opinions from people who can't tell
>> the difference between monopoly crapware and reliable computer systems.
>
>I guess you don't bother solving problems for your customers, you just blame
>your incompetence on your tools.
Indeed, I make my living solving problems for my customers, and never
ever blame them for their problems, particularly when their problems are
caused by monopoly crapware. No, I don't expect that the random opinion
of some troll on Usenet is worth even the time to read it, let alone to
engage in any chicken-waving in an attempt to blaim-cast.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:30:00 -0500
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 31 Dec 2000
> >billh wrote:
> >>
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >>
> >> > So says the man who claims that medics never get shot because they're
> >> > protected by a magic force field....or something.
> >>
> >> Same force that made you a combat vet inside the Iraqi borders. LOL!!!
> >
> >See bill admit that he's a liar.
>
> I believe he was pointing out that you are a liar.
He makes that *accusation* only by *admitting* that he himself is one.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
>
> Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
> http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:31:34 -0500
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 03:45:32 GMT, Chad Myers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Max, open your eyes, seriously. The FL Supreme Court overstepped
> >it's bounds TWICE and became activists and started writing laws on
> >the fly. This was proven TWICE in the U.S. Supreme Court.
>
> I'm not Max, but I have to ask...
>
> So why are you harping on the Democrats? They just brought the suit, as
> anybody with standing can do. They didn't make the ruling. Seems to me
> you ought to be dissing the court and calling for their impeachment
> rather than complaining about the Democrats. According to you, it was
> the court that subverted the law, not the Democrats, unless you want to
> say that merely asking the court to make a ruling is "subversion".
If they thought there was any hanky-panky, they would have sued
for recounts in REPUBLICAN-controlled counties.
Suing Democrat-run election boards is tantamount to accusing
your own people of being traitors..... or... an admission that
you intend to have your own people "cook" the ballots.
>
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:32:13 -0500
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:37:16 -0500, JSPL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 01:28:58 GMT, Chad Myers
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> >> No, you claimed that the Democrats were trying to "subvert the rule of
> >> >> law."
> >> >
> >> >Which they were. You didn't even answer the claims, instead stooping to
> >> >name calling.
>
> >> Maybe I missed a civics lesson someplace where they defined lawsuits as
> >> "subversion".
> >
> >Well lets see, a law on the books in Florida stated that the the Secretary
> >of State SHALL certify the results by a certain date. The Florida Supreme
> >court issued an order stating that the Secretary of State SHALL NOT certify
> >by that date. I'd call that "subverting" the existing law, not
> >"interpreting" it.
>
> I disagree, but for the purposes of this post lets say you're right.
> Wouldn't it then be the Florida Supreme Court subverting the law rather
> than the Democrats? Shouldn't you be up in arms about their actions
> rather than those of the Democratic Party, who merely brought the suit
> but did not make the ruling?
The fix was in. That's how the Democrats operate.
Anybody who believes otherwise is naive.
>
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows - Is It Really Easier to Use?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:32:59 -0500
the_blur wrote:
>
> > Wrong. You've never taken a single programming course, have you?
>
> Of course not you TOOL. I never will either as long as I can help it.
This is why you fail.
>
> > Yes..it's true...you really have no clue about how programming works.
>
> Yeah it is.
Why don't you liberate your mind and take a programming course or two.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:45:55 -0600
NT has always had tab completion, it's just not turned on by default.
http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/voelker/ntemacs/mail/1.30.97-7.30.97/1601
.html
As usual, you Linux advocates don't know what you're talking about when it
comes to what you criticize.
"glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I read in my newest Maximum PC magazine that Whistler will actually have
> the TAB completion function for the console that Linux has had for who
> knows how many years.
>
> What INNOVATION!!
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Who LOVES Linux again?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:37:09 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> Fine, whatever.
>
> It "can't".
>
> Next time a Linux machine locks up. I'll just remind it it can't lock up,
> and we'll all see if that fixes it.
Next time a Linux machine "locks up", why don't you make a videotape
of the it, and make an MPEG so that we can see this "non-responsive"
machine that's supposedly so badly fucked that the kernel won't even
task-switch to the virtual console manager which can provide you with
a whole bunch of WORKING virtual login ttys.
>
> After all, your logic dictates that a 32bit enviroment controlling the
> interupts FOR the BIOS can't lock itself out, and loose control of those
> signals too.
It has nothing to do with 8-bit vs 16-bit vs 32-bit vs 64-bit.
Unix/Linux kernels are practically impervious to lock-ups due to
the way they are DESIGNED.
Is ANY of this fucking getting through to your shit-infested brain?????
>
> So, it "should" not lock up, ever.
That is correct.
When Linux has a problem it will "PANIC", you fucking moron.
That is how we know that you're a goddamned lying piece of shit.
>
> But then, Linux "should" be able to replace Windows on the desktop. Oh
> well, not all "shoulda, coulda, woulda" statements are true.
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> > >
> > > Those key's only put out to a TTY console. I was running XFree86 (and
> > > actively using it) when the keyboard stopped responding.
> >
> > Liar. The TTY input is INTERRUPT DRIVEN. Therefore, it can't lock up.
> >
> > Repeat after me, Kyle
> >
> > LINUX IS NOT WINDOWS!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The sys rq keys could very well have been working, however attempting to
> > > switch from an XFree86 VR terminal to a TTY was not working.
> > >
> > > Sounds like a locked system to me.
> > >
> > > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >
> > > > > > Alt-Fn to a new console screen, you idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > You CAN'T. The whole computer is locked SOLID. The keyboard is not
> > > > > responding, nor is the mouse, or any other human interface device
> > > attached
> > > > > to the computer.
> > > >
> > > > serial port, network interface?
> > > >
> > > > > It's called a "freeze", and you Linux nuts don't want to admit they
> > > exist
> > > > > under Linux.
> > > >
> > > > I'm skeptical - people from a windows background such as
> > > > yourself assume the system is locked up, but in fact it probably
> > > > isn't - what hapened when you tried the magic sys rq keys?
> > > >
> > > > jjs
> > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> >
> > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > you are lazy, stupid people"
> >
> > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> >
> > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> >
> > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> >
> > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > direction that she doesn't like.
> >
> > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (C) above.
> >
> > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > her behavior improves.
> >
> > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> >
> > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.linux.sucks,alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:38:19 -0500
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:51:11 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Flat head, is more like it.
> >
> > I'm not the one who has to pound one's head against the wall in
> > frustration begging manufacturers to support Linux.
>
> Maybe you should learn to write a driver for your favorite device(s).
> Contribute instead of complaining.
That would take intelligence.
Something squashedfish-- doesn't have.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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