Linux-Advocacy Digest #339, Volume #31            Mon, 8 Jan 01 17:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. (JM)
  Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ? (JM)
  Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ? (JM)
  Re: Windows fails again (JM)
  Re: Windows fails again (JM)
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. (JM)
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. (JM)
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. (JM)
  Re: You and Microsoft... (JM)
  Re: You and Microsoft... (JM)
  Re: KDE Hell (JM)
  Re: Microsoft releases Games console (Pete Goodwin)
  Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com (Glitch)
  Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ? ("Nigel Feltham")
  Re: Apache / Stronghold Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: You and Microsoft... (Pete Goodwin)
  Re: You and Microsoft...  (The Ghost In The Machine)
  Re: Microsoft releases Games console (Richard Thrippleton)
  Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. (*)
  Re: Linux now or Linux(TM) tomorrow ("Nigel Feltham")
  Re: Microsoft releases Games console ("Erik Funkenbusch")
  Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance ("Nigel Feltham")
  Re: Will politics kill the case or will justice prevail? ("Erik Funkenbusch")

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:33:54 +0000

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 15:10:27 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

>>>>I have an IBM PS/2 Model 85, with 128M of memory, a couple of SCSI disks,
>>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>an ethernet card, and an SVGA card. Disk and graphics card are original
>>>>IBM, ethernet is a 3COM, IIRC.

>>>Say no more.

>>So it's normal that Win98 won't properly reboot on original IBM hardware?
>>Did I mention that Linux doesn't seem to have this problem on the very
>>same machine?


>No.
>
>I am saying that you have a dinosaur of a machine that is rife with
>non-standard hardware, that was even non-standard when it was built.
>
>Run Linux on it and be happy.

Oh, sorry, I didn't realise Windows was only for the financially
elite.

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:33:57 +0000

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:10:14 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:

>> I need the JRE plugin, I've already downlaoded it. Can someone
>> suggest how to install these f*cking jre..xpi  files before
>> I buy an AK47 from the local supermarket ?

>You can get rifles at the supermarket?
>
>Where do you live?...I wanna live there, too.

Aaron's a mad gun nut, you see...

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:33:58 +0000

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:42:35 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

>> You can get rifles at the supermarket?
>>
>> Where do you live?...I wanna live there, too.

>I saw a comedian once who said something like, "If everyone carried a gun,
>we'd all be a whole lot more polite. I'm not saying things would be better,
>but we'd all be a whole lot more polite."
>
>So maybe you don't want to live there.

That'd be Aaron's ideal world.

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows fails again
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:33:59 +0000

On 7 Jan 2001 18:25:09 -0800, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)) wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:04:53 +0000, JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>If anyone was wondering why yesterdays posts came later than usual,
>>it's because Windows had to be re-installed AGAIN, thus making me stay
>>up till 6am setting it all up again.

>I'm sure all zero people who check your headers to see when you posted
>were worried sick wondering why your posts were late yesterday.

But today you might find they're even earlier?

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows fails again
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:34:00 +0000

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 02:43:22 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)) wrote:

>>>If anyone was wondering why yesterdays posts came later than usual,
>>>it's because Windows had to be re-installed AGAIN, thus making me stay
>>>up till 6am setting it all up again.

>>I'm sure all zero people who check your headers to see when you posted
>>were worried sick wondering why your posts were late yesterday.

>Well let's see how long it takes the stupid communist to find

I take it that you are not fond of communism? Well, what would you
prefer? Capitalism? HAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!!!

>my reply's to his postings now that WINDOWS is back up for him.

Ah, Windows, what a fine example of capitalism's great acheivements.

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:34:01 +0000

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 02:37:13 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 (T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>Said JM in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun, 07 Jan 2001 18:20:00 +0000; 
>>On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:44:32 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> (T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>
>>>>>But..you see, this is a free country.  Sellers can use whatever
>>>>>measurement system they like.  And if it appeals to purchasers,
>>>>>great.  If it doesn't appeal to consumers, so be it.
>>
>>>>However, thanks to European dictatorship, it's illegal to sell in
>>>>metric.

>>>Huh, what?

>>In Britain it's illegal to sell in imperial units.

>I thought that's what you meant.

So why did you ask?

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:34:03 +0000

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:35:47 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>JM wrote:

>> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:44:32 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>>  (T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>> 
>> >>>But..you see, this is a free country.  Sellers can use whatever
>> >>>measurement system they like.  And if it appeals to purchasers,
>> >>>great.  If it doesn't appeal to consumers, so be it.
>> 
>> >>However, thanks to European dictatorship, it's illegal to sell in
>> >>metric.
>> 
>> >Huh, what?
>> 
>> In Britain it's illegal to sell in imperial units.
>
>There is no tyrant worse than the one who has convinced himself that
>his schemes are "for your own good"...whereas the tyrant who seeks to
>torture for the sake of cruelty may eventually find satisfaction at
>some level of your pain....the tyrant who is trying to help you has
>no qualms with taking the torture to new heights...after all, "it's 
>for your own good."

In this case it's the GREAT EUROPEAN TYRANT.

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:34:06 +0000

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:29:58 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 (Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>> > > You can't install 99% of the Windows programs using a command line
>> > > because they require GDI interaction.

>> > You can install just about all of the Microsoft apps/server apps
>from
>> > the command line with an answer or ini file.  If other vendors
>choose
>> > not to make the command line option available, that's their problem.
>> > The mechanisms are there, just that many don't use them...

>> Try installing a package via telnet this way some time and see how it
>> works to answer questions you can't see.

>Read the post again.  You can install just about all the Microsoft apps
>from the command line, without requiring GUI input.

Yes, you can. Just type it in and away you go. In fact, I'll try right
now:

g:\>setup.exe

This program requires MS Windows.

g:\>bugger

Bad command or file name

g:\>c:\windows\win

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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You and Microsoft...
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:34:07 +0000

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:57:36 +0000, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 (Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>> You will never see a Microsoft Windows Compiler installed
>> in your Windows product by default.

>True, you need to buy one.

Ahah, more $$$ for microsoft....

>> You will never be able to install Microsoft Windows via the
>> internet.

>But you need a machine on the internet to install it in the first place!

On Linux you can boot off a floppy on a bare system and download it
all.

>> You will never find a version of Microsoft Windows which addressed
>> all broken code.

>I've yet to see a Linux that can handle all my hardware.

How does that relate to broken code?

>> You will never find a version of Microsoft Windows which can
>> achieve an uptime of over a week.

>That's why a web server was up for over a month.

I think that was more of a exaggeration/generalisation.



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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You and Microsoft...
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:34:08 +0000

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 02:11:02 -0600, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>> You will never be able to install Microsoft Windows on a new
>> computer without having to go thru 3 reboots.

>You'll never be able to install Linux (or any other OS) without at least 2
>reboots.  Reboot 1 to boot from floppy or CD to start the installation
>process,

Not if you boot as soon as you switch it on.

>and reboot 2 to load the newly installed kernel with new
>configuration.

And again whenever you install some drivers?

>> You will never see a Microsoft Windows Compiler installed
>> in your Windows product by default.

>That's because there is no need for the vast majority of people.  If there
>was a need, you'd see one.

Lots of people need word processors and spread sheet programs. Do they
come included with Windows?

>> You will never see a Microsoft Windows Web Server installed
>> in your Windows product by default.

>Why would you want to?  Just click the option in the setup to install the
>web server.  Big deal.

Yes, you get the amazing personal web server which even if you select
to install, whenever you want to run it it still asks to be
installed?!?!

>> You will never be able to install Microsoft Windows via the
>> internet.

>You can already.

How?

>> You will never find a version of Microsoft Windows which can
>> achieve an uptime of over a week.

>Now this is a flat out lie.  Hell, Windows 98 can stay up for weeks at a
>time.

As long as you maintain it to fuck and don't run any programs.



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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:34:11 +0000

On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 15:30:15 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 03:35:45 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:

>>KDE, KDE, KDE.  Its all I hear about any more.  Why do I hear so much
>>about KDE?

>1. It is the default Window manager for some distributions.
>2. It is bloated, dis-organized, slow and full of bugs.

Could you do better?

>Flatfish
>Why do they call it a flatfish?

Because her chest is flat and her mother's cunt smells of fish?

>Remove the ++++ to reply.


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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft releases Games console
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:36:17 +0000

Nigel Feltham wrote:

> >Where's the Linux games console? Has anyone invented one yet? Linux is
> >quite capable of it - so why not? Why is it not even a starter?
> 
> Try www.indrema.com for a linux console.

I missed that one (and boy, do I have egg on my face). Must be all the 
Microsoft hype I keep hearing.

Ahah, here it is:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/10818.html

> Also, if windows is so good at Video applications then why is there no
> windows
> based video recorder system like the linux based TIVO device
> ( http://www.tivo.com/what/how2.html - it runs Linux on a PowerPC chip).

Probably for the same reason I thought Linux was not on consoles. No one 
interested in developing the market.

Have you tried TiVo? I tried it for three days before I took it back. 
Problems with picture quality (pulsing colours) and sound (sometimes 
distorted). Nothing to do with Linux, but, not a good start.

In any case, my Cable Digital is not currently supported by UK TiVo.

> There
> is also no reason why this TIVO code cannot be ported to intel to build a
> combined
> Indrema games console and TIVO video recorder - how would MS compete with
> this.

By buying the company and letting it die? 8)

-- 
Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:41:13 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com

Ebay makes money, but I don't know how much.

Peter Hayes wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 22:50:04 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > The problem with most e-commerce ventures was that the looked at the
> > computer as a panacea, and never really built a solid business plan.
> >
> > Amazon.com is right on the edge...if they can get their S&H costs
> > down, they will make it.
> 
> I thought Amazon.com had turned a tidy profit over the last three months.
> One of the few profit making dot-coms, if perhaps the only one.
> 
> Peter

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From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ?
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:35:33 -0000

>> Netscape isn't beta, nor is Konqueror
>
>Netscape: no
>Mozilla: yes
>


Netscape 4.x : no
Netscape 6.0: Yes (based on mozilla).





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Apache / Stronghold Question
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:29:54 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Randall Woodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone here know how to create a custom 401 error page
> (unauthorized access)  I've been reading through the documentation all
> day and can't seem to find an answer.  Any help you could offer would
> be appreciated.

Have a look at your config file.  Basically, you need to add ( or
uncomment ) a line like so:

ErrorDocument 401 "You forgot to say the magic word"

to point to a url or a script simply

ErrorDocument 401 /error.html
ErrorDocument 401 /cgi-bin/error.cgi


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You and Microsoft...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:46:00 +0000

Nigel Feltham wrote:

> >> You will never be able to install Microsoft Windows via the
> >> internet.
> >
> >But you need a machine on the internet to install it in the first place!
> 
> You mean you cannot make a windows bootable disk to connect to the
> internet and start the installer then - this is possible under linux (some
> distro's still allow this - mandrake can install from an ftp site but may
> need the CD put in your own ftp server as I am not sure if their server
> has all files from the CD).

Not as far as I know. The bootable disks supplied with CD's (if they are 
even supplied at all) are just MSDOS. I don't think anything on the Windows 
CD's allows this either.

However, it is possible to get a network stack up on MSDOS, though I 
haven't seen a TCP/IP one (that doesn't mean there aren't any).

Erik hasn't responded with how this is possible yet.

> >Closed source != security problems
> 
> How can you tell without access to the source - do you trust microsoft
> code to be secure when a hacker managed to stay on their own network
> for 6 months before being spotted?

Perhaps I should have said: "Closed source does not necessarily equal 
security problems".

As for Microsoft's code, they seem to be going through what Digital went 
through several years ago. By default, everything was wide open on OpenVMS 
- the system, field and maintenance passwords were always the same.

One day, our Easynet got broken into by the Dutch computer club CHAOS. It 
left a witty message and broadcasted passwords back to one machine. Luckily 
it didn't get into any machines I looked after as I'd already changed the 
passwords.

After that, OpenVMS changed the defaults and we started running a security 
checking application that we had to keep running as it sent tokens back to 
security to make sure we were secure.

> >> You will never find a version of Microsoft Windows which can
> >> achieve an uptime of over a week.
> >
> >That's why a web server was up for over a month.
> 
> That is due to clustering not individual PC uptime - you can easily
> keep a website up permanently on machines with 1 day uptime if
> you can afford a couple of hundred machines. See Netcraft uptime
> ratings and you will notice that MS based networks lose individual
> IP addresses more often than sites based on any other server.

Huh? The web server I was referring to was at work. It is _one_ machine, 
not a cluster, and it was running Personal Web Services. It ran for about 
two months before it got rebooted (I know the clock resets after a month, 
but the web server has its own uptime counter).

-- 
Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: You and Microsoft... 
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:44:51 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Charlie Ebert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Mon, 08 Jan 2001 03:15:12 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>You will never be able to install Microsoft Windows on a new
>computer without having to go thru 3 reboots.

Install?  What install?  All new computers will have
Microsoft Windows Whistler (Personal Edition) installed
on them and everything will be beautifully automatic -- until
you actually want to *do* something, like install a new
sound card or a freeware operating system... :-)

>
>You will never be able to buy a copy of Microsoft Windows
>with a manual over 100 pages in length.
>
>You will never be able to develope a net applicance using
>Microsoft Windows.

Nope, that's Microsoft's perogative. :-)

>
>You will never see a Microsoft Windows Compiler installed
>in your Windows product by default.
>
>You will never see a Microsoft Windows Web Server installed
>in your Windows product by default.
>
>You will never be able to install Microsoft Windows via the
>internet.
>
>If you run Microsoft Windows you will be using a closed source
>system and this means you will always have security problems.
>
>You will never find a version of Microsoft Windows which addressed
>all broken code.
>
>You will never find a version of Microsoft Windows which can
>achieve an uptime of over a week.
>

This is debatable; a recent benchmark suggests that NT can run
an average of 6 weeks.

Of course, Linux didn't go down for the entire length of the
benchmark -- about 1 year.

I'm not sure what this proves, admittedly; benchmarks are, well,
benchmarks -- real world data is far more interesting, but also
suggests Linux is more reliable.  (But NT's uptime can be measured
to the millisecon; Linux's resolution is only to the centi.)

>You will always be pissed running Microsoft Windows.
>

On that, we can definitely agree.  Just this morning we were trying
to find the NT equivalent of 'find . -newer somefile -print'....

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
                    up 96 days, 22:36, running Linux.

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From: Richard Thrippleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft releases Games console
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:58:14 +0000

Pete Goodwin wrote:

> Linux kernel 2.4 released
>
> Microsoft releases Games console
>
> The Register: And so Xbox is 'launched'
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/15885.html
>
> Where's the Linux games console? Has anyone invented one yet? Linux is
> quite capable of it - so why not? Why is it not even a starter?

    Hmmm. Linux might be good at and suited for a lot of things, but I
can't see it being suitable for a games console. Software for games
consoles doesn't have to peacefully co-exist with lots of other
processes, so you can get the best results through just about every hack
a coder can think of. Writing to the I/O ports directly, rather than
going through some uniform abstracted driver system for example. And
memory protection is just pointless for obvious reasons. Ditto for smooth
multitasking. I've rarely seen a games console crash, but we've seen the
end of that; "the Xbox is run on cut-down Windows code". Of course, it's
perfectly normal for games consoles to crash and bluescreen, you've got
to expect it. Please note that was just an excerpt from public opinion in
several years time. At the moment though, it's just normal for computers
to crash, because Windows crashes all the time (note that Joe Public
cannot tell the difference between Windows and computers).

Richard


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From: * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:48:45 GMT

JM wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 18:30:12 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  (* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >> Linux is like a McIntosh sound system; unless you actually understand what
> >> you're listening to, you wont see what all the hooplah is about.  There
> >> are no useless bells and whistles unless you add someone elses peripherals;
> >> which are almost exclusively inferior to what is built into the system
> >> itself.
>
> >so what you are saying is that the linux kernal is brilliant. it's just the
> >interfaces and applications for linux that suck. except of course your analogy
> >fails on the fact that last time i check McIntosh speakers were not free. not
> >even close.
> >
> >anyway, a computer platform is not merely the theoretical core it is based on.
> >it is a sum of all it's parts.
>
> If you check the name of the group you'll see it's called
> comp.os.LINUX.advocacy,

really???? gee.. from where i'm standing it says alt.linux.SUX

> and I read somewhere that Linux only refers to
> the kernel

well then it must be true!!!!

excessive punctuation for addressing the excessively stupid -kK


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From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux now or Linux(TM) tomorrow
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:49:45 -0000

>It is either MS is brilliant, or the rest of the software industry
>is so stupid.
>


So this has nothing to do with the way they rigged their oem agreements
so that PC companies had to pay licence fees on every PC they sell so
if they wanted to sell other operating systems as an alternative they had
to pay fees on both the OS supplied and the MS os they supply with the
other machines they sell.  It was financial blackmail which forced MS
onto every desktop PC not quality - even in the dos days DR-DOS was
far superior to ms-dos but then windows betas were released containing
DR-DOS detection code to display fake errors when run on non-ms versions
of dos. Then they illegally tied windows and ms-dos (msdos 7 was released
for beta as a standalone product until they decided DR-Dos had to be killed
off).





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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft releases Games console
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:04:05 -0600

"Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:93d9p6$9q249$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Also, if windows is so good at Video applications then why is there no
> windows
> based video recorder system like the linux based TIVO device

There is.

http://www.ultimatetv.com/

> ( http://www.tivo.com/what/how2.html - it runs Linux on a PowerPC chip).
> There
> is also no reason why this TIVO code cannot be ported to intel to build a
> combined
> Indrema games console and TIVO video recorder - how would MS compete with
> this.

I thought the XBox was going to include UltimateTV, but maybe it's the other
way around.  A future UltimateTV will include the XBox...





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From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:58:11 -0000

>Wow! 32 "computer chips" at once! Is that like counting the CPU, memory
HUB,
>BIOS, hard drive controller, sound controller, etc? A whole 32 chips! woo
>hoo!


Thats 32 CPU chips at once.

>far larger individual files, has a journeling file system and can support


Linux has support for at least 2 choices of journaling filesystem (reiser or
ext3 ) and has built-in software driven RAID.

>much more physical as well as virtual memory.

What about using whole partitions as virtual memory without a filesystem
getting in the way - linux has done this since version 1.x over 6 years ago
(up to 128mb per partition with virtually unlimited number of partitions).


>isn't even out of development yet ... big deal? Do you really think itanium
>will ship before it runs Windows? (p.s., there is a beta of Windows 2001
>that will run Itanium, butthead)
>


When is MS starting development for the 64-bit AMD chip then - linux
development
started at least a month ago. Why shouldn't the itanium ship before a
compatible
version of windows - why should Intel wait for MS to be ready?




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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Will politics kill the case or will justice prevail?
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:06:32 -0600

"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:a3o66.161894$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The Register: MS anti-trust appeal looms
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/15891.html
>
> This case appears to just run and run.
>
> Why is it taking so long for the US Courts to come to any conclusion in
> this case? I mean, Microsoft have been found guilty of being a monopoly,
> yet they're happily continuing as before. So far there's no teeth to this
> case.

Appeals take time.  The Appeals court has to sift through mounds and mounds
of evidence before even the first words are uttered in argument.




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    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

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