Linux-Advocacy Digest #209, Volume #35           Wed, 13 Jun 01 23:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux          (Rotten168)
  Re: I propose a GPL change... (Mark)
  Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux    (Rotten168)
  Re: Laugh, it's hilarious. (Mark)
  Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!! (Mark)
  Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!! (Mark)
  Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and   (Rotten168)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (was: chaney: retard) (Frog2)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (was: chaney: retard) (Frog2)
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (The Ghost In The Machine)
  Re: OT:  Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and   (Rotten168)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (was: chaney: retard) (Frog2)
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (Mark)
  Re: Redhat video problems. (Mark)
  Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and   (Rotten168)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)")
  Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and  (Rotten168)

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From: Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux         
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:47:09 GMT

Edward Roster wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > drsquare wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:04:25 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >>  (Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > Without the USA, mother Russia would have gobbled up most all of
> >> >> > Europe long ago.
> >> >>
> >> >> Without mother Russia, the Nazia would have gobbled up the "land of
> >> >> the free" long ago.
> >> >
> >> >I must have missed that novel piece of history.
> >>
> >> Americans do have a habit of being ignorant of historical facts.
> >
> > Care to share your version?
> 
> Well, you seem to be pretty ignorant.

I just want to what he was disputing in the original poster's version.

Again, please point out what I'm being ignorant about, I'd really like
to know.

Or is asking someone to explain their statement ignorance? I forget how
readily you Europeans like to believe anything at all that you're told
so maybe that is ignorance.

-- 
- Brent

"General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
- Darth Vader

http://rotten168.home.att.net

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Subject: Re: I propose a GPL change...
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:39:13 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <JWST6.9078$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>"Rob S. Wolfram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >You cannot patent code, you can only patent algorithms.
>> >
>> >There is much GPL'd and free software that violates patents as well, for
>> >instance vorbis ogg is claimed to still violate the mp3 patents.
>>
>> Or so the spokesman for the patent holders says. The ogg people claim
>> differently, as does the FSF. I believe the latter, because I haven't
>> seen a lawsuit from the patent holder yet.
>
>Which is exactly my point (which you snipped).  The typical response, even
>by free software, is to ignore claims of patent infringement until a lawsuit
>is brought.
>
>
Which was responded to already - that is precisely the correct procedure to 
follow.


-- 
Mark Kent

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From: Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux   
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:50:34 GMT

drsquare wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:54:29 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ("Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> >"Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:RevV6.44439$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> >> > I was talking about significant in space exploration terms.
> >> >
> >> Viking,  Pioneer,  Voyager,   International Space Station,  and all the
> >> other probes, nothing significant,  your must be right.... (sarcasm)
> >
> >Not to mention all the work on Mars. How many non-US probes have been
> >sent to Mars?
> 
> How many non-US countries are stupid enough to waste all that money
> for no obvious gain?

You're just jealous 'cause you're country was considered a model
conquered territory (I think the official term was "model
protectorate")by the Nazi government. 

Jeasous Jealous Jealous Jealous.

> >> The US switched from very expansive maned space program to an unmaned
> >> program,  which was cheaper. Also the budget for NASA has been cut and cut
> >> and cut over the years,  so they have to make due on alot less money.   Even
> >> though the technology that has come out of the space program,  could have
> >> paid for it 10 fold.
> >> If it was so easy to send men into space,  why has anyone but USSR (Russia)
> >> and the USA sent men into space?
> >
> >I can hear it now... "They could, they just don't want to," right =)
> 
> Why would they want to?

Because we can realize that there are some things more important than
materiel gain.

-- 
- Brent

"General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
- Darth Vader

http://rotten168.home.att.net

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Crossposted-To: alt.aol-sucks,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Laugh, it's hilarious.
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:40:37 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, flatfish+++ wrote:
>On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:06:55 +0200, "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>http://www.jokeaday.com/7letters.shtml
>>
>>It's on a mailing list I'm subscribe to.
>>The post-master sent an email about AOL.EXE being a virus, and urge people
>>to delete it, and post some of the replies in the above URL.
>>
>>Here are a couple of the most amusing replies:
>>
>>"I beleive that this is a hoax. Isn't AOL.exe a vital component to the
>>window's operating system? "
>>
>>"No!! Any file ending in .EXE is a necessary file to your computer. Wherever
>>you got that information they're wrong. You need that file. I have learned
>>this the wrong way. Don't delete any file ending in .EXE Please pass this on
>>to everybody."
>>
>
>
>And the Linvocates expect these people to edit config files and run
>Linux?

No, they buy preinstalled of course, just like they do now.


-- 
Mark Kent

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Subject: Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:45:04 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <9fopl8$58jlv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nigel Feltham wrote:
>drsquare wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:24:42 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>>  (Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>> 
>>>>>Sadly no, not because there is no Fosters, or because I can't
>>>>>afford any Fosters .... I just don't like beer.
>>>> 
>>>> What's there not to like about beer?
>>>> 
>>>
>>>I like beer but for some strange reason I get a bad headache and feel sick
>>>after just 1 pint so I only drink spirits - I can drink at least 10
>>>vodka&cokes in one evening with no problems.
>> 
>> You're probably just gay or something.
>> 
>
>I think it's more to do with the quality of lager in pubs around here - I 

Drink bitter.  Lager is not beer!  Amongst other things, it is flashed
cooled to a temperature where your taste-buds are no longer effective
(deliberately, because it tastes very bad), it is pasteurised, thus
removing much of the flavour it might have had, and it is carbonated,
thus making it unpleasant to drink, causing the stomach to bloat, and
giving a 'full' feeling.

Real bitter (not the 'smoothflow/creamflow rubbish, which is like
lager only nitrogen injected rather than carbon dioxide - same as
guiness, btw), that is.

Lager is the Microsoft of the beer world.  Over hyped, over sold, 
cheap to make, presented as a 'high quality product' to an unsuspecting
marketplace. 

>can drink the stuff in cans ok and don't get the same problem with most 
>bitter type beers either - I prefer spirits though, I tend to change what I 
>drink regularly, I am on vodka and coke now but have also had nights of 
>only drinking jack daniels, napoleon brandy, malt whisky or bottles or 
>vodka or schapps based mixer drinks. 
>
>Life gets too boring if you drink the same thing all the time - same with 
>computers, why stick with one system - as well as windows & linux I also 
>use emulators for MacOS, Sinclair spectrum, BBC Micro, Amiga, N64, Sega 
>Megadrive / Genesis and several other computers, consoles & arcade machines.
>
>
>


-- 
Mark Kent

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Subject: Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:45:46 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, flatfish+++ wrote:
>On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:08:42 -0400, Nigel Feltham
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Problem is that they (the pubs) are not cleaning the taps properly and
>that is what leads to the bitter/sour taste of tap beer.
>
>

Lager pipes don't generally get flushed anyway.

-- 
Mark Kent

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From: Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and  
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:53:36 GMT

"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> 
> > > Hey, don't destroy his fantasy that the universe revolves around
> > > America.
> >
> > Well now,... lets see what happens to the world economy if the stock
> > exchanges went belly up.  Think your country is immune??
> >
> 
> When the US economy was rapidly slowing down, New Zealand was expanding at
> 3.5-3.7%, fueled by the low dollar and increased dairy output.  The US needs
> an export backed recovery, throw the dollar down to say, 50US Cents to one
> New Zealand Dollar, thus making it more competitive, imports cost more thus
> protect local industry ligitimately, and the trade deficit comes down.
> 
> As for the stock exchange, the New Zealand has learnt from the 87 crash, but
> apparently, the US hasn't.
> 
> Matthew Gardiner

What is unemployment in New Zealand?

-- 
- Brent

"General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
- Darth Vader

http://rotten168.home.att.net

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From: Frog2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 Jun 2001 02:50:47 -0000
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (was: chaney: retard)
Crossposted-To: alt.bonehead.steve-chaney,soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

steve chaney, innumerate peecee puppetboy, eeped:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:11:32 -0400, "S.T. Pickrell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >I just wanted to see that again.
> 
> Ask him for the AIDS stats in Asia and Africa sometime.
> 
> 
> -- Steve, he won't tell you cuz it kills his argument

what you're hinting at here is:
higher incidence = greater danger
a point with which i agree.
thus:
lower incidence = ???
                        jackie 'anakin' tokeman

do the math

fat kid: i've got some fudge hidden up my ass - you want some?
chaney: yeah right - i'm not falling for that one again.




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From: Frog2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 Jun 2001 02:50:46 -0000
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (was: chaney: retard)
Crossposted-To: alt.bonehead.steve-chaney,soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> aaron quoth:
> > U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> > 
> 
> Useless numbers 

do you dispute the center for disease control's statistics?
if so, why so?
                        jackie 'anakin' tokeman

fat kid: i've got some fudge hidden up my ass - you want some?
chaney: yeah right - i'm not falling for that one again.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:56:25 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Charlie Ebert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:13:53 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <iXxV6.26576$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Chad Myers wrote:
>>
>>Not really, you just don't like any organization which doesn't
>>kiss Linus' ass. The fact is, Linux really isn't getting adopted
>>in the market, it's still niche, it still has many problems
>>and people know this, no Linux company is even close to making
>>profit, including Red Hat, and most people consider Linux a little
>>toy unix-like OS for when they don't want to pay for Solaris or
>>HP-UX and yet need something similar for testing or whatnot.
>>
>>-c
>
>The real truth of the matter is that Linux is the #1 growth OS
>on the planet right now, with over double the growthrate in
>usage that MS has.  
>
>And MS is aware of this and worried for good reason.
>
>Linux will bury Windows and that time is comming now.

Never underestimate the naivete of the general public. :-)
After all, that's how MS got its near-monopoly in the first place.

[rest snipped]

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random sigh here
EAC code #191       44d:02h:06m actually running Linux.
                    [ ] Check here to always trust monopolistic software.

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From: Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT:  Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and  
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:01:44 GMT

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
> >
> > >"Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact that
> > >> here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his country,
> > >> but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer? Where's
> > >> the American freedom there?
> > >
> > >It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> > >of the liberal mindset.  That law was as recent
> > >as the 70's, IIRC.  The reason why laws like
> > >that one get put into place is because of
> > >a lack of patriotism, and pride.  People just
> > >apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> > >to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> > >word.
> >
> > The reason such laws exist in the US is the Republican Elizabeth Dole. As
> > transport secretary in the early 1980s, Mrs Dole hit on the idea of linking
> > federal highway grants to raising the legal drinking age to 21. Sadly, even
> > states that are supposed to take freedom particularly seriously, such as
> > New Hampshire (motto: Live free or die) decided to take the cash.
> >
> > This kind of thing is fuelled by two currents in American life: petty
> > puritanism and a pathological obsession with safety.
> 
> The problem is, kids are drinking and driving. The problem is getting
> worse, not better, with the laws that are in place.
>
> Compare this to the fine men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces
> who are highly trained individuals and understand the responsiblity
> of carrying a firearm.

What does that have to do with freedom?
 
> The kids out there are drinking way to much as minors and getting
> into cars and driving and killing other innocent people, killing
> and destroying families.
> 
> There is a huge problem with drinking and driving and nearly all of
> it is because of minors.
> 
> There is a problem, don't downplay it. People had their freedom,
> and they blew the responsibility and continue to blow it. If you
> abuse your freedom and use it to kill other people, you shouldn't
> have that freedom any longer. < 21 year olds have proven themselves
> unworthy of the privilege of drinking at 18 yo. I realize that's
> not a very conservative viewpoint, but from a society perspective,
> freedom is one thing, but if your freedom involves others dying,
> then that's not freedom at all. Just like yelling "Fire!" in
> a crowded movie theatre. Your freedom adversely affects the freedom
> of others.

The under-21 laws don't work. They never have and they never will.
Punish the drunk driving... not the people drinking a few beers.

This is the type of hypocrisy that pisses me off about conservatives,
they screech and screech about freedom... but it's only their freedom
they're talking about. Remember when Bush called Dukakis a
"card-carrying member of the ACLU"?

So we all know that conservatives don't care about "freedom" anymore
than liberals.

-- 
- Brent

"General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
- Darth Vader

http://rotten168.home.att.net

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From: Frog2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 Jun 2001 02:57:01 -0000
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (was: chaney: retard)
Crossposted-To: alt.bonehead.steve-chaney,soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

drsquare wrote:
> aaron:
> >I don't have sex with men
> 
> How is that relevant?

two people go out and fuck. one of them fucks a person from a group where
the incidence of hiv infection is 15%. the other fucks a person from a
group where the incidence of hiv infection is 0.03%.
which of them faces the greater risk of contracting the hiv virus?
                        jackie 'anakin' tokeman

fat kid: i've got some fudge hidden up my ass - you want some?
chaney: yeah right - i'm not falling for that one again.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:58:49 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <E5RT6.62174$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Christopher L. Estep wrote:
>
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Said Quantum Leaper in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 27 May 2001
>> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>    [...]
>> >> I don't think any of the sock puppets have ever paid for W2K.  They get
>> >> it for free, and then babble on about how great it is.  Guffaw.
>> >>
>> >Sorry  turkey,  me and 5999 other people got Windows 2K for FREE from
>> >Microsoft...  The problem with Linux is it doesn't support my DVD,  and
>that
>> >makes it unusable to me...
>>
>> Nice catch; you almost ended up making the entirely UNLIMITED free
>> access to Linux (something W2K becomes a pitiful alternative when
>> considering) too obvious.  The use of DVD support was slick.
>>
>> Ultimately, I think DVD support on a PC is really pretty stupid.
>> Computers SUCK as DVD players, and CD-ROM is still the de facto
>> standard.  If you've got money to burn on stupid toys, it might be worth
>> it.  But, only if you got the W2K for free, obviously.
>>
>
>Have you *ever* used a computer as a DVD player?
>
>You emphatically state computers suck as DVD players...have you ever used
>one?
>
>Or are you so *scared* of the Big Bad Bill that you refuse to touch any
>computer with a DVD-ROM drive (most of which are running some version of
>Windows)?
>
>CD-ROM is the de-facto standard for DATA because the DVD Recording Forum got
>into a needless pissing contest over format standards.
>(The same thing actually slowed down the introduction of the affordable
>CD-RW drive.).
>
>If it weren't for that, even the CD-RW drive manufacturers admit that *any*
>of the competing DVD recording formats (DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-R+W, DVD-RW)
>could kill CD-R *or* CD-RW on a cost/megabyte of stoage basis alone.
>However, the pissing contest over storage formats (egged on by the Motion
>Picture Association of America's concern over copying of DVD-sourced
>material) has kept recordable DVD in the professional/studio marketplace for
>right now.
>
>(The *same* hting happened with CD-R and CD-RW technology in the early
>1990's.  A pissing contest over formatting standards for CD-R media, along
>with the concerns of the Recording Industry Association of America over
>music CD cloning, kept CD recording out of consumer hands for *five years*
>after the first professional CD-R drives were introduced.)
>
>Also, merely enabling CD-R/RW support in Linux requires making changes to
>your kernel.  I know of *no* distribrution that enables SCSI emulation
>(which all Linux CD-R/RW programs require) by default.  Now here comes
>Microsoft (and Roxio) with *on-by-default* CD-R/RW (and DVD-RAM) support in
>Windows XP.  You can hook your device up any way that it supports;
>ATAPI/IDE, SCSI of several flavors, USB, FireWire, even parallel port!  Even
>easier, you can simply *drag and drop* from a source drive to your blank
>disk (or even drag-and-drop in advance and do the actual burn at your
>leisure).
>
>Microsoft did *not* claim to have the only operating system that supports
>CD-R/RW.  However, Windows XP *is* the *only* operating system to have
>*genuinely usable from day one* CD-R/RW (and DVD-RAM) support.
>
>Also, here's a cold hard fact: DVD drives for computers *still* cost less
>than standalone DVD players for the home.  (DVD players for the home *still*
>cost above $200 US, while those for computers are about half that.)
>
>Christopher L. Estep
>
>
>
>

Sony playstation PS2 costs less than that, and plays to a TV screen 
properly.  Cold hard fact.  And you can play games on it (hey, just
like XP, only *much* cheaper).

Linux has DVD support for several drives, details are in the HOWTO. 
This has been available since before XP had a day one. 

XP - there must be mileage there.  For the user, it's eXtra Pricey,
for Microsoft it's eXtra Profits, as a server, eXtra Pathetic, as
a serious desktop, well, it's not, it's really an eXtreme Playtoy.
For all except Microsoft, an unpleasant eXPerience. 

Anyone help here, or has it all been done before?

-- 
Mark Kent

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Subject: Re: Redhat video problems.
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:03:21 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, flatfish+++ wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:33:51 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>
>>And installing X is SO difficult. Never mind that I managed to install
>>it manually from scratch, having never used, never mind installed
>>linux at all before.
>
>Installing X is easy.
>Configuring it easy, when it works.
>In this case it doesn't work.
>
>>>Hitting those keys when all that is displayed is a bright white screen
>>>does nothing.
>>
>>You must be going wrong somewhere. When I launch X it's that grey
>>knobbled background thing.
>
>I'm simply selecting the exact same monitor/refresh rate and mode I
>did with Redhat and while it works with RedHat is doesn't with the
>others.
>
>So?

So why not use RedHat?

>flatfish+++
>"Why do they call it a flatfish?"


-- 
Mark Kent

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From: Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and  
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:06:18 GMT

"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> 
> > Considering that the USA is globalizing the entire world I would
> > say that there is an American or two who realizes the world beyond
> > the US shores.
> 
> Europe has told you to piss off, New Zealand told you to piss off, and Asia
> told you to piss off. The only lackie that wants to bum the US is Australia,
> mind you, they have never had a train of original thought in their countries
> history. What ever the US did, Aussie was sure to follow.  The US had
> conscription, the Aussies did that too.

Asia told us to piss off? The trade deficit between us and Asia is huge.
As for New Zealand... who fucking cares?

Ah yes Matty boy, it seems you're just as jealous of the Aussies as you
are of us Yanks. Must suck to be you.

> > Are you really that ignorant to continue with that line of insult?
> 
> Should I use the interesting study that showed how pathetically, uneducated
> US youth are, in terms of the world outside the US?
> 
> Matthew Gardiner

Hey, we're not perfect. Nobody's perfect, dude. Just don't bash the US
mindlessly without dealing with your own nation's inadequacies.
 
> --
> I am the blue screen of death
> nobody hears your scream's
> 
> Sepo is a cockney term for yank,
> however, in New Zealand and Australia
> a yank is a wank, well, same thing ;)
> 
> For AOL and earthlink lusers asking stupid questions:
> Seek and ye shall find


-- 
- Brent

"General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
- Darth Vader

http://rotten168.home.att.net

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From: "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:05:26 +1200

>>U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
>>
>>EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
>>Men who have sex with men - 326,051
>>Injecting drug use - -
>>MALE 126,889 -
>>FEMALE 46,804 -
>>TOTAL - 173,693
>>Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
>>Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
>>MALE 4,663 -
>>FEMALE 248 -
>>TOTAL - 4,911
>>Heterosexual contact - -
>>MALE 23,361 -
>>FEMALE 43,128 -
>>TOTAL - 66,490
>>Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - -
>>MALE 4,784 -
>>FEMALE 3,598 -
>>TOTAL - 8,382
>>Risk not reported or identified - -
>>MALE 41,037 -
>>FEMALE 15,533 -
>>TOTAL - 56,572
>>
>> - center for disease control, 1999
>>
>>
> 
> Can you quote some recent figures?
> 
http://www.who.int/emc/diseases/hiv/


I've had a look through it, and it dismisses alot of the 
psuedo-generalisation facts Aaron tries to use to push his agenda on 
other people.

such as "Over 95% of all cases and 95% of AIDS deaths occur in the 
developing world, mostly among young adults and increasingly in women."

also:


http://www.unaids.org/epidemic_update/report/Epi_report.htm

is quite indepth, regarding AIDS/HIV in the developed and undeveloped 
countries.

Matthew Gardiner




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From: Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and 
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:09:15 GMT

"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> 
> YATY  = Yet Another Typical Yank
> 
> You have now been kill filed.
> 
> Matthew Gardiner

I've noticed that US-bashers generally announce killfiling when they
have their asses handed to them.

Personally I usually don't announce a plonk and find it odd that people
do. The people in my killfile go in without their knowledge... just
because they're usually not worth speaking too.

Don't worry Steve, in about a month Matty will be flaming you again...
because he just can't stand that you may be disagreeing with him and he
won't know it. I know these people.

-- 
- Brent

"General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
- Darth Vader

http://rotten168.home.att.net

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