Linux-Advocacy Digest #209, Volume #31 Wed, 3 Jan 01 03:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Uptimes (J Sloan)
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What's in a name? (Andres Soolo)
Re: Why Hatred? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Hatred? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Hatred? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux vs Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Need help with NT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux, it is great. (J Sloan)
Re: Need help with NT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (T. Max Devlin)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:54:05 -0500
Gary Hallock wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Still sucks rocks compared to vi and emacs.
>
> My first impression of vi was after using xedit for many years.
Ditto here.
> I thought vi sucked.
This is why you fail...
Can't recognize superior technology.
> Talk
> about bad defaults! The arrow keys didn't work. You had to use j, k, etc to move
>around. It
Keeping your hands on the keyboard is a bad thing now?
> came up in command mode. I want to edit the file. Why must I type Esc-I to edit?
>Half the
you don't..you just type 'i' or 'I' or 'a' or 'A' or 'o' or 'O'
how horrible...6 seperate options.
> time I
> couldn't get it to insert characters properly.
Evidently, millions of users have more intelligence than you.
> The other half it would insert but not allow me
> to delete or overlay characters. Note that this
> was vi, not vim. And the fact that it had no Rexx macro support.
awwwwwwwwww pooor baby.
Clue, the world does NOT revolve around REXX.
> No ALL command.
Yes, there is.
:s/bad pattern/new text/g
/g indicates GLOBAL REPLACEMENT
> For a
> while, I got so frustrated that I just ended up uploading the file I wanted to edit
>to CMS,
> using xedit, and then downloading the file.
>
> You have only provided one reason for hating xedit - a default which you think is
>wrong, but
Indicative of the lack of planning and foresight by the people who write and maintain
it.
> which has been explained to you is a result of the
> limitation of the 3270 hardware. Yet you used xedit all that time, hating every
>moment, and
> never bothered to crack the manual or ask someone. I would agree that the 3270 has
>problems.
> That has been the general consensus within IBM for years. But that is the
>hardware, not
> xedit. By the way, I tried running xedit without my profile (to get the default
>behavior) and
> could not reproduce the problem. Insert worked perfectly. This may be because I
>no longer
> have access to a real 3270 so I use x3270 from AIX.
>
> Gary
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:00:15 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
> Then I would say that both you and they are incompotent NT administrators.
I'm a Unix admin, I thought I made that clear -
The windows reboots are handled by others.
jjs
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:55:12 -0500
Gary Hallock wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> >
> > Clue for the BRAINLESS: *I* didn't put the blank there.
> >
> > In light of that...why does the goddamn blank exist?????
> >
>
> Why don't you read the 3270 manual and then get back to us on xedit:
Why should I need a MANUAL to use a damn terminal????
Again.....the very notion that one should need a manual for a terminal
is indicative of the sorry level of programming standards at IBM.
>
>
>http://www.s390.ibm.com:80/bookmgr-cgi/bookmgr.cmd/BOOKS/CN7P4000/CCONTENTS?SHELF=EZ2HW120
>
> Gary
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's in a name?
Date: 3 Jan 2001 07:04:09 GMT
Adam Ruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, silly you. The kernel is called Linux, the rest is called GNU. The
> kernel is named after Linus.
Though you're making a rare mistake here, it needs correcting ...
Not all the rest is called GNU. The X Window System, for example, is
not a part of GNU.
--
Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Noncombatant:
A dead Quaker.
-- Ambrose Bierce
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:56:12 -0500
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> "Form@C" wrote:
>
> > All very true. The problem is that the Windows approach has become a
> > standard (of sorts) by sheer weight of numbers, in spite of being a closed-
> > source system.
>
> Very well put. Microsoft had been a standard for many years, esp. 1994
it's a "de facto" standard, as opposed to a REAL standard.
> and before, because it was the only operating system on the table for
> the Intel platform. The exception may have been Xenix, but hell, who
> wanted to run Xenix? Anyways, I remember the days when MS Windows was
> the only OS out there. Just as a data point, I'm talking about my
> experiences in 1993. It was simply horrid. But, Win didn't HAVE to be
> good, because it was the only OS out there for the PC, and MS was taking
> advantage of the whole PC explosion. As long as sales were good, MS had
> no reason to improve the reliability of their OS. Also, I, as many
> other computer users must have thought, assumed that when Windows (3.1)
> crashed, it wasn't because the OS was bad. I assumed it was something I
> was doing wrong, had something configured wrong, or maybe there was
> something wrong with my computer.
>
> When Linux came upon the scene and started eating into MS's sales, MS
> saw that users were getting smarter, and that people were realizing that
> yes, maybe Windows IS unreliable. So, I suppose a big issue was
> improving the reliability come the next release of Doze, which at the
> time was Win 95. Of course, there's only so much you can do to improve
> the reliability of an OS that is based on DOS.
>
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:57:54 -0500
"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>
> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : You misinterpret what I said. I said as long as Linux *MUST* be maintained
> : through text files. In other words, even with tools like linuxconf, you
> : still need to maintain quite a bit through text files exclusively.
>
> : There's nothing wrong with text configuration files, as long as there are
> : easier ways to maintain it as well.
>
> There will be.
>
> Most config files tend to be hierarchical in nature.
Most???
Really???
Less than 5% of config files I've seen are "heirarchical [sic] in nature"
> XML is a very
> effective format for representing such information in a form that is
> both human-readable and very efficiently parsed. Over time, XML DTDs
> should appear that are specifically targeted at configuration
> information, and which can represent not only the data itself, but
> metadata (including documentation) as well.
>
> Once commonly agreed DTDs (or schemas) have been adopted as a de facto
> standard, it will become trivial to write GUI tools that can edit any
> arbitrary XML-based config file.
>
> My guess is that we will see much more use of these tools as time goes
> on, and again I expect to see this in both the 'Doze/.NET and *n*x
> worlds since there is nothing even remotely OS-specific about the
> storage or parsing of such files.
>
> Joe
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:02:07 -0500
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> mlw wrote:
>
> > I can understand why Linux users hate Windows, it is something we are
> > too frequently forced to use even though it, as an operating
> > environment, is terrible at best.
> No, it would mean that they would actually need to read a book once in
> their miserable lives (you know what they are, normally made out of
> paper, have words in them, carefully placed to make it meaningful).
That's it entirely. LoseDOS-lovers are under the delusion that
a computer is merely a different kind of TV.
This is why they NEVER know what the fuck the error message is when
something goes wrong...because, just like a TV viewer, they just
WATCH it, rather than reading the text presented on the screen.
>
> >
> > What I can't understand, is the bitter hatred and resentment that some
> > of the Windows zealots have. They have freedom of choice, they can use
> > their environment to their hearts content, they can buy almost any
> > software for it. Why spread FUD and criticize a different environment?
> Because the ones who does spread FUD can only program in Visual Basic
> (whip-de-doo!). The ones who tend to be more open are those who
> programme using using cross platform languages such as C, who can see
> the beauty in the open source programming model, hence, they are not
> adversely effected by the change in the OS landscape. Also, what it
> would mean is that closed-sourced, profit motivated software packages
> will have to compete harder (in terms of quality of product and support
> infrastructure) as free open source will software becomes more mainstream.
>
> >
> > The only reason I can come up with is fear. They must be afraid of
> > Linux. The only reason they would have to be afraid is because Linux is
> > better than Windows. They have to know this, else they would not be
> > afraid.
> They're afraid of change, from getting outside their comfort zone or
> requiring them to use that space between their ears (known as a brain)
> for once in there miserable existence.
>
> kiwiunixman
>
> --
> "Like a midget at a urinal, you gotta keep on your toes"
> Naked Gun 33 1/3
>
> "Like a blind man at an orgy, you gotta feel your way out"
> Naked Gun 33 1/3
> ____
>
> Unix Programmer:
>
> "If it an't broken, don't fix it"
>
> Microsoft Programmer:
>
> "If it an't broken and working perfectly, then there must be a problem"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:07:32 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Honestly, have any of you really fairly tested Windows 2000
Why would I do that?
> with service pack 1?
What's with the service pack?
you loseDOS morons were telling us 6-months ago that it was perfect.
What's up with that?
> How about Windows 2000 DataCenter?
As if I really have an interest on blowing a bunch of $$$$$ on useless
Microshaft garbage.
> It seems no one here would
> even give W2k the time of day (or money) to really try it out to
> determine how true these statements are.
Microsoft has a 25-year track record of selling shit and claiming
that it's perfume. Why should I, or anybody else, trust them?
>
> If so, specifically what was unstable? And don't say "Well on home built
> computer with hardware from
> the 70's..."
How about...not even programmed as well as home-built systems from the 1970's.
>
> My RedHat 7.0 is far, far from ideal....
Anything x.0 is far, far from ideal, you fool
>
> Perry Pip wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:49:11 +0100,
> > SwifT - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Nigel Feltham wrote:
> > >
> > >> On the other hand if anyone is desparate to get the new kernel they can get
> > >> the latest test release to use from www.kernel.org
> > >
> > >Good point.
> > >
> >
> > And even in a beta state, it's more stable than any MS OS.
> >
> > Perry
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with NT
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:08:34 -0500
"John G. Sandell" wrote:
>
> Problem with friend's NT system at work -
>
> I read this newsgroup in my spare time -
>
> Seems as though there are a lot of Windows experts participating -
>
> I hope one or more of tem can help -
>
> NT Workstation 4.0 runnning on print server /proxy server -
>
> Several other PCs with W98 and ME -
>
> Friday the NT workstation computer went down - apparently a power supply
> turning bad fried some components -
>
> Moved hard drive to a new AMD Duron 700 Mhz box, tried to use the R
> option from the NT CD, it ran but didn't fix anything.
>
> Did an install - that worked, but shortly after boot, there's a message
> that a service failed, see EventViewer.
>
> Event Viewer says Service Message Control hung, the next message says
> Service Message Control failed.
>
> Loaded NT SP4 OK.
>
> Loaded Norton Utilities OK
>
> Re-loaded WinProxy but it can't find the ISP connection (DSL).
>
> I suspect the network card that connects to the DLS modem is bad - I had
> to replace the NIC that connects to the office network, and the NIC that
> connects to DSL might have got fried, too.
>
> Got it mostly working, had to re-enter the user accounts, but can't get
> at shared drives or the shared network printer; on the other PCs a x
> pops up asking for a password, but no matter what I do with User
> Accounts or passwords, keep getting told it's an invalud password....
>
> Any suggestions?
Buy RedHat 7.2 and install it.
Problem solved.
>
> TIA
>
> John Sandell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux, it is great.
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:14:22 GMT
Todd wrote:
> Funny thing is, even when Window is so much more expensive and supposedly
> far inferior, it still seems to be the dominant choice by users like myself
> and others.
Most people are creatures of habit, and don't like learning
new technology. Also, they hear microsoft, microsoft and
more microsoft in advertisements in every type of media,
and that does have an effect on Joe 6 pack.
> I personally run Linux 7.0 and Windows 2000, and could never give up 2000.
> I don't actually *use* Linux because I haven't found a need for it beyond
> what 2000 can do a lot easier...
Spoken as required by a microsoft employee - LOL!
But I am not at all impressed by windows 2000. It does
nothing for me that cannot be done a lot more conformably
with Linux.
> I will say that RedHat Linux has come a long way with its installation -
> impressive. Although, it is still not as easy as Windows 98/2000.
I beg to differ - I find most modern Linux distros far less
frustrating to install than windows in any form.
> Another point... the *initial* cost of Linux is becoming a more and more
> expensive. RedHat 7.0 set me back about US$50.
You could have gotten it for about $5 from cheapbytes -
> And there are more
> expensive versions.
and there are cheaper official versions as well.
> Thankfully - the licensing is still good in terms of
> pricing... I will never be a convert of open source simply because I think a
> lot of the work is of low quality. As a system architect and programmer, I
> would never want to give away source code. I know a lot of professional
> programmers who feel the same.
Of course they feel threatened - who wouldn't?
The internet is built on open source technology, and
the days of software barons who can rest on their laurels
are drawing to an inevitable conclusion.
> Anyway, given the cost of Linux, it is an impressive system. However, I
> still feel that Windows 2000 is a technically superior product ( I work with
> many 2000 boxes everyday ).
I commend you on having the correct attitude for a microsoft employee
But I must confess, you certainly couldn't tell anything of this
supposed "superiority" in terms of performance or reliability.
What is superior then? It's ability to run microsoft office apps?
I suppose that must be what you mean...
jjs
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with NT
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:09:21 -0500
Glitch wrote:
>
> >
> > I suspect the network card that connects to the DLS modem is bad - I had
> > to replace the NIC that connects to the office network, and the NIC that
> > connects to DSL might have got fried, too.
> >
> > Got it mostly working, had to re-enter the user accounts, but can't get
> > at shared drives or the shared network printer; on the other PCs a x
> > pops up asking for a password, but no matter what I do with User
> > Accounts or passwords, keep getting told it's an invalud password....
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
>
> try an NT newsgroup
No...I think he means....Which version of Linux will get my ass out
of the sling?
Try RedHat 6.2. http://www.cheapbytes.com/ probably has some around.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:16:28 GMT
Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 03 Jan 2001 05:49:06
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[...]
>> Without the filter of partisan posturing which you seem to have, it
>> seems that the FL Supreme Court "understepped" its bounds, and this, in
>> fact, is what the US Supreme Court pointed out. But your eagerness to
>> say that the US Supreme Court "proved" it makes clear that you wouldn't
>> be able to think straight about the matter to begin with, so even if I'm
>> wrong, I doubt sincerely that you could ever even begin to approach
>> convincing me of that.
>
>What the hell are you talking about? Even in the face of overwhelming
>evidence, you still babble.
WHAT "overwhelming evidence"? Guffaw.
>Do you even listen to yourself?
A surprising question coming from you.
>The FL Supreme
>Court was an example of liberal gerry-mandering in the process of elections.
And what diety-on-high proclaimed this to you? Rush Limbaugh?
>Their decisions were purely partisan in nature and had no basis on the
>facts.
Yes, it always supports your case to insist that Supreme Court judges
are "purely partisan" and have "no basis on the facts". Heaven forbid,
you should wish to discuss an issue reasonably.
>In fact, in their first vacation of the FL Supreme Court, the U.S.
>Supreme Court asked the FL SC to cite just ONE law on which they based
>their decision. A request that the FL SC has yet to comply with.
No, Supreme Court decisions do not contain phrases like that. In fact,
what the US Supreme Court said, and all they said, was that they were
unaware of the judicial reasoning which lead to the FL Supreme Court's
decision. A request they complied with several days later.
Unfortunately, they were days the country could not afford, owing to the
"rule of law" you Republicans love to misappropriate.
><more pointless Max drivel clipped as he has obviously lost grip on
>reality>
Oh, yes, I'm sure that's happened.
--
T. Max Devlin
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